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Yeah, I really enjoyed Linoleum as well. Gaffigan is shaping into a solid actor!

It def. stays with you for awhile after viewing it much like another movie I just recently watched again for the first time in a long time in What Dreams May Come (minus the child actors in it who are two of the goofiest characters I've ever seen in a good movie).
 
I donā€™t know if itā€™s fair comparing the first three years of a decade (years which were hammered by the pandemic) against a complete decade, especially when (at least in my case) plenty of gems rise to the top over time, reappraisals occur, and indie/international movies which didnā€™t make a splash on release find a second life in streaming/video. 13 years ago Iā€™d have told you the 00s were a crap decade devoid of cultural impact, but things look a lot better with distance.
 
Sorry, just checked your profile and - you're a film editor? That's very cool. If I could start my life over, I'd probably have tried to get into editing or audio engineering.

Oh man that's outdated. I worked in editing departments (role varied depending on the content) from roughly 2012-2019.

I was good at it, but the hours of the industry (which went from 60 to 90 hours a week during the rise of streaming) caused an undiagnosed autoimmune disorder to go haywire. Specifically while I was on an FX project and angling towards an AE role.

After that I spent several years trying to make it work outside of the studio system (where the hours are still intense but self managed and take place in shorter bursts). Lots of behind the scenes footage for Apatow productions, a couple of indies, lots of branded content.

But eventually I realized the only way to fully stabilize my health was to leave the industry.

Now work in the natural foods industry. I miss being creative and the collaborative experience of filmmaking. But ya know what? Sometimes it's nice to work to live instead of living to work.
 
Oh man that's outdated. I worked in editing departments (role varied depending on the content) from roughly 2012-2019.

I was good at it, but the hours of the industry (which went from 60 to 90 hours a week during the rise of streaming) caused an undiagnosed autoimmune disorder to go haywire. Specifically while I was on an FX project and angling towards an AE role.

After that I spent several years trying to make it work outside of the studio system (where the hours are still intense but self managed and take place in shorter bursts). Lots of behind the scenes footage for Apatow productions, a couple of indies, lots of branded content.

But eventually I realized the only way to fully stabilize my health was to leave the industry.

Now work in the natural foods industry. I miss being creative and the collaborative experience of filmmaking. But ya know what? Sometimes it's nice to work to live instead of living to work.
I'm very sorry to hear that! But I'm glad you're now better able to enjoy the fruits of someone else's labor.
 
I donā€™t know if itā€™s fair comparing the first three years of a decade (years which were hammered by the pandemic) against a complete decade, especially when (at least in my case) plenty of gems rise to the top over time, reappraisals occur, and indie/international movies which didnā€™t make a splash on release find a second life in streaming/video. 13 years ago Iā€™d have told you the 00s were a crap decade devoid of cultural impact, but things look a lot better with distance.

Maybe. On the other hand, you have this quote from Greta's agent that dropped recently:

"Barber told me that Mattel had figured out how to ā€œengage with filmmakers in a friendly way.ā€ Gerwig, meanwhile, was looking to move beyond the small-scale dramas she was known for. ā€œGreta and I have been very consciously constructing a career,ā€ Barber explained. ā€œHer ambition is to be not the biggest woman director but a big studio director. And Barbie was a piece of I.P. that was resonant to her.ā€

ā€œIs it a great thing that our great creative actors and filmmakers live in a world where you can only take giant swings around consumer content and mass-produced products?ā€ he said. ā€œI donā€™t know. But it is the business. So, if thatā€™s what people will consume, then letā€™s make it more interesting, more complicated.ā€ He wondered aloud whether such directors as Hal Ashby and Sydney Pollack would be making movies with Mattel if they were alive today: ā€œItā€™s a super-interesting question. Itā€™s also an argument that weā€™ve lost already.ā€

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My friends often lament the fact that no real autuers have emerged from the millenial generation. In reality, they exist. Greta is case in point. However, they are shuffled into the world of IPs as soon as they drop a good indie and have years of their career wasted on unoriginal ideas.

Jeff Nichols is probably just outside of the millenial marker. But he has gone 7 years without a film in large part because he signed up to do A Quiet Place 2 and then balked. His new film The Bikeriders is finally gonna drop but has a very small budget. In the 00's he would have been working with 50m $ budgets as soon as Mud happened.

Another example is Sean Durkin... the director of Marcy Martha May Marlene. That film is, in my book, one of the best films of last decade. It launched Elizabeth Olson's career and should have done the same for Sean. Instead, he had project after project fall apart then made a micro budget film that was solid enough to get the ball rolling on the A24 wrestling film he is now making (which has a steller cast). 12 years after MMMM...

Or there are the countless directors who have gotten shuffled into making TV that makes it two seasons in and then gets canceled or isn't their project. Britt Marling, Lilli Amirpour, Jeremy Saulnier, Antonio Campos...

Bottom line-- as somebody who has always gravitated towards the Linklaters, QT's, PTA's, ext-- outside of a handful of exceptions (Villenue, Peele and Damien Chazelle), what new directors have emerged within the American system in the past 15 years that are being given the freedom to make original content with a real budget?
 
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Was also curious, as these guys are among my favorites, but looks like it may be this:

 
Maybe. On the other hand, you have this quote from Greta's agent that dropped recently:

"Barber told me that Mattel had figured out how to ā€œengage with filmmakers in a friendly way.ā€ Gerwig, meanwhile, was looking to move beyond the small-scale dramas she was known for. ā€œGreta and I have been very consciously constructing a career,ā€ Barber explained. ā€œHer ambition is to be not the biggest woman director but a big studio director. And Barbie was a piece of I.P. that was resonant to her.ā€

ā€œIs it a great thing that our great creative actors and filmmakers live in a world where you can only take giant swings around consumer content and mass-produced products?ā€ he said. ā€œI donā€™t know. But it is the business. So, if thatā€™s what people will consume, then letā€™s make it more interesting, more complicated.ā€ He wondered aloud whether such directors as Hal Ashby and Sydney Pollack would be making movies with Mattel if they were alive today: ā€œItā€™s a super-interesting question. Itā€™s also an argument that weā€™ve lost already.ā€

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My friends often lament the fact that no real autuers have emerged from the millenial generation. In reality, they exist. Greta is case in point. However, they are shuffled into the world of IPs as soon as they drop a good indie and have years of their career wasted on unoriginal ideas.

Jeff Nichols is probably just outside of the millenial marker. But he has gone 7 years without a film in large part because he signed up to do A Quiet Place 2 and then balked. His new film The Bikeriders is finally gonna drop but has a very small budget. In the 00's he would have been working with 50m $ budgets as soon as Mud happened.

Another example is Sean Durkin... the director of Marcy Martha May Marlene. That film is, in my book, one of the best films of last decade. It launched Elizabeth Olson's career and should have done the same for Sean. Instead, he had project after project fall apart then made a micro budget film that was solid enough to get the ball rolling on the A24 wrestling film he is now making (which has a steller cast). 12 years after MMMM...

Or there are the countless directors who have gotten shuffled into making TV that makes it two seasons in and then gets canceled or isn't their project. Britt Marling, Lilli Amirpour, Jeremy Saulnier, Antonio Campos...

Bottom line-- as somebody who has always gravitated towards the Linklaters, QT's, PTA's, ext-- outside of a handful of exceptions (Villenue, Peele and Damien Chazelle), what new directors have emerged within the American system in the past 15 years that are being given the freedom to make original content with a real budget?
Itā€™s hard to say since, as you point out, many of these people get sucked into television.

Iā€™m also a former film student and aspiring filmmaker; a big part of why I didnā€™t get further than internships in my early 20s was 1) long hours working ingloriously on projects Iā€™m not even excited about 2) even in the mid-00s, it seemed the auteur was a dying breed pushed out by commercial interests. I imagine if youā€™re anywhere near my age you grew up at a time where we had some of the most prominent and camera-ready celebrity filmmakers. While itā€™s a worthy dream, itā€™s kinda a myth, and the exception to a rule that shows more filmmakers with their heads to the ground, making small, quietly interesting things.

The second part is, if you look at it, a regular cycle; we had the 70s, then the 90s. But, even during they heyday of the studio system there were some auteurs, since we have the Hawkses and the Houstons to look up to. That said, I think if you expand your view to global cinema, our generation has a lot of dynamic and distinct cinematic voices. Also, thereā€™s recency bias: itā€™ll be a whole lot easier to look at the millenial classā€™s filmography in a decade or two, with the breadth and depth of their enduring work a lot clearer in contrast. I know heā€™s not millenial, but to use an example, Todd Field has made just three movies in 21 years, and itā€™s taken all those years and each film for him to become one of our more revered filmmakers. The industry today just doesnā€™t have space for a Spielberg to roll up and give us Jaws, Close Encounters, Raiders, and ET over the course of six short years.

When it comes to millennials specifically, thatā€™s kind of a generational issue: if you look across all the arts, people our age are struggling to make money on their creative work and to get it to break through to any measurable audience. Now, the optimistic side of me thinks as a generation weā€™re learning to do the art for the artā€™s sake (working to live, then playing guitar or painting because itā€™s fulfilling, not because itā€™ll yield fame or fortune). A part of me wonders if weā€™ll see a lot of ā€œsecond actā€ artists in our generation, people who chugged away at their art while gigging and hustling.
 
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