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Hot take timeeeee

Selling a record for $222 is a rip-off. I don't care if the person selling it considers it "art." All music is "art", that excuse is meaningless. This guy could be the best rapper in the world and these shitty antics would make me not care at all, in my eyes selling your music for exorbant price tags like this doesn't make you a genius, it just makes you a con artist. But then again, if people will readily open their wallets and spend over $200 on less than half an hour of music, I guess it only makes sense to take advantage of it and pass it off as "selling art."

(Love you @Jonathan Y)
 
gaporter said:
Hot take timeeeee

Selling a record for $222 is a rip-off. I don't care if the person selling it considers it "art." All music is "art", that excuse is meaningless. This guy could be the best rapper in the world and these shitty antics would make me not care at all, in my eyes selling your music for exorbant price tags like this doesn't make you a genius, it just makes you a con artist. But then again, if people will readily open their wallets and spend over $200 on less than half an hour of music, I guess it only makes sense to take advantage of it and pass it off as "selling art."

(Love you @Jonathan Y)
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Like who is this music for? This isn’t for the kids (unless they are rich) This isn’t for Joe Minimum Wage living check to check. Why should I need a trust fund to listen to someone’s music? Obviously exaggerating a bit.. but who is the target audience?
 
As somebody who has purchased his share of Mach wax, I do not like how he prices his product nor do I buy into his past comments about how he prices it that way to attract people that really want to engage with his art.

Is it some sucker shit? I don’t know, maybe, but for me at least, as long as my family is good, savings and emergency funds are all good, I spend my discretionary income on some stupid shit occasionally but if I think it’s dope, I am good with it.
 
gaporter said:
Hot take timeeeee

Selling a record for $222 is a rip-off. I don't care if the person selling it considers it "art." All music is "art", that excuse is meaningless. This guy could be the best rapper in the world and these shitty antics would make me not care at all, in my eyes selling your music for exorbant price tags like this doesn't make you a genius, it just makes you a con artist. But then again, if people will readily open their wallets and spend over $200 on less than half an hour of music, I guess it only makes sense to take advantage of it and pass it off as "selling art."

(Love you @Jonathan Y)
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Its just the result of capitalism. He's doing what designer clothes companies have been doing forever.

dirty hands said:
Like who is this music for? This isn’t for the kids (unless they are rich) This isn’t for Joe Minimum Wage living check to check. Why should I need a trust fund to listen to someone’s music? Obviously exaggerating a bit.. but who is the target audience?
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It's a status symbol for people with too much money to show other people they have too much money. Unfortunately most of the people that really love his music suffer because of it.
 
Id be pretty happy if daupe offered an expensive version of something.
Might out price of some of these fucking bots so i can not walk away empty handed lol
 
Believer101 said:
Id be pretty happy if daupe offered an expensive version of something.
Might out price of some of these fucking bots so i can not walk away empty handed lol
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That is one of the most shortsighted takes I've seen in a while. You want a more expensive version of something, so that flipper bots don't buy these up and you have to spend more on it on the secondary market?
 
gaporter said:
Hot take timeeeee

Selling a record for $222 is a rip-off. I don't care if the person selling it considers it "art." All music is "art", that excuse is meaningless. This guy could be the best rapper in the world and these shitty antics would make me not care at all, in my eyes selling your music for exorbant price tags like this doesn't make you a genius, it just makes you a con artist. But then again, if people will readily open their wallets and spend over $200 on less than half an hour of music, I guess it only makes sense to take advantage of it and pass it off as "selling art."

(Love you @Jonathan Y)
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All good!!! Some people pay 100s to 1000s for rare sneakers, hand bags, etc. that depreciate after they are used!! I have spent almost 200 bucks on a fancy dinner for me and Caitlin then forget we went there within a month!

I've paid well over 300$ for a painting from a no named artist that turned out to be a great buy once the artist got recognized locally. Not that I would look to sell it or any rare records I own, but much like any vinyl I have purchased from Frank, Mach, Griselda, etc these things appreciate in value even after many uses.

As much as I talk stocks and how I throw money into there, I can't use stocks and enjoy them, I buy and they sit until they gain.

I buy Blonde, I spin Blonde weekly for over 52 weeks then I sell Blonde for 300% profit because I no longer spin it as much and obviously some guy in Europe wanted it way more than myself. I grabbed a bootleg Blonde for 35 last week and love it!

That is the methods to my "madness" I used to blow money on parties and bullshit, now I buy rekkids
 
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dirty hands said:
Like who is this music for? This isn’t for the kids (unless they are rich) This isn’t for Joe Minimum Wage living check to check. Why should I need a trust fund to listen to someone’s music? Obviously exaggerating a bit.. but who is the target audience?
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I'm worried my initial message might come off as judgmental to those who buy the records, and that's not really how I mean it. There's people who have the money to buy them and if that's how they choose to use their money, that's their business. I won't judge @Jonathan Y or @wingclipper because I've overspent on records before as well, and it would be hypocritical for me to try to act like I'm in a higher position and look down on them for it. That's not what this is about. I think for me it has more to do with the fact they shouldn't have to shill out hundreds of dollars over a record in the first place. I don't like the idea of people getting the idea this is commonplace or that this is how selling records should be. In a way I suppose it is the eventual outcome of the vinyl boom and the gradual overpricing of records in general. I just have a large amount of hostility towards this enforced obscurity, FOMO culture that has a grip on the vinyl market right now, it's a lot of the same gripes I have with the way VMP works. It just feels like swindling people out of their money. But again, it's not a trick, people willingly buy these things, which I dislike just because it sends the message that no price is too ridiculous and there's no incentive for anything to change, you can keep selling 20-minute albums for hundreds of dollars and people will praise you for it. It just feels so uncool to me.
 
Dead C said:
That is one of the most shortsighted takes I've seen in a while. You want a more expensive version of something, so that flipper bots don't buy these up and you have to spend more on it on the secondary market?
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If it lets me and other fans actually get a copy then I am all for it. Id rather spend 100$ on a special drop and actually get one then spend 350$ on ebay for something less fancy.. It just really bums me out missing out but maybe you right but i do still feel the sting of missing out on daupe tonight so im crazy atm
 
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