Pre-Order Thread

This is a DMM. What's important to know is that it actually contains the original track listing. Past vinyl issues substituted songs like "Spin Spin Sugar" and "6 Underground" with remixes. You couldn't find them on the album at all. You'd have to get an OG copy.

Anyway this is awesome. Classic album that was way better than just the big single that came from it.
I preordered this on amazon in April. It says it has a release date of September 6th on Amazon now, so I assume it's the same one.
 
Curious question...why are you and others bothered by this? I get it if this was the only vinyl pressing of it...I'd be pissed too. But I'm not entirely sure why people are so up in arms about this one? I'm a huge Wilco fan. I'm looking forward to the new album and to see them on tour in the fall. I'm indifferent about the $500 version. If they sell it and it helps them financially, so be it. I'm sure the book cost a pretty penny to produce (although not $500 worth). The guy who designed the book is pretty awesome. I personally don't think it's screwing over their fans or anything but to each his/her own!

I hear you, I'm a little surprised at my reaction as well. I am all for artists getting paid for their work and if someone wants to pay big $$$ for an object that isn't valuable to me then by all means, be my guest and who am I to judge how you spend your money. I think my issue is that it is *this* band and a reaction to the kind of relationship they have cultivated with their fans over their (mainly Jeff's) career. This is the band that recorded three albums worth of music set to Woody Guthrie's lyrics (I wonder what Billy Bragg thinks about something like this) and cultivates their own music festival that seems to honestly try to connect people and artists and not just be a way to sell as much overpriced Heineken as their fans can stomach. I have close friends who have had incredibly meaningful personal interactions with the band over the years, and the last time I saw Jeff play was at a show in SF where he was publicly very emotional about the Brett Kavanaugh nomination. Their values and their art are very much intertwined, and I think that is part of what fosters a pretty deep connection for fans -- that (for me) being a Wilco fan is about more than just a customer buying a product that the band may be selling. Big picture, its probably a little dumb to let identity and emotion get so tied to a rock band, but isn't what part of what good art is trying to accomplish, to dig its way into you a little bit? So when I see this, it feels like more than just trying to provide a premium product option for those that may be interested and can afford it, but trading on (I want to say exploiting but that is probably too strong) that emotional investment in a way that isn't really justified by what they are offering back. That my very well just be good capitalism, but its not what I would have expected from Wilco. I don't know if that makes any sense and its probably not entirely fair to the band, but I just know that I don't like the way this feels on level that is more visceral than just "I think this thing they are selling is overpriced."
 
The pricing of the boxset reminds me of the Parks and Rec quote.

Eclipse, “a nightclub that’s only open for one hour two times a year — cover charge? $5,000.”


$500 just seems arbitrary to me. That's why we're all reacting to this a certain way. If it was a calculated price like $425 or $389.99, or something not on the dot, maybe there wouldn't be a fuss. I just think that someone must have asked "how much should we charge for this?" and someone blurted out "$500!" and they went with it. It feels like a cash grab because they can. If the price is justifiable then I'll retract my statement.
 
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Just curious, from a numbers perspective does anyone know what “Limited Edition” means to Sound of Vinyl?

So I just realised its a MOV release limited to 3000 in this colour according to their site

 
Blur - Live At The BBC

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Features 4 tracks – Girls & Boys, Jubilee, Trouble In The Message Centre , Lot 105 – taken from a radio session with Mark Radcliffe recorded live at the BBC in Manchester on 7th March 1994, just weeks ahead of Parklife’s release on 25th April. The recordings have never previously been globally available.

Live At The BBC will be available on 10” vinyl and on all DSPs.

Side One:
Girls & Boys
Jubilee
Side Two:
Trouble In The Message Centre
Lot 105


 
I could see people being pissed if it was the only vinyl variant. But it certainly isn't going to ruin Wilco for me that they chose to sell this. Maybe I'm in the minority though on it.

If your relationship to Wilco is the really just the music then it definitely shouldn't -- if you want, you'll get to listen to the same album that that person who also buys the $500 book gets to listen to.

Maybe an imperfect analogy, but... I recently tried to buy tickets for Elton John's farewell tour. Tickets were $250 to get in the door and sit in the nosebleeds, $450 to sit in the lower bowl and $1k+ to be on the floor. The tour is popular and he should be able to charge what he wants, more power to him. Its too rich for my blood but I'm not personally offended, and I don't think anyone can be all that surprised after Vegas residencies, other high-priced tours, the fact that this "farewell" tour seems to keep getting extended, etc. However, if Bruce Springsteen were to announce a farewell tour and charge the same, I would be stunned because that runs so antithetical to how he has managed his business and connected with his fans. It wouldn't change his music, but it may very well change the way that some people feel about their connection with his music.
 
If your relationship to Wilco is the really just the music then it definitely shouldn't -- if you want, you'll get to listen to the same album that that person who also buys the $500 book gets to listen to.

Maybe an imperfect analogy, but... I recently tried to buy tickets for Elton John's farewell tour. Tickets were $250 to get in the door and sit in the nosebleeds, $450 to sit in the lower bowl and $1k+ to be on the floor. The tour is popular and he should be able to charge what he wants, more power to him. Its too rich for my blood but I'm not personally offended, and I don't think anyone can be all that surprised after Vegas residencies, other high-priced tours, the fact that this "farewell" tour seems to keep getting extended, etc. However, if Bruce Springsteen were to announce a farewell tour and charge the same, I would be stunned because that runs so antithetical to how he has managed his business and connected with his fans. It wouldn't change his music, but it may very well change the way that some people feel about their connection with his music.
My relationship to them isn't just the music, but I also don't feel the need to buy every vinyl variant of every record they have, especially a $500 one. Some people out there might want it and more power to them (though it seems based on their sales number so far that not many people want it). I tried to get tickets for my parents to Elton's tour too as a retirement gift to my dad and the ticket prices were equally crazy to what you said and I couldn't afford them, so I understand how frustrating that is. I just got Wilco tix and they were $70 bucks or so for orchestra seats at Radio City so that's more important to me than them making all their tour tickets $250 like Elton did.

Bruce Springsteen is a funny analogy because he actually did something worse IMO. He got a ton of flak because he did his broadway show in NY and the orchestra seats were $850 list price. And in resale, tickets sold for as much as $10,000. His show made over $100 million in 56 weeks on Broadway. None of his "blue collar" fan base could afford to go see the show.

Anyway, this isn't the first time Wilco has done an expensive item as others have mentioned.

They sold a $1,200 box set of 10 albums in a wood box.

Here's an almost $200 pennant.

They also sold a $500 branded axe.

People shouldn't be surprised. This doesn't make their interactions with fans any less genuine to me. It doesn't affect their music. It wouldn't make me not see them on tour. They can still make good music and sell ridiculous expensive merch from time to time. I personally don't think any less of them. It's all silly and overly expensive stuff to me, but I wouldn't judge anybody for buying any of it if they want.

edit: I'll also say, that while I think the $500 price tag is egregious, the guy who designed the entire book for them is a super talented graphic designer who likely charged a good amount of money to design the book and the price to print something like that was likely not cheap. I do not think this is an item that cost $20 to make that they are selling for $500.
 
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this one's for you @Jonathan Y as the only connan mockasin fan i know on here haha

To be fair, he's the only one trying to get rid of an album. I've kept mine

Ayyyye! Appreciated! And @Dead C only cuz Mexican Summer sent me 2 of Jassbusters instead of 1 Jass and 1 Forever Dolphin Love

I think it's lasted because people see me in the rap hip hop threads all the time and assume my taste in other genres is skewed. IT'S KEWL GUYZ


Oh speaking of taste. This isn't for me but maybe for one of you lol New Iggy Azalea preorder

 
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