Kanye

Wait, hold on. Actually I am absolutely on board with you and agree with 100% of what you just said. It just sucks that we live in an age where the speaker gets forgiven for communicating in shorthand and the receiver has to do some pretty nuanced and sophisticated interpretation. This is, again, another parallel to Trumpism where he can barely put string together a coherent sentence, followed by weeks of analysis of what he "meant." Sometimes the intent is clear, but it's still mangled in the execution. Kanye might have meant what we think he meant, but he still said what he said while trying to express it.

I think you correctly identified the sentiment (although I'm not quite sure how to square it with his earlier statements that slavery is actually just a choice), but Ye's phrasing still puts that on Tubman and not on the system she was living and operating in. I stand by the opinion that it's a weird choice (or deficiency in his ability to communicate clearly) that in trying to describe the problem, he put it in words in a manner that puts Harriet Tubman on blast.

As for Cannon, all of the Black Israelite stuff is a pretty loaded topic and I have to confess that it gets pretty confusing for me sometimes. Please join me in the Wild 'n Out thread for more.
Well said.

All I'll add to this is that what Kanye is trying to say isn't profound and he keeps saying it in really stupid ways that are easy to interpret offensively. That getting in the way of a point that anyone who is remotely familiar with oppression of African-Americans already knows makes it frustrating to see hundreds of stans say, "you don't get it, you only read the headline," like he actually said something worth wading through his poor communication for.
 
But whereas Chappelle took that time to reflect, collect himself, and come back sharper than ever to make himself be understood, Kanye doesn't ever seem to progress past the breakdown stage of that journey.
Yea I was going to use Chappelle as a right way to expose the system for all it's flaws, but at the end of the day we're all human and don't do shit perfectly.

I don't want to compare the two because they are both greats in there own lanes. Kanye just needs to start using a journal to jot these thoughts. Read them to his wife, and say am I saying this right? Lol

The one thing I love about Kendrick Lamar when discussing big topics, you can see him thinking his sentence out before he says it/as he's saying it. Part of it has to do with an old stutter he had as a kid, but he's also said it's to make sure everything he said weighs a ton. Kanye worked on hundreds of songs with Kendrick allegedly. Took him on tour for Yeezus but apparently didn't pick up that skill in communication. Kanye said, no one man should have all that power, and then has since proceeded to try and gain as much power as humanly possible. Maybe we are inside of Kanye's living art exhibit and after all this he's gonna say...I told yall not to give one man all that power.

All seriousness tho. I just want DONDA. His mom was his centerpiece, and after her death, he seemed to fall off the deep end little by little. I want to see what he does in her namesake after all this time.
 
Joe Budden Podcast discussed Nick Cannon and got into alot of what we discussed today prior to Kanye's rant. This was their Saturday podcast they record on Fridays for Spotify but is uploaded to youtube today with video. It almost makes me wonder if Kanye got his rant based off what happened to Nick Cannon. Nick is an old old friend of the Kardashian clan. First hour they go in

 
Ok time for not fun, serious post time.

Y'all remember the YouTuber Etika? He was someone who, near the end of his life, was clearly mentally unstable and frequently exhibited signs of having manic episodes. He needed help but his audience egged him on and made jokes about his situation and didn't take anything he said seriously and only worsened his situation in the end. He eventually ended up taking his own life and several people used his suicide as an example of how mental health should be taken more seriously and those who need the help should get it while they still can and before the worst case scenario ends up happening.

I don't think I need to even say why this has sprung back into my mind as of late.
 
Kanye’s Twitter is something else tonight

I missed it. Apparently he deleted it but all I see is tweets of people saying they're worried.

Ok time for not fun, serious post time.

Y'all remember the YouTuber Etika? He was someone who, near the end of his life, was clearly mentally unstable and frequently exhibited signs of having manic episodes. He needed help but his audience egged him on and made jokes about his situation and didn't take anything he said seriously and only worsened his situation in the end. He eventually ended up taking his own life and several people used his suicide as an example of how mental health should be taken more seriously and those who need the help should get it while they still can and before the worst case scenario ends up happening.

I don't think I need to even say why this has sprung back into my mind as of late.
I saw someone say Kanye is on Britney Spears level right now. Also saw the Etika comparison. Hopefully he has a better week ahead
 
I missed it. Apparently he deleted it but all I see is tweets of people saying they're worried.


I saw someone say Kanye is on Britney Spears level right now. Also saw the Etika comparison. Hopefully he has a better week ahead

I'm also worried about him. What worries me most is how closely it is connected with family and kids. I also dislike people creating memes about this. @gaporter is very right with the comment.
 
This is the non Dre produced album correct ?
Is this “jik2” ? Or something else. I can’t keep up

This is 2016 all over again but more severe. Just like when an addict relapses it gets worse every time until rock bottom is hit. Hopefully he is at rock bottom this time. He's spiraling outta control just like he did during The Life of Pablo when he had to cancel the tour, go to rehab, and get put on meds. So Help Me God was the first title then Swish then eventually TLOP. It's like he is living in this Truman Show dichotomy, but he is actually a manic depressed schizophrenic with bipolar tendencies.

This Friday/weekend will be interesting I'm sure
 
What’s with Kanye and ppl wearing orange ? Have we cracked that code ?

Well, he has constantly preached death to privately owned prisons on numerous occasions. He has talked about 1 in 4 black men being locked up, and more recently how now it's gone to 1 in 3.

He also had this energy with the Confederate flag before he "made it his own" and did that whole display so me being the devil's advocate as always with Ye assumes this is that all.over again. Hes been VERY cyclical since his mom died. Its always around viting time 2008, 2010, 2012/13 cuz yeezus rollout was a whole ordeal for a year, 2016, 2018, and now 2020
 
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On one hand it's brutal that you can so freely abuse the political system in the US and just goes to show how diluted and farcical the office of the POTUS is becoming. Then again, on the other hand, that's probably the point.

I'm someone who loves Kanye's music but I'm also someone who walked out of a concert of his (it was the Yeezus tour when he was going on 10 min rants that were extremely offensive and illogical).

This emoji probably summarizes my overall feeling about this thing 🤷‍♂️ . Still looking forward to the album and hope it's good.
 
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