Political Discussion

[Nee Lewman]

Oh shit, they’ve been showing an Istanbul commercial all night too, I just didn’t recognize it for what it was talking with you knuckleheads.

 

[Nee Lewman]

Well there you go. She ain’t it. Figure it out democrats, fucking clowns.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

On MSNBC I just saw an Arizona undecided voter refer to Biden as a “poor thing”. She’s wasn’t a fan of Trump but she felt pity for Grandpa Joe.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

no one is even gonna pay attention to Trumps confidently told lies because everyone is worried if Biden will even make it to the election.

 

[epyon415]

she felt pity for Grandpa Joe.

Maybe this is the DNC’s play…get everyone to feel bad for the old man and offer him a sympathy vote.

I’m surprised so many of y’all watched the debate, or whatever it was. Not sure how you mustered the strength.

 

[avecigrec]

I’m surprised so many of y’all watched the debate, or whatever it was. Not sure how you mustered the strength.

I couldn't watch it but I did listen to the first half while making supper. Would've kept listening but my speaker died just as my wife was walking in the door, which was probably for the best because she would've probably rather listened to Sun Ra!

 

[Hemotep]

Of course she's not. She's a black, liberal woman. That's scary than an feeble old liberal man. You think Biden is a galvanizing figure for MAGA, imagine Kamala.

There are a lot of awesome Black liberal women in politics, but Harris is only three of those four things.

 

[Jan]

The true losers of this presidential debate were the American people | Rebecca Solnit

We didn’t need this show. Each candidate has had time to show us who they are, and one is a felon trying to destroy democracy

www.theguardian.com

 

[Hemotep]

The true losers of this presidential debate were the American people | Rebecca Solnit

We didn’t need this show. Each candidate has had time to show us who they are, and one is a felon trying to destroy democracy

www.theguardian.com

Glad someone said this at least.

"the hacks running the debate were no more interested in substance or the fate of the country or the earth than Trump. They were putting on a show, and they were putting it on as though we still lived in a world that no longer exists. By so doing they further endangered the world in which we do exist."

 

[Hemotep]

Generally I think you're right, but in talking with younger students there are a lot who are so disconnected from politics and weren't old enough a few years ago to care so they don't realize how dumb as a bag of dicks Trump is. Now I have no reason to believe that they'll watch the debate, but my hope is that some of the reactionary element who are more ignorant than dumb may see the massive difference between these two side by side and it might pull a fraction of a fraction.

That said, how awesome would it be if the building collapsed on them?

Really disappointing that the building didn't collapse.

 

[RenegadeMonster]

Can I hibernate for a generation and hope that things are better when I wake up?

 

[Hemotep]

You know one of the minor things that really pisses me off is Biden's comment that he didn't have sex with a porn star. Like that's the immoral thing? It's that Trump cheated on his wife while she was giving birth to his son. Who gives a shit what the woman he slept with does for a living? Shaming her career isn't the damn point, but Biden's too stupid to get that there's a huge difference.

 

[Nee Lewman]

You know one of the minor things that really pisses me off is Biden's comment that he didn't have sex with a porn star. Like that's the immoral thing? It's that Trump cheated on his wife while she was giving birth to his son. Who gives a shit what the woman he slept with does for a living? Shaming her career isn't the damn point, but Biden's too stupid to get that there's a huge difference.

I mean the dems can’t really play that card because of Clinton.

 

[Hemotep]

I mean the dems can’t really play that card because of Clinton.

Then he shouldn't have raised the issue of morality at all, because the sex being with a porn star isn't what was messed up about it.

 

[Nee Lewman]

Then he shouldn't have raised the issue of morality at all, because the sex being with a porn star isn't what was messed up about it.

I don’t disagree

 

[Turbo]

What's the mechanism for changing the candidate? Joe drops out and there's a "contested" convention?

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

You know one of the minor things that really pisses me off is Biden's comment that he didn't have sex with a porn star. Like that's the immoral thing? It's that Trump cheated on his wife while she was giving birth to his son. Who gives a shit what the woman he slept with does for a living? Shaming her career isn't the damn point, but Biden's too stupid to get that there's a huge difference.

Not to parse and your point is valid but the more alarming aspect is that Biden who had supposedly been prepping for this debate now for a couple of weeks was so inarticulate that what came out was something about having sex with porn stars when they had likely worked on a prepared attack where Biden was supposed to attack Trump’s morality in a way more critical way and articulate way than that.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

Biden looked like he might keel over on the debate stage last night. Him deriding porn stars was something I’d be bothered by if this was a normal debate between candidates that were 20 years younger.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

What's the mechanism for changing the candidate? Joe drops out and there's a "contested" convention?

Really, he would need to drop out or die. I don’t foresee either of those things likely happening. The best hope we have at this point is the election is 5 months away and there is the Convention and (maybe) another debate. The Biden campaign no longer has the luxury of wrapping Joe in bubble wrap while claiming that he is still sharp and up for the task. Instead of trying to convince the country that Trump is a threat to democracy and that Biden can continue to make the economy work for your average American, he will now have to spend a lot more time convincing people he shouldn’t be in an assisted living facility.

 

[Turbo]

Really, he would need to drop out or die. I don’t foresee either of those things likely happening. The best hope we have at this point is the election is 5 months away and there is the Convention and (maybe) another debate. The Biden campaign no longer has the luxury of wrapping Joe in bubble wrap while claiming that he is still sharp and up for the task. Instead of trying to convince the country that Trump is a threat to democracy and that Biden can continue to make the economy work for your average American, he will now have to spend a lot more time convincing people he shouldn’t be in an assisted living facility.

The pressure for him to drop out will be as big as it gets, I think. I guess it will depend on what the polls look like in a few days, but I don't expect it to be good for him.