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As always, surprised at how good Seasons of Glass is though. Wish she had a better voice, she is an interesting songwriter/composer.
 
Then there are songs like Dog Town that clearly show why so many people dislike her music (beyond the fact that she's Yoko and must have broken up the clearly already growing apart Beatles)
 
read up just a little on the album now and will probably relisten knowing what I now know, that this was her first album after John's death. So much about it, including the cover makes more sense now. Curious as to why it is not streaming or in print, knowing that.
 
Lee Newman said:
Then there are songs like Dog Town that clearly show why so many people dislike her music (beyond the fact that she's Yoko and must have broken up the clearly already growing apart Beatles)
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[Insert gif of chuck berry getting wild eyed pissed at her tone deaf caterwauling]



She's actually wonderful. "Listen the snow is falling" is one of the most beautiful songs.

But that was not the time and place for.... whatever that was, and that she did it anyway shows her shitty timing and judgement (and inability to read a room).
 
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The title track from that album had a profound effect on 12-year-old me when I heard it on Much Music (Canadaland's MTV equivalent) back when it came out. What a song!
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I knew I knew that song and then I read the review, it and "Waiting for the Miracle" were on the Natural Born Killers Soundtrack which was actually a bit of exploration inspiration back when it came out. Reznor could do no wrong and he was like, here listen to Cohen and Patsy Cline and Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn....
 
Lee Newman said:
I knew I knew that song and then I read the review, it and "Waiting for the Miracle" were on the Natural Born Killers Soundtrack which was actually a bit of exploration inspiration back when it came out. Reznor could do no wrong and he was like, here listen to Cohen and Patsy Cline and Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn....
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Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture

...is an absolute beast of a line!

(and the crack and anal sex bit is the reason my Grade 12 English teacher wouldn't let us study this song during our poetry section when I suggested it because we were already doing other Cohen songs and poems. Dylan too.)
 
avecigrec said:
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture

...is an absolute beast of a line!

(and the crack and anal sex bit is the reason my Grade 12 English teacher wouldn't let us study this song during our poetry section when I suggested it because we were already doing other Cohen songs and poems. Dylan too.)
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Anal activity is generally not a good choice. poetry teacher or otherwise.
 
Lee Newman said:
Listening to Leonard Cohen's The Future. Who started this deep dark americana thing, was it Dylan or Cohen? Who else does it?
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between the two, I think Dylan comes first -- self titled is 62 -- and cohen's first record comes out in 67. Cohen's also more of a troubador and romantic in the early days in comparison to Dylan's folkie stuff. Whether it's fair to said either of them really "started" it is definitely a longer debate. Although I'm not a country fan, I think it's fair to lump some of the early country and western songs in as "dark americana". (aside, you may enjoy dylan's favorite cohen songs).

I would recommend 16 Horsepower (particularly "low estate"; they also do a fantastic cover of Cohen's "The Partissan"), Vic Chestnut, Bonnie 'Prince' Billy (especially "sings greatest palace music" and "i see a darkness"; "master & everyone" has always felt very cohen-y to me) and Jim White's "The Mysterious Tale Of How I Shouted Wrong-Eyed Jesus". This is some dude's list, and I don't know the others, but does mention those three so I think maybe worth investigating. Maybe add Tom Waits in there?

Also, I don't know if you'd consider it such, but it's at least tangentially related; Ani Difranco did an album with Utah Phillips (well, she did two, but I am specifically recommending the first one,) "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere". He's a folk singer / storyteller, and he sent her a bunch of tapes of his performances and she put music to it. There's a couple of instances of her doing wordless background harmonies but vocally Ani is largely absent on the album. If you only have time for one song, either "Holding On" or "Bridges", but IMO the whole album is worthwhile. (The second album, "Fellow workers", is more of a protest-y folksy thing and Ani is more vocally present. It's good but IMO not as good.)











Book of Angels

Vic Chesnutt - West Of Rome [Full Album] Reissued/Remastered Version.

Bridges
 
yukbon said:
between the two, I think Dylan comes first -- self titled is 62 -- and cohen's first record comes out in 67. Cohen's also more of a troubador and romantic in the early days in comparison to Dylan's folkie stuff. Whether it's fair to said either of them really "started" it is definitely a longer debate. Although I'm not a country fan, I think it's fair to lump some of the early country and western songs in as "dark americana". (aside, you may enjoy dylan's favorite cohen songs).

I would recommend 16 Horsepower (particularly "low estate"; they also do a fantastic cover of Cohen's "The Partissan"), Vic Chestnut, Bonnie 'Prince' Billy (especially "sings greatest palace music" and "i see a darkness"; "master & everyone" has always felt very cohen-y to me) and Jim White's "The Mysterious Tale Of How I Shouted Wrong-Eyed Jesus". This is some dude's list, and I don't know the others, but does mention those three so I think maybe worth investigating. Maybe add Tom Waits in there?

Also, I don't know if you'd consider it such, but it's at least tangentially related; Ani Difranco did an album with Utah Phillips (well, she did two, but I am specifically recommending the first one,) "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere". He's a folk singer / storyteller, and he sent her a bunch of tapes of his performances and she put music to it. There's a couple of instances of her doing wordless background harmonies but vocally Ani is largely absent on the album. If you only have time for one song, either "Holding On" or "Bridges", but IMO the whole album is worthwhile. (The second album, "Fellow workers", is more of a protest-y folksy thing and Ani is more vocally present. It's good but IMO not as good.)











Book of Angels

Vic Chesnutt - West Of Rome [Full Album] Reissued/Remastered Version.

Bridges
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I kind of meant that they were both doing the same sort of thing in the nineties.
 
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