Needles & Grooves AoTM /// Vol. 2 - August 2019 /// Khemmis - Hunted

Murfocakes said:
I am in the same group as you. I’m enjoying Khemmis and have preordered it but i’ll Never be a lover of growl vocals. It sounds like the growler is saying ‘POO-POO’ to my ears when he appears on the second track. His growling is much better on the third track where I can identify words. I’ve listened again and still hear ‘POO-POO’ which is pretty extreme. You don’t get Metallica singing about faceses. Unless Lou Reed is fronting them. It’s ironic that fans of growl metal vocals were so vocal in condemning Lou Reed’s vocals on Lulu as being hard to listen to.

I bought Khemmis on allyourmusic on eBay. They had the cheapest price to send to the UK and if you bought 3 albums you would get a further 15% off so I picked it up, John Lennon’s Plastic Ono Band (More screaming and raw vocals) and Ride The Lightning (which this album got me listening to again) for £45, which was nice.
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I just hope it is Khemmis as I have overspent like crazy this month, kicking @Joe Mac ’s butt in our Bob Dylan standoff. That Khemmis purchase could have got me Christmas In The Heart, (More abrasive growl vocals, only shouting about Santa rather than POO-POO)
 
Goatfish said:
Looking at the lyrics while listening to growls opened the door to me back when I was getting into more extreme vocals in the early 2000’s.

It is amazing how the filthiest, dirtiest, incomprehensible lyrics come out clear as day when you are following along with the lyric sheet.
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I don’t want to ruin the illusion he’a singing about POO-POO. That’s up there with my favourite modern metal lyric ‘My lifestyle is my deathstyle’. Take a bow, Kirk Hammett.
 
Goatfish said:
Looking at the lyrics while listening to growls opened the door to me back when I was getting into more extreme vocals in the early 2000’s.

It is amazing how the filthiest, dirtiest, incomprehensible lyrics come out clear as day when you are following along with the lyric sheet.
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I notice that you didn’t say he wasn’t singing POO-POO. After Black Metal comes Brown Metal
 
I am not normally a huge fan of deep growl vocals, but I enjoyed their inclusion on Khemmis. I viewed it as another form of instrumentation, and from that perspective, they really added some depth to the overall sound. The other instruments slowed down around then, so it felt like at that point, the emotions and mood expressed were going "down" and further than normal words could express. I dunno. That's just my take. Since they were relatively short-lived and surrounded by other, soaring vocals, such that they formed more a contrast, I was able to enjoy them more than normal Death Metal Band consistent-growl vocalizations. But that's just me!
 
bettim84 said:
Now I know why I'll never volunteer to do a N&G ROTM. I would never be able to top @Goatfish in the clues department!
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Go on and volunteer. It’s a blast. Monitoring the guesses is the harder month. I didn’t realise how much reading and organising @Skalap had last month.

Teeeee said:
And I have to try to top him or even come close to equalling him next month! :cautious:
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Don’t even try to. Just do your own thing and it will be great. This is the only vinyl club in town in my book. I’m honoured to be sandwiched between @Goatfish and @Skalap and have every faith your month will be awesome!
 
Murfocakes said:
I am in the same group as you. I’m enjoying Khemmis and have preordered it but i’ll Never be a lover of growl vocals. It sounds like the growler is saying ‘POO-POO’ to my ears when he appears on the second track. His growling is much better on the third track where I can identify words. I’ve listened again and still hear ‘POO-POO’ which is pretty extreme. You don’t get Metallica singing about faceses. Unless Lou Reed is fronting them. It’s ironic that fans of growl metal vocals were so vocal in condemning Lou Reed’s vocals on Lulu as being hard to listen to.

I bought Khemmis on allyourmusic on eBay. They had the cheapest price to send to the UK and if you bought 3 albums you would get a further 15% off so I picked it up, John Lennon’s Plastic Ono Band (More screaming and raw vocals) and Ride The Lightning (which this album got me listening to again) for £45, which was nice.
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Ha, I know what you mean, to me it just sounds like hooooooooo, hooooooooo, which is weird but not as dumb as poooooo, poooooo I suppose.

But, really it wasn't the growls I was talking about. The clean vocals have what seems to be a vocal style that I haven't run into anywhere outside of metal. I don't know what it is about it but it's kinda of a super clean, well annunciated, theatrical vocal style that I have a hard time with. Except for Bruce Dickinson for some strange reason, even though he is certainly more theatrical sounding than Khemmis. I dunno, I want to describe it as camp but I feel like that might be insulting to a metalhead when I don't mean it to be.

Dio definitely fits in that camp and is one of the reasons I don't love him as much as you do.

Metal is really out of my wheelhouse, with a few exceptions, and I've actually listened to the Khemmis and High on Fire albums several times because of this thread and I'm glad for that because working on expanding tastes is always good in my opinion.
 
dhodo said:
Ha, I know what you mean, to me it just sounds like hooooooooo, hooooooooo, which is weird but not as dumb as poooooo, poooooo I suppose.

But, really it wasn't the growls I was talking about. The clean vocals have what seems to be a vocal style that I haven't run into anywhere outside of metal. I don't know what it is about it but it's kinda of a super clean, well annunciated, theatrical vocal style that I have a hard time with. Except for Bruce Dickinson for some strange reason, even though he is certainly more theatrical sounding than Khemmis. I dunno, I want to describe it as camp but I feel like that might be insulting to a metalhead when I don't mean it to be.

Dio definitely fits in that camp and is one of the reasons I don't love him as much as you do.

Metal is really out of my wheelhouse, with a few exceptions, and I've actually listened to the Khemmis and High on Fire albums several times because of this thread and I'm glad for that because working on expanding tastes is always good in my opinion.
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I know what you mean by those clear metal vocals. They border pure camp and brutal masculinity. Only metal has it and I believe those guys could actually sing anything but just love metal so much. Freddie Mercury would have been an awesome metal vocalist but he didn’t have devotion to the genre like Dio or Halford or Dickinson. The classic metaller who is the exception to the rule is Ozzy, who’s voice isn’t really rooted in anything in rock and almost works as another instrument in the wall of sound.

Ozzy rules!
 
dhodo said:
Ha, I know what you mean, to me it just sounds like hooooooooo, hooooooooo, which is weird but not as dumb as poooooo, poooooo I suppose.

But, really it wasn't the growls I was talking about. The clean vocals have what seems to be a vocal style that I haven't run into anywhere outside of metal. I don't know what it is about it but it's kinda of a super clean, well annunciated, theatrical vocal style that I have a hard time with. Except for Bruce Dickinson for some strange reason, even though he is certainly more theatrical sounding than Khemmis. I dunno, I want to describe it as camp but I feel like that might be insulting to a metalhead when I don't mean it to be.

Dio definitely fits in that camp and is one of the reasons I don't love him as much as you do.

Metal is really out of my wheelhouse, with a few exceptions, and I've actually listened to the Khemmis and High on Fire albums several times because of this thread and I'm glad for that because working on expanding tastes is always good in my opinion.
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Definitely campy in a way! I can’t stand Broadway style singing for this reason, and it took forever to get into Maiden (sacrilege for a metalhead I know). I still can’t do Power Metal or real high register singing, but I’ll periodically try.

If it were up to me, I’d enjoy every single genre and subgenre our there and never be unhappy with a musical selection. What a rich world it would be.

I finally got into country a couple years ago with Sturgill and Colter and all them. It’s opened up a whole new world.
 
dhodo said:
Ha, I know what you mean, to me it just sounds like hooooooooo, hooooooooo, which is weird but not as dumb as poooooo, poooooo I suppose.

But, really it wasn't the growls I was talking about. The clean vocals have what seems to be a vocal style that I haven't run into anywhere outside of metal. I don't know what it is about it but it's kinda of a super clean, well annunciated, theatrical vocal style that I have a hard time with. Except for Bruce Dickinson for some strange reason, even though he is certainly more theatrical sounding than Khemmis. I dunno, I want to describe it as camp but I feel like that might be insulting to a metalhead when I don't mean it to be.

Dio definitely fits in that camp and is one of the reasons I don't love him as much as you do.

Metal is really out of my wheelhouse, with a few exceptions, and I've actually listened to the Khemmis and High on Fire albums several times because of this thread and I'm glad for that because working on expanding tastes is always good in my opinion.
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HOO-HOO makes no sense. It’s POO-POO he’s singing about. Not the first metallers to sing about Poo. They are following in a fine tradition.

 
Murfocakes said:
I know what you mean by those clear metal vocals. They border pure camp and brutal masculinity. Only metal has it and I believe those guys could actually sing anything but just love metal so much. Freddie Mercury would have been an awesome metal vocalist but he didn’t have devotion to the genre like Dio or Halford or Dickinson. The classic metaller who is the exception to the rule is Ozzy, who’s voice isn’t really rooted in anything in rock and almost works as another instrument in the wall of sound.

Ozzy rules!
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Yeah, the first two Sabbath albums are definite exceptions for me. Love them.
 
Goatfish said:
Definitely campy in a way! I can’t stand Broadway style singing for this reason, and it took forever to get into Maiden (sacrilege for a metalhead I know). I still can’t do Power Metal or real high register singing, but I’ll periodically try.

If it were up to me, I’d enjoy every single genre and subgenre our there and never be unhappy with a musical selection. What a rich world it would be.

I finally got into country a couple years ago with Sturgill and Colter and all them. It’s opened up a whole new world.
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A rich world but a poor me! As much as I try to expand to new genres and artists, it is definitely a double edged sword, because I can't afford everything I already want!
 
Can someone make a playlist of intro to metal for me? With some of the artists in this thread? I was doing my best to stay caught up on listening to what everyone is guessing and suggesting. But I've fallen way behind and am sad about it. It seems daunting to me. But I want to learn!

I'd love you forever!
 
Murfocakes said:
Go on and volunteer. It’s a blast. Monitoring the guesses is the harder month. I didn’t realise how much reading and organising @Skalap had last month.



Don’t even try to. Just do your own thing and it will be great. This is the only vinyl club in town in my book. I’m honoured to be sandwiched between @Goatfish and @Skalap and have every faith your month will be awesome!
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Thank you, I hope I don't let you all down.
 
Dark Star Boogie said:
Agreed!

Master Of Reality and Vol. 4 might be my favorite two Sabbath albums, although “Fairies Wear Boots” is my favorite song. I’ve just heard “Iron Man” and “Paranoid” two much that I can’t place Paranoid as my favorite Sabbath album.

Also, @dhodo do you like Sleep?
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I've tried them before but it didn't stick. Can't remember why. I'll give them another shot.
 
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