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epyon415 said:
Ok, looks like we are going to be 10, which should be fine. I propose we lock things down on Wednesday 9/28, and schedule draft either 10/1 or 10/2. Please provide feedback.

Any change requests from last season’s setting (Roster size, scoring, matchups, etc)?

Also I assume everyone wants the draft order set/published ahead of time??

lastly, can I confirm teams+owners??:

me - Holy Ghost
@Hollywood - woo letang clan
@BjorgenFjorgen - bjorgen scjorin’
@ranbalam - Detroit breakdown
@gregathon - Greg’s crate diggers
@Jonathan Y - JonYs puckin team
@Crabbers - the crabjackets
@teefer - the reefer killers
@Ginormousthumbs - surrey sacks sullivan
@Turbo - turbos psycho killers
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Yes, I'm in and prefer Sunday the 2nd as well.

And sorry to disappoint @Hollywood and others, but I don't think it's possible to know the draft order ahead of time. It randomizes when the draft room opens about 30 minutes before first pick.
 
Teams are locked. You are all stuck here forever!!

Want to confirm that we DO NOT want to do a keeper league/draft, correct? Starting a Keeper League | Fantasy Hockey | Yahoo! Sports

− What is a Keeper League?​

In a general sense, when people talk about a keeper league, they are talking about a fantasy league where the league doesn't start fresh every season. Some players are carried over from the previous season to maintain continuity. At the extreme is a dynasty league, which usually refers to a league where all players are carried over from season to season.

− What Happens to My Draft When I Have Keepers?​

In the end, every team needs to end up with the same number of players. So for every player they protect they need to forfeit one of their draft picks. But which pick they give up depends entirely on your rules. Some examples:
  • All Teams Keep the Same Number of Players: For leagues where each team protects the same number of players, this can usually be resolved pretty simply. If every team protects X players, you can imagine that the first X rounds of your draft are just all the teams taking their keepers. Similarly, you could imagine that the last X rounds are just all the teams taking their keepers, and it would play out the same.
  • Teams Keep Different Numbers of Players: For leagues where teams protect different numbers of players, this gets more complex. If I protect eight players, and you protect five players, there is a noteworthy difference between whether I use an extra three picks at the beginning of the draft or the end of the draft. Your league can decide which is more in the spirit of their goals. Putting those picks at the beginning of the draft puts a substantial salary on the kept players that isn't present if they are put at the end of the draft.
  • Keepers Based on Draft Position: For leagues that value player salary in terms of a draft pick, then their keepers may effectively be scattered throughout the draft. Perhaps you and I each protect three players, but based on their past draft position I might give up my 1st, 5th, and 8th round picks to keep those players, whereas you might give up your 3rd, 12th, and 17th round picks to keep your players. Such a system is very powerful, but slightly more complicated to administer and maintain.
  • Salary Cap Drafts: For salary cap drafts, there is no notion of draft position. Instead, each team will potentially be able to win a different number of players at draft to fill out their roster. If every team in your league protects the same number of players, then you don't necessarily need to adjust anyone's salary cap budget. But if your kept players have an associated salary, then that probably needs to get reflected in differing budgets per team, and if teams protect differing numbers of players you almost certainly want to have that reflected in budget. It has an important meaning if I protect six players and you protect three, but we both start with the same amount of money to fill out our rosters. Effectively, I'd be protecting three players as if I purchased them for $0.
  • Draft Order: In just about any redraft league, the draft order proceeds in a snaking fashion; whoever picks first in the odd numbered rounds picks last in the even numbered rounds, and vice versa. In a keeper league, it is often interesting to revisit this assumption. The NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL all give preferred draft position to teams that do poorly, in one way or another, in an effort to encourage parity. Your fantasy team may wish to do the same. Since the point of snaking the draft order is usually to not provide any undue advantage to teams that are all supposed to be drafting equally, you could instead say, "The team who finished last this year drafts first
 
epyon415 said:
Teams are locked. You are all stuck here forever!!

Want to confirm that we DO NOT want to do a keeper league/draft, correct? Starting a Keeper League | Fantasy Hockey | Yahoo! Sports

− What is a Keeper League?​

In a general sense, when people talk about a keeper league, they are talking about a fantasy league where the league doesn't start fresh every season. Some players are carried over from the previous season to maintain continuity. At the extreme is a dynasty league, which usually refers to a league where all players are carried over from season to season.

− What Happens to My Draft When I Have Keepers?​

In the end, every team needs to end up with the same number of players. So for every player they protect they need to forfeit one of their draft picks. But which pick they give up depends entirely on your rules. Some examples:
  • All Teams Keep the Same Number of Players: For leagues where each team protects the same number of players, this can usually be resolved pretty simply. If every team protects X players, you can imagine that the first X rounds of your draft are just all the teams taking their keepers. Similarly, you could imagine that the last X rounds are just all the teams taking their keepers, and it would play out the same.
  • Teams Keep Different Numbers of Players: For leagues where teams protect different numbers of players, this gets more complex. If I protect eight players, and you protect five players, there is a noteworthy difference between whether I use an extra three picks at the beginning of the draft or the end of the draft. Your league can decide which is more in the spirit of their goals. Putting those picks at the beginning of the draft puts a substantial salary on the kept players that isn't present if they are put at the end of the draft.
  • Keepers Based on Draft Position: For leagues that value player salary in terms of a draft pick, then their keepers may effectively be scattered throughout the draft. Perhaps you and I each protect three players, but based on their past draft position I might give up my 1st, 5th, and 8th round picks to keep those players, whereas you might give up your 3rd, 12th, and 17th round picks to keep your players. Such a system is very powerful, but slightly more complicated to administer and maintain.
  • Salary Cap Drafts: For salary cap drafts, there is no notion of draft position. Instead, each team will potentially be able to win a different number of players at draft to fill out their roster. If every team in your league protects the same number of players, then you don't necessarily need to adjust anyone's salary cap budget. But if your kept players have an associated salary, then that probably needs to get reflected in differing budgets per team, and if teams protect differing numbers of players you almost certainly want to have that reflected in budget. It has an important meaning if I protect six players and you protect three, but we both start with the same amount of money to fill out our rosters. Effectively, I'd be protecting three players as if I purchased them for $0.
  • Draft Order: In just about any redraft league, the draft order proceeds in a snaking fashion; whoever picks first in the odd numbered rounds picks last in the even numbered rounds, and vice versa. In a keeper league, it is often interesting to revisit this assumption. The NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL all give preferred draft position to teams that do poorly, in one way or another, in an effort to encourage parity. Your fantasy team may wish to do the same. Since the point of snaking the draft order is usually to not provide any undue advantage to teams that are all supposed to be drafting equally, you could instead say, "The team who finished last this year drafts first
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I do not think we should do keepers, at least not right now. If we want to, people need to know that when they draft — i.e., a year ahead of time. They might have traded or dropped players last season that they wouldn't have if we were in a keeper situation.

Changing draft rules/order, etc., also seems unwise right now. That is better for longer-term keeper leagues when everyone knows everyone is in every year.
 
@BjorgenFjorgen @Turbo @teefer @Crabbers @gregathon @Ginormousthumbs @Jonathan Y @ranbalam @Hollywood

Keeper league disabled and draft set for Sunday October 2 @ 1pm PST. If this time doesn't work, please let me know.
look what i found ;D. So I guess this can be pre-set. Changes to the order can be made, but it will reset the order, so I am leaving it as such unless folks wish to reset/remove this and opt for draft order prior to draft event.
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epyon415 said:
@BjorgenFjorgen @Turbo @teefer @Crabbers @gregathon @Ginormousthumbs @Jonathan Y @ranbalam @Hollywood

Keeper league disabled and draft set for Sunday October 2 @ 1pm PST. If this time doesn't work, please let me know.
look what i found ;D. So I guess this can be pre-set. Changes to the order can be made, but it will reset the order, so I am leaving it as such unless folks wish to reset/remove this and opt for draft order prior to draft event.
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Yeah, it's possible but we're doing random order anyway. Seems fairest just to let Yahoo determine it ahead of time.
 
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