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Joe Mac said:
It’s not uncommon, especially if it’s an upward step. Obviously the team they’re leaving won’t want it to happen and there will need to be significant compensation paid.
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Ok. I saw where Rodgers might head to United after their manager gets sacked and I’m like wait, he already has a job. It’s a weird thing.
 
LiamGallagher’sBucketHat said:
Ok. I saw where Rodgers might head to United after their manager gets sacked and I’m like wait, he already has a job. It’s a weird thing.
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I suppose if you can sack a manager mid season you have to be able to appoint a new one then too. It’d only work the other way if there were fixed widows like with transfers. Although to be honest in the history of football transfer windows are a relatively new phenomenon. Until 1996 there were none and that year a deadline of 31st March came in. The current two window approach has only been in place since the early 00s.
 
Joe Mac said:
I suppose if you can sack a manager mid season you have to be able to appoint a new one then too. It’d only work the other way if there were fixed widows like with transfers. Although to be honest in the history of football transfer windows are a relatively new phenomenon. Until 1996 there were none and that year a deadline of 31st March came in. The current two window approach has only been in place since the early 00s.
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In American sports you can't even talk to the manager/coach or another team. Usually if you fire one mid season someone is promoted from the staff as an "interim coach".
 
dbarila said:
In American sports you can't even talk to the manager/coach or another team. Usually if you fire one mid season someone is promoted from the staff as an "interim coach".
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Football has always been an open market tbh, attempts to restrict that are pretty recent. European and American sports culture is pretty polar opposite on just about every level though, I think it’d be hard to sell that to clubs as a reform that they’d pass in an environment where relegation is a reality.
 
LiamGallagher’sBucketHat said:
Ok. I saw where Rodgers might head to United after their manager gets sacked and I’m like wait, he already has a job. It’s a weird thing.
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funnily enough, Rodgers was poached from Celtic to go to Leicester and he may get poached once again to go to United. Rodgers is a decent manager, sure, but I don't think he's the right fit for United.
 
wokeupnew said:
funnily enough, Rodgers was poached from Celtic to go to Leicester and he may get poached once again to go to United. Rodgers is a decent manager, sure, but I don't think he's the right fit for United.
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I’m unsure who is and is available tbh! I agree on Rodgers but Zidane who is the other one being pushed is not something I see as a fit either.
 
Joe Mac said:
Football has always been an open market tbh, attempts to restrict that are pretty recent. European and American sports culture is pretty polar opposite on just about every level though, I think it’d be hard to sell that to clubs as a reform that they’d pass in an environment where relegation is a reality.
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I always get a kick out if how American Football is like measuring inches and a precise time system. Soccer is like take they free kick from approximately that spot, we'll play about 3 extra minutes, maybe more of we feel the need.
 
Joe Mac said:
I’m unsure who is and is available tbh! I agree on Rodgers but Zidane who is the other one being pushed is not something I see as a fit either.
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You should probably go for Ten Hag but I don't see him leaving with how much he loves Ajax, just signed a new deal, and how much money Ajax would want for him mid-season. Zidane also happened to have one of the best squads in the world at Real Madrid. I'd be very interested to see what he can do with a lesser squad and a lot of players underperforming.
 
wokeupnew said:
You should probably go for Ten Hag but I don't see him leaving with how much he loves Ajax, just signed a new deal, and how much money Ajax would want for him mid-season. Zidane also happened to have one of the best squads in the world at Real Madrid. I'd be very interested to see what he can do with a lesser squad and a lot of players underperforming.
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I’m not sure I’d be entirely comfortable taking someone straight from the Dutch league and dumping them in the hottest seat in the most competitive league. I also kinda distrust this “hipster football” flavour of the month trend without some more behind it. Zidane is a player manager, he manages big egos because he knows what they want because he was and is that ego. I’m not sure if he had a football style or much coaching pedigree and I think we need leadership and coaching not just one or the other. Maybe PSG will get bored of Poch and fancy a new toy. That’d be what I’d be hoping for…
 
Joe Mac said:
I’m not sure I’d be entirely comfortable taking someone straight from the Dutch league and dumping them in the hottest seat in the most competitive league. I also kinda distrust this “hipster football” flavour of the month trend without some more behind it. Zidane is a player manager, he manages big egos because he knows what they want because he was and is that ego. I’m not sure if he had a football style or much coaching pedigree and I think we need leadership and coaching not just one or the other. Maybe PSG will get bored of Poch and fancy a new toy. That’d be what I’d be hoping for…
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If anything, Poch not winning the league last season, and the verdict is out on him right now this season, as to how he's going to fare at PSG. They're leading the league by 10 points but there's rumblings of the players unhappy. Poch failing at PSG would drop his stock. His playstyle suits United, but I'd worry about how he coaches defenses at Spurs and PSG. He seems to have trouble managing egos as seen with his time at PSG, how would that translate to Ronaldo and co.? He'd be in deep shit without Mbappe being one of the best players in the world right now. My point being is that his style suits you currently but I don't see anything changing like if you had gotten Conte or another rigid system manager. Poch is a pressing/possession manager. But United still have an unbalanced team and I can't see much changing. Ten Hag would be a gamble but I don't know who else you go for. Sometimes those gambles pay off. Won't happen though because I see Ajax flat out refusing.
 
wokeupnew said:
If anything, Poch not winning the league last season, and the verdict is out on him right now this season, as to how he's going to fare at PSG. They're leading the league by 10 points but there's rumblings of the players unhappy. Poch failing at PSG would drop his stock. His playstyle suits United, but I'd worry about how he coaches defenses at Spurs and PSG. He seems to have trouble managing egos as seen with his time at PSG, how would that translate to Ronaldo and co.? He'd be in deep shit without Mbappe being one of the best players in the world right now. My point being is that his style suits you currently but I don't see anything changing like if you had gotten Conte or another rigid system manager. Poch is a pressing/possession manager. But United still have an unbalanced team and I can't see much changing. Ten Hag would be a gamble but I don't know who else you go for. Sometimes those gambles pay off. Won't happen though because I see Ajax flat out refusing.
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I think managing egos at PSG as opposed to managing an ego or two at United is a different kettle of fish. You are basically talking about a Football Manager team of super egos that has proven unmanageable long term for a list of top managers. I think what the players need is coaching in a way to play. At the minute there is no system beyond sit deep and let the forwards win it with a moment of magic. It’s not working at both ends. If a manager does come in they need to impose a style and a system because now there isn’t one. My objection with Conte was never that, it was more his nature! Ajax to United is just too big a jump in terms of expectations, it could eat a manager without the experience of success or that type of club.
 
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