Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

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Doctors Worry That Memory Problems After COVID-19 May Set The Stage For Alzheimer's

Some patients who have had COVID-19 develop symptoms resembling early Alzheimer's. Researchers are trying to figure out whether these people are more likely to develop the disease itself.
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Also, in other news Fauci is having to defend the CDC's latest guidance on mask wearing with statements like "the science hasn't changed, the virus has".
 
go see your concerts/events now, because with Delta spreading easier and hitting harder, I wouldn't be surprised if another nationwide shutdown is coming...
 
I haven't worn a mask inside of a business for over a month up until this past Sunday. I'll probably continue to do so until Delta settles down a little bit.

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'I don't feel any fear going out.' How residents are living in America's most vaccinated state

Throughout Vermont, hospital Covid-19 units are mostly empty. Bars and restaurants are hopping again. In remote rural towns, diners, country stores and campgrounds are filling up. This is life in the most vaccinated state in America.
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I am much more skeptical that any sort of national lockdown will be able to happen again. I believe you are much more likely to see many more states take the route that South Dakota did and never enforce any sort of lockdown orders. To put it bluntly, the people in a great many areas of this country just will not have that shit again. To the point that even if lockdown orders are given, they will be widely resisted (sometimes violently so) and/or ignored.

This has moved from being a pandemic to endemic. It’s never going away and it will be with us always. But before you go laying the blame on people, you should understand that this was always going to be how it went. I wasn’t the only one who called this from the very beginning.
 
wokeupnew said:
I haven't worn a mask inside of a business for over a month up until this past Sunday. I'll probably continue to do so until Delta settles down a little bit.

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'I don't feel any fear going out.' How residents are living in America's most vaccinated state

Throughout Vermont, hospital Covid-19 units are mostly empty. Bars and restaurants are hopping again. In remote rural towns, diners, country stores and campgrounds are filling up. This is life in the most vaccinated state in America.
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The indoor mask mandate in public spaces was never lifted here. It's one of the few things that remains other than controls on gathering sizes based on distancing & numbers. I don't think it will be lifted because although we're still resisting delta somehow, there's now some indications it's starting to spread.

Our government said they won't lock down again though. If there's an outbreak, they're going full out with vaccination passports for non-essential activities (and no earlier than September so everyone has a fair chance at being double-dosed). In case of outbreak, you could still do your groceries, get healthcare, etc if you're not vaccinated, but no cinema, restaurants, bars and such.
 
"This institution is a sham, and we should adjourn and shut this place down," Roy said theatrically as Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene gave him a standing ovation.
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This statement comes after masks are once again required on the house floor.

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Analysis: A telling 'no' on House Republicans' anti-mask vote

On Wednesday, Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy tried to adjourn the House to protest new guidelines that would require members of Congress to wear masks on the floor.
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CDC shares 'pivotal discovery' on Covid-19 breakthrough infections that led to new mask guidance

A new study shows the Delta Covid-19 variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they get infected -- illustrating a key motivation behind the federal guidance that now recommends most fully vaccinated Americans wear masks indoors.
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CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts coronavirus outbreak were vaccinated but few required hospitalization — The Washington Post

A sobering scientific analysis published Friday found that three-quarters of the people infected during an explosive coronavirus outbreak fueled by the delta variant were fully vaccinated. The report on the Massachusetts cases, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, offers key...
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Basically, with Delta, if you catch it, you have the same virus load whether you are vaccinated or not. The vaccination has no effect as reducing the spread, thus the mask guidance has been updated again.

A vaccine will still make it less likely you will catch COVID, but if you do catch it, you are just as likely to spread it to other people.
 
Chucktshoes said:
I am much more skeptical that any sort of national lockdown will be able to happen again. I believe you are much more likely to see many more states take the route that South Dakota did and never enforce any sort of lockdown orders. To put it bluntly, the people in a great many areas of this country just will not have that shit again. To the point that even if lockdown orders are given, they will be widely resisted (sometimes violently so) and/or ignored.

This has moved from being a pandemic to endemic. It’s never going away and it will be with us always. But before you go laying the blame on people, you should understand that this was always going to be how it went. I wasn’t the only one who called this from the very beginning.
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It is still a pandemic. It's still spreading across continents in waves. Endemic means it belongs to a specific group or region, though the US definitely seems to be working to make that the case for us. Sure, it very likely will exist long-term, like influenzas, and hopefully with better vaccination rates we'll get mortality numbers closer to those, but we aren't there yet.

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If people would mask up indoors and vaccinate where possible, we could function pretty normally. It's absurd that people (including government) have been pretending this was basically over when there isn't even a vaccine available for almost 50 million citizens.
 
GritNGlitter said:
It is still a pandemic. It's still spreading across continents in waves. Endemic means it belongs to a specific group or region, though the US definitely seems to be working to make that the case for us. Sure, it very likely will exist long-term, like influenzas, and hopefully with better vaccination rates we'll get mortality numbers closer to those, but we aren't there yet.

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If people would mask up indoors and vaccinate where possible, we could function pretty normally. It's absurd that people (including government) have been pretending this was basically over when there isn't even a vaccine available for almost 50 million citizens.
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I’m suing the term just as others are with regards to it being endemic in humans. It’s not ever going away. I’m not even the first/only one here to say that. The sooner folks accept that, the sooner they can accept the reality of life moving forward.

The crisis is over, the rest of our lives have begun.

“Four other coronaviruses are endemic in humans and are responsible for a significant fraction of colds.” BostonGlobe.com, 18 July 2021
 
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The crisis is over, the rest of our lives have begun.

“Four other coronaviruses are endemic in humans and are responsible for a significant fraction of colds.” BostonGlobe.com, 18 July 2021
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To say this is to say fuck it, we're just going to go ahead and accept that being anti-science is just as good as demonstrable facts and science as it is understood, and that we're just going to be ok with 52k weekly infections and 2000-5000 weekly deaths. Just, fuck it, your under 12 year old kids are just going to have to roll the dice, good luck. We can't be bothered to pay attention to the science and we're just going to keep walking off this cliff.

It's incredibly cavalier and cynical and hopeless.

I can only conclude that you don't have school age children or care about anyone in a high risk group.
 
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To say this is to say fuck it, we're just going to go ahead and accept that being anti-science is just as good as demonstrable facts and science as it is understood, and that we're just going to be ok with 52k weekly infections and 2000-5000 weekly deaths. Just, fuck it, your under 12 year old kids are just going to have to roll the dice, good luck. We can't be bothered to pay attention to the science and we're just going to keep walking off this cliff.

It's incredibly cavalier and cynical and hopeless.

I can only conclude that you don't have school age children or care about anyone in a high risk group.
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I have all of the above. I’m just not a fear filled ninny scared of his own shadow. I make the decisions I feel are best for me and leave others to do the same for themselves. I also understand that it’s only for the last hundred years or so we have gotten as far removed as a species from death by common disease. Nature is reasserting itself and contrary to our hubris, we can’t outsmart it forever. You can deal with it or not, but that’s not ever going to change.

Here’s a secret for you, in case nobody has told you yet.

You’re going to die.

We all are and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Make peace with that and live your life the best you can. As others of a similar worldview as myself are fond of saying “Let go and let God.”
 
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Everyone knows they're going to die. The point is not to have to die before you need to. That's why we have, oh, any laws whatsoever.
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Much to the relief of most politicians, I am not involved in the decision of who “needs” to die. None of us really are.

As far as your other point, I’d venture that you have a gross misunderstanding of what the purpose is of 99.9% of the laws on the books. They’ve got not a damn thing to do with your safety.
 
Chucktshoes said:
Much to the relief of most politicians, I am not involved in the decision of who “needs” to die. None of us really are.

As far as your other point, I’d venture that you have a gross misunderstanding of what the purpose is of 99.9% of the laws on the books. They’ve got not a damn thing to do with your safety.
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The basis of society is people agreeing not to kill each other. No, most laws nowadays don't have to do with my safety. All of those came after people saying, "I won't kill you if you won't kill me" and then carrying that forward several more steps. If we're not agreeing to take care of each other, what is the point?
 
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