oldschoolkirby
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Thanks - test was negative, so yeah, just a nasty cold. Mostly better now, only some lingering phlegm.
Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus
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bfly
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while it does look goofy, this was required in many bands around the country at all levels of education- the thought being that your mouth still has droplets suppressed when you are not playing, and your nose is covered, all of which reduces transmission or potential severity.
this still was from 2020, as are most of similar photos from NY to Iowa to CA, and has since been dropped since it was proven to not be very effective or necessary. it was an attempt at safety when things were trying to "return to normal" pre-vaccine.
debianlinux
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Both kids got round 1 today. Interested to see how it goes tomorrow.
wmeugene
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My kids got it yesterday, a little soreness in the arms at bedtime and perfectly fine in the morning. Worst part was the anxiety and crying right before the shot.
folsom_lives
pretty_lil_dirt_boi
Well the crazies are coming out of the woodwork and letting their positions be known after the OSHA guidelines for unvaccinated persons being subject to weekly testing. Including someone replying all to the company-wide directory with the infamous "let's go Brandon" refrain.
This was followed up with several more "reply alls" and people spouting doubts on vaccine efficacy and political motivations.
I finally had to chime in with:
"I appreciate your enthusiasm on this, but I think this might be the wrong channel for these opinions.
These emails are becoming a distraction for those of us trying to get some work done today.
I would appreciate being removed from any further replies unless they are coming from the leadership team."
Can Outlook make an UNSUBSCRIBE button already?
This was followed up with several more "reply alls" and people spouting doubts on vaccine efficacy and political motivations.
I finally had to chime in with:
"I appreciate your enthusiasm on this, but I think this might be the wrong channel for these opinions.
These emails are becoming a distraction for those of us trying to get some work done today.
I would appreciate being removed from any further replies unless they are coming from the leadership team."
Can Outlook make an UNSUBSCRIBE button already?
LeSamourai
Well-Known Member
Well the crazies are coming out of the woodwork and letting their positions be known after the OSHA guidelines for unvaccinated persons being subject to weekly testing. Including someone replying all to the company-wide directory with the infamous "let's go Brandon" refrain.
This was followed up with several more "reply alls" and people spouting doubts on vaccine efficacy and political motivations.
I finally had to chime in with:
"I appreciate your enthusiasm on this, but I think this might be the wrong channel for these opinions.
These emails are becoming a distraction for those of us trying to get some work done today.
I would appreciate being removed from any further replies unless they are coming from the leadership team."
Can Outlook make an UNSUBSCRIBE button already?
Like, maybe I'm old fashioned (I am a millennial, after all), but I honestly don't understand how anyone could think that kind of political talk should be welcome at work. I've definitely had and currently have politicians in power that I don't approve of*, but I'm an adult, so I don't talk about it at work. It honestly boggles my mind that so many people today have allowed social media-style context collapse to bleed out from the internet into all these other aspects of their lives.
*all of them, but some even more than others
folsom_lives
pretty_lil_dirt_boi
It was shocking to see someone be so bold. The other shock was that it took 3 days for HR to reply with something saying we shouldn’t use the company email for political opinions.
ranbalam
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Funny timing. A co-worker just five minutes ago told me that a guy in our inspections department (who is notorious for being anti-vax and a 'do your research' guy) was asked by Beaumont Health Systems to wear a mask for that day's inspection. He flat out refused and raised his voice to our customer about how he's not a sheep and masks don't do anything.
Hey, if you're at home and want to spout that stuff to your wife and friends, fine...but this was at work. And he was entering a HEALTH facility. Unreal. And he won't be reprimanded here because our bosses have a very hands-off management style. Like, it's nearly impossible to get reprimanded for anything here. Just as an example of that hands-off style; one of our designers brought his dog to work a few weeks ago. Nobody said anything, so now he does it at least once a week. I don't mind, I like dogs, but that's pushing it a bit.
Dtknuckles
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ranbalam
Well-Known Member
My wife's description of her hospital right now is close to horrifying.
Almost 50 Covid patients. (that's almost the highest since this all started.) I guess Michigan has become a hotspot AGAIN.
47 people in the ER with various ailments waiting for rooms, some since the 14th, and some of which haven't been looked at since then.
It sounds like a third world country over there...this is where we are nowadays? It's maddening.
Almost 50 Covid patients. (that's almost the highest since this all started.) I guess Michigan has become a hotspot AGAIN.
47 people in the ER with various ailments waiting for rooms, some since the 14th, and some of which haven't been looked at since then.
It sounds like a third world country over there...this is where we are nowadays? It's maddening.
Yes, for some reason, MI is a hot spot, and so is Pennsylvania(?). There's no real great data that shows any sort of causality, and they are saying that this surge is all Delta variant, which I though already ripped through this population.
Also, unrelated, but related...
Results Approximately 10% of infants born to mothers with SARS-CoV-2 infections during pregnancy showed developmental delays. Two of 298 infants tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, and both had normal ASQ-3 scores. The majority of the pregnant women had SARS-CoV-2 infection during their third trimester. The risk of developmental delays among infants was higher in those whose mothers had SARS-CoV-2 infections during the first (P=0.039) and second trimesters (P=0.001) than in those whose mothers had SARS-CoV-2 infections during the third trimester. Infants born at <31 weeks gestation were more prone to developmental delays than those born at >31 weeks gestation (10% versus 0.8%; P=0.002).
Conclusion The findings of the study highlight the need for long term neurodevelopmental assessment of infants born to mothers with SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Neurodevelopmental outcomes of infants secondary to in utero exposure to maternal SARS-CoV-2 infection: A national prospective study in Kuwait
Background An increasing proportion of women are being infected with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) during pregnancy. Intrauterine viral infections induce an increase in the levels of proinflammatory cytokines, which inhibit the proliferation of neuronal precursor...
www.medrxiv.org
As someone who ran a state birth defects database, birth defect surveillance is abysmal. When I was working for the state, about 12 years ago, only 22 states actually reported into the CDC on birth defects. I'm keeping an eye on this because I'm very interested in abnormal neurodevelopment. This is alarming, but the sample size (N) is rather small (a couple hundred) which is not near enough to show anything more than cooccurrence, but man, are these results wild.
Max Sterling
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I guy I used to play cards with and his wife are both in the ICU for COVID. She was just put on a ventilator. They JUST had a baby...
Every time I forget how bad things have gotten I get reminded that this still fuckin' sucks.
Every time I forget how bad things have gotten I get reminded that this still fuckin' sucks.
Turbo
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SARS-CoV-2 exposure in wild white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus)
Widespread human SARS-CoV-2 infections combined with human–wildlife interactions create the potential for reverse zoonosis from humans to wildlife. We targeted white-tailed deer ( Odocoileus virginianus ) for serosurveillance based on evidence these deer have angiotensin-converting enzyme 2...
www.pnas.org
Been sitting on this paper after reading it last week. Some unexpected findings in there that bring up a lot of questions and concerns.
-The paper shows that white tailed deer populations in the northern US states have a very high prevalence of sero-positivity to SARS-COV-2. Meaning that they caught SARS-COV-2 in the past.
-They looked at historical blood samples and the seropositivity correlates well with the start of the pandemic in 2020, so cross-reactivity is not likely. Still makes me wonder, because these are not PCR tests where they specifically identified the virus, but the identification of antibodies that bind SARS-COV-2. But that correlation in time is hard to overlook.
-We're talking about high prevalence here: 67% of deer in MI, 44% in PE, 31% in NY and 7% in IL.
-So what the fuck is going on? How did deer catch this? And then how did they spread it to each other or did they? They spend their time outside and are mostly solitary. Could there be a common infection source, say drinking water? And what the hell, Michigan?
-Biggest issue with this is that there is now a documented natural source for SARSCOV2. So even if we eradicate in humans, it can always return. Are there other animal reservoirs? Minks come to mind.
Twentytwo
Pre-order Goodness
This is why it drives me insane when people say that this just the flu and that deaths are inflated. I know so many people in denial about this and say you really aren't at risk unless you have some preexisting conditions. Before Covid, I had never heard of someone getting put on a ventilator in their thirties that wasn't for some type of major surgery.
I read about three snow leopards in a zoo that caught it and died. They are seeing SARS in all sorts of cats--though I have not yet seen a case that we know for sure jumped species. They initially said that dogs don't get it, but I haven't heard any update on this.SARS-CoV-2 exposure in wild white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus)
Widespread human SARS-CoV-2 infections combined with human–wildlife interactions create the potential for reverse zoonosis from humans to wildlife. We targeted white-tailed deer ( Odocoileus virginianus ) for serosurveillance based on evidence these deer have angiotensin-converting enzyme 2...
Been sitting on this paper after reading it last week. Some unexpected findings in there that bring up a lot of questions and concerns.
-The paper shows that white tailed deer populations in the northern US states have a very high prevalence of sero-positivity to SARS-COV-2. Meaning that they caught SARS-COV-2 in the past.
-They looked at historical blood samples and the seropositivity correlates well with the start of the pandemic in 2020, so cross-reactivity is not likely. Still makes me wonder, because these are not PCR tests where they specifically identified the virus, but the identification of antibodies that bind SARS-COV-2. But that correlation in time is hard to overlook.
-We're talking about high prevalence here: 67% of deer in MI, 44% in PE, 31% in NY and 7% in IL.
-So what the fuck is going on? How did deer catch this? And then how did they spread it to each other or did they? They spend their time outside and are mostly solitary. Could there be a common infection source, say drinking water? And what the hell, Michigan?
-Biggest issue with this is that there is now a documented natural source for SARSCOV2. So even if we eradicate in humans, it can always return. Are there other animal reservoirs? Minks come to mind.
Max Sterling
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Yup, I keep hearing it too.
"I caught it and I was fine"
"My Uncle caught it and he's fine"
And when you try and tell them "I know like, three people who have died from this personally over the last year" they just start saying things like "Heart Disease kills more people!" As if the existence of greater threat justifies not taking this one seriously. A threat that isn't contagious and we have established treatments and preventative measures for, at that.
It's infuriating.
debianlinux
Well-Known Member
Yet somehow a guy at my office personally knows three people who developed previously non-existent heart conditions from getting the vaccine.
Twentytwo
Pre-order Goodness
I have heard about myocarditis in some adolescent patients and blood clotting in rare circumstances but I think the vaccine is overwhelmingly safe. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have given it to rich people and politicians first. And i do believe a lot of people are undiagnosed with things they actually have. I mean I had coronary artery disease at 39 and didn't know it until I started feeling sluggish. If those people have heart conditions it is probably because they already had them in the first place.
LeSamourai
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Our brains are absolutely, catastrophically incapable of processing and comparing small probabilities, so generally emotion takes control when deciding if a risk is worth it (this is true even for doctors, judges, and others who should "know better," because they still are operating with human brains despite their training). For the people who fear the vaccine, it's like being scared of flying commercial while still being willing to drive everywhere, despite the fact that flying is much safer per mile, because it doesn't feel that way. I know the vast difference between number of people killed driving and flying, but I can tell you how much more nervous I am when I get on that plane than I was driving to the airport. I wish it were as easy as showing how one probability is so much smaller than another, and then my brain would accept it and act accordingly, but I still have that bit of fear on take-off and landing. I don't know how to help people who fear the vaccine, because yes, there are always risks and risks are scary... it's just that there's a much bigger risk next to it (even when the much bigger risk can also be seen as somewhat small from some perspectives).