Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

ayayrawn said:
Glad I received this news on my 10th and last day of quarantine lmao😤😤😤

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I’m with you over here. My wife is on day ten of isolation. Ten days of single parenting. Christmas Eve via FaceTime. A brief Christmas morning with masks. Ten nights in my 10 year old’s bed. Ten nights of this shit. Sometimes all you can do is laugh.

Edit: I whine too much. We are all healthy and work is understanding, so I’ll just chalk this up as a temporary inconvenience.


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yukbon said:
.... how safe is this ? Does this mean they're no longer infectious?
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I don’t know if the data has changed with the newer variants. But it is still possible to shed virus 🦠. I’m thinking this is more about getting back to normal sooner. And they have calculated for vaccinated people the amount of virus they shed after 5 days is considered low enough that it’s worth the risk to lift the quarantine.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
I don’t know if the data has changed with the newer variants. But it is still possible to shed virus 🦠. I’m thinking this is more about getting back to normal sooner. And they have calculated for vaccinated people the amount of virus they shed after 5 days is considered low enough that it’s worth the risk to lift the quarantine.
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From looking at the reporting about the CDC guidance, it appears to be about work capacity, and is not based on any medical or scientific data at all.

look at this weasel language (from CNN's reporting about CDC's guidance -- the CDC guidance itself is a huge fucking clusterfuck of bad communication)

"The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after."

... so the majority, generally kinda sorta.... what?

"Alternatively, if a five-day quarantine is not feasible, it is imperative that an exposed person wear a well-fitting mask at all times when around others for 10 days after exposure," the CDC added.

And even this mealy-mouthed bullshit is being soft-pedaled: "hey if you need to go to work, you gotta work!"

Dr. Anthony Fauci said the changes were aimed, in part, at keeping society running smoothly. "With the sheer volume of new cases that we are having and that we expect to continue with Omicron, one of the things that we want to be careful of is that we don't have so many people out," Fauci told CNN's Jim Acosta. "We want to get people back to the jobs, particularly the essential jobs, to keep society running smoothly," said Fauci, who is director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

And there it is.
 
yukbon said:
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From looking at the reporting about the CDC guidance, it appears to be about work capacity, and is not based on any medical or scientific data at all.

look at this weasel language (from CNN's reporting about CDC's guidance -- the CDC guidance itself is a huge fucking clusterfuck of bad communication)

"The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after."

... so the majority, generally kinda sorta.... what?

"Alternatively, if a five-day quarantine is not feasible, it is imperative that an exposed person wear a well-fitting mask at all times when around others for 10 days after exposure," the CDC added.

And even this mealy-mouthed bullshit is being soft-pedaled: "hey if you need to go to work, you gotta work!"

Dr. Anthony Fauci said the changes were aimed, in part, at keeping society running smoothly. "With the sheer volume of new cases that we are having and that we expect to continue with Omicron, one of the things that we want to be careful of is that we don't have so many people out," Fauci told CNN's Jim Acosta. "We want to get people back to the jobs, particularly the essential jobs, to keep society running smoothly," said Fauci, who is director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

And there it is.
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Oh you mean like how all the people going to the Met Ball didn’t wear face masks but everyone serving them did? Or what about Obama’s Birthday party? Or the multiple other bashes Washington-ites had where they were not “following the science”?

The realization that those rich people who are continuing to spread this thing with international travel and lower levels of mask wearing can pay for medical care if they are sick. And those who cannot are masking and doing what they can not to get sick because they cannot afford a sick day or a trip to the doctor. Now consider that our national strategy is to stay open at all cost. Not providing citizens with universal healthcare is akin to criminal negligence at this point.
 
Our local (greater Boston) public utility just updated their covid/wastewater charts. It's grim, and basically tracks my real world experience (I know, personally or tangentially, dozens of people that have covid right now).

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