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Stocks and oil prices fall as Moderna CEO says current vaccines will struggle with Omicron

Global stocks and oil prices fell again Tuesday after a brief respite from the heavy sell-off triggered by the emergence of the Omicron coronavirus variant.
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What is this Omicron variant? This is the first I have heard about it. Then again I haven't been paying attaching to anything for the last week and a half. Spent 4 days on the road and moved my Grandmother into a new condo in Surfside Beach in South Carolina over Thanksgiving.
 
Another close friend just tested positive for Covid, and he was already boosted over two weeks ago. I haven't seen him in about 10 days so I think I'm ok. He's symptom free, but I am just bottoming out emotionally on this. I feel like this virus is going to swirl around us; morph and regenerate and never leave us alone.

Happy to report my other friend is out of the hospital, so that's good. He was texting goodbyes at one point, said he was sure he was a goner.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
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Stocks and oil prices fall as Moderna CEO says current vaccines will struggle with Omicron

Global stocks and oil prices fell again Tuesday after a brief respite from the heavy sell-off triggered by the emergence of the Omicron coronavirus variant.
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What is this Omicron variant? This is the first I have heard about it. Then again I haven't been paying attaching to anything for the last week and a half. Spent 4 days on the road and moved my Grandmother into a new condo in Surfside Beach in South Carolina over Thanksgiving.
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We're not sure, but it represents a clear evolutionary line in the virus. It is much more contagious but it seems (thus far) to be much less deadly. This is how viruses tend to evolve in populations. The virus can't spread if it kills the host or makes the host too sick. So it adapts to be easier on the host so that it can spread among the host population. I really, really hope this is what is going on.
 
Went to Florida to spend Thanksgiving with the family in-law. Day before turkey dinner my wife's sis texts: her six month-old has contracted COVID. Apparently she brought her baby to a big indoor party where she was "pretty sure" everyone was vaccinated. When my MIL pushed for our other niece, 5yo to get vaccinated, SIL unloaded on her and my wife, saying "we're not going to get a shot every time the cdc says oh you need another vaccine. I'm so over covid and people hating one another on choices."

It's so different down there; it feels like everyone's just pretending it's over. They've decided they're tired of it, so the drug stores just stock tests instead of masks. And I can understand the social pressure; by a week of being in Florida, I found myself going out and realizing I forgot to bring a mask or not worrying about putting one on in environments I'd mask up back home (where most people are masked even in outdoor public spaces).

She did acquiesce that "yes some people are dying," so I shouldn't question how seriously she's taking this. So, hey.
 
nolalady said:
And the next case will be found in New York...
Or every where else they have large international air travel hubs, because it's the world travelers that are spreading this.
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Biggest chance is this is already been going around for a couple of weeks without anyone looking for this. One of the cases they found in germany was in a man who had not travelled internationally nor had any known contacts with someone who had
 
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Atlanta's on that list... huzzah...
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Isn’t Atlanta a huge transit hub? Whenever we have non direct flights to the South/South West of the states from Europe it seems that we transit in Atlanta.

Jan said:
Biggest chance is this is already been going around for a couple of weeks without anyone looking for this. One of the cases they found in germany was in a man who had not travelled internationally nor had any known contacts with someone who had
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It’s also, it seems, been around longer than we think. Our people seem to have identified 14 potentials so far but 3 of those potentials date back to October.
 
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Some experts suggest Omicron variant may have evolved in an animal host

Some experts speculate the Omicron variant evolved not in an immunocompromised person, as widely believed, but in another animal species.
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Given the unusual set of mutations and the fact that Omicron appears to be on a divergent path from viruses circulating over a year ago and not from recent variants, several biologists think that it may come from an animal reservoir. Most likely rodents, based on the set of mutations. The theory would be that a reverse-zoonosis occurred mid-2020, the virus evolved in the animal host, and a new zoonosis occurred recently. It may however be a while before either this theory can be further supported or whether it can be ascertained that Omicron came up in immunocompromised individuals as is often the case for variants.

Anyway, this is interesting. At the very least, it underscores how seriously findings like the white-tailed deer SARSCOV2 reservoir I posted here earlier should be taken.
 
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Florida's DeSantis wants to hand out taxpayer dollars to businesses that defy vaccine mandates

As Florida Republicans, led by Gov. Ron DeSantis, escalate their fight against President Joe Biden's coronavirus vaccine mandate, they are testing a new method to support resisters: giving taxpayer money to the unvaccinated.
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St. Petersburg, Florida (CNN)As Florida Republicans, led by Gov. Ron DeSantis, escalate their fight against President Joe Biden's coronavirus vaccine mandate, they are testing a new method to support resisters: giving taxpayer money to the unvaccinated.

Florida is one of a handful of states that now ensures people who refuse the shot remain eligible for unemployment benefits if they lose their job over their stance.

And DeSantis, one of the leading Republican voices against federal vaccine requirements, wants to go even further. He says his state may pay the fines of businesses that snub the federal vaccine mandate -- and he'll do it with coronavirus relief aid signed into law by Biden.

"This is an important fight," DeSantis recently told business leaders. "And it's a fight we're happy to join."
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So FL will pay the fine the federal government applies to any business who doesn't follow the vaccination mandate. Also give unemployment to anyone who loses their job for not getting the vaccination.


SMH
 
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