Kanye

nope, because its undeniable that kanye / or the folks responsible for or to him have capitalized off this. lets not get this too twisted. dudes sick. and he needs help. but with so many unknown and down trodden people that are much sicker or really need help; kanye has more than means to get the help - and so do the folks around him. whether its for profit or exposure i have zero idea why it hasnt happened yet - and thats a shame.

but still - kanye has a network of people and money and influence around him. hes like privatized specialized care at all times. and sometimes you just cant reach or help folks. kanye is just the posterboy at the moment due to his immense celebrity. and its super shameful that nobody around him is using this platform to raise money or awareness for such an important issue in this country (especially now) for mental health.

so yeah. my opinion. kanye needs to wait. hes not any more important than your uncle or some homeless guy on the street. im not dismissing him at all. im saying stop catering to the celebrity entitlement here and lets care for all the ones that dont have the means or support system. when the last time you stopped to talk to a homeless individual or give them a hot meal? for me it was three weeks ago as i went shopping in seattle chinatown. gave the dude a 20 and talked to him. you?

Melt Face Molly Drop said:
Would you consider someone of celebrity being featured in a news cycle “their turn”?

The fact remains that people everywhere can still get help for mental illness, but the dismissal of a prominent character on a platform of his size only furthers any public stigma that mental illness continues to possess.
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I have two siblings with Bipolar disorder, which inspired me to major in psychology and work the first couple years of my career in a psychiatric hospital (the same one they both went to). I'm obviously not an expert/professional in these matters by any stretch of the imagination, but I do have a decent amount of first hand experience.

Do I think Kanye deserves help more than anyone else with similar issues? Of course not. But in a lot of ways I think it is even more important for him to get help since he is such a public figure. Bipolar disorder can differ drastically in symptoms and severity from person to person, and it has led to it being misunderstood, stigmatized, or just disregarded as basic personality issues (though admittedly, these issues are not unique in mental health at all).

He very clearly needs help and someone in the public eye like him getting the help he needs and being successfully treated to the point these public manic breakdowns stop happening would be a wonderful example that this can be treated successfully. And it can be inspiring to individuals with Bipolar disorder, and they're support systems, that it's not just something they have to live with and symptoms can be properly managed with the right treatment.
 
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To me, it feels like allowing Kanye to publicly melt down, to devote the news cycle to what is the manifestation of deeper issues, is what's irresponsible for the stigmatization of mental illness. The way the media and public treat Kanye allows us all to continue a narrative of "See? That's what it looks like to be mentally ill." There's no focus on treatment, reflection, or recovery. The see-saw, the ups and downs, the refusal of treatment; these are all stereotypes of mental illness, and we get to absolve ourselves for staring because it's placed right in front of us by the media.

I have a sister who is bipolar; she's struggled most of her life since we were teenagers. My parents treated her behavior much like the press treats Kanye: a frustration nuisance who is choosing to "be this way." It was incredibly destructive for her, and had they taken her situation seriously rather than alienating her, she'd be in a much better place today.

I might agree that we can't "ignore" this, but somehow the binary has become either ignore him or rev up the media circus. There's no middle ground. Personally, I think maintaining focus on the current narrative is a whole lot more destructive than turning away.

Anyway, thanks for linking that article, Indy; it vocalizes a lot of what I'm trying to say here. Sorry you're not feeling heard, Benhawaii, but I feel you. I'll leave y'all with this choice bit:

But it would be equally disingenuous to pretend that West doesn’t wear his trauma and his pain and his diagnosis on his sleeve, or that it should have no bearing on how the media covers him. We urgently need a new public language that pulls all of these threads together — a language that explains but doesn’t excuse, a language that contextualizes but doesn’t absolve.
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I'm so tired of this bullshit. This isn't how you promote an album. If it is, I hate it. I just don't feel like bothering with Kanye anymore. It really feels like watching someone you care about just get worse and worse from afar. And his comments are filled to the brim with Qanon whackos and other conspiracy theorists who love Kanye and think he's on their side. He's doing so much more harm than good. It was good while it lasted but to me he's been ruining his legacy with all these shenanigans and at this point, I don't want music. I just wish he would get some help and stop doing this.
 
I just see he tweeted he's on the ballots of 10 states. I'm not completely sure how exactly the US election system works: could he (theoretically speaking) win the election if he is just let's say on the voting lists of half the country?

I just wonder if all this running for presidency stuff is complete nonsense, or if there's some scenario where he actually could win, at all?
 
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I just see he tweeted he's on the ballots of 10 states. I'm not completely sure how exactly the US election system works: could he (theoretically speaking) win the election if he is just let's say on the voting lists of half the country?

I just wonder if all this running for presidency stuff is complete nonsense, or if there's some scenario where he actually could win, at all?
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I don't trust anything Kanye tweets but even if he is on the ballot in those states, he's not going to win. I mean it's 2020 so never say never I guess, but I just don't think it's even feasible considering how late he came into the race
 
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