Pre-Order Thread

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Know this was posted over in the hip-hop thread but was it over here?
 

I still have a soft spot for this album. It says back in print, so I hope that means better quality. I read about the last prints being bad...

I just ordered this one...even if it's from SRC. Not a huge fan of them...but it seems to be the only place to order this reissue for now.
 
i'm really surprised that a lot of people are interested in this slipknot reissue as this could've been had as for yrs. it would go on sale at amazon for $11-14 what seems like as recent as the end of last yr beginning of this yr.. just found out today till this pre-order for the reissue this was out of print and going up in value.us who enjoy slipknot have been wanting Iowa ('01) and Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) ('04) albums on vinyl for a long time now wish the label would do a reissue for these albums.i know Slipknot is a like em or hate band but i'll always have a liking for them as the self titled '99 release got me back into metal music again.
 
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i'm really surprised that a lot of people are interested in this slipknot reissue as this could've been had as for yrs. it would go on sale at amazon for $11-14 what seems like as recent as the end of last yr beginning of this yr.. just found out today till this pre-order for the reissue this was out of print and going up in value.us who enjoy slipknot have been wanting Iowa ('01) and Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) ('04) albums on vinyl for a long time now wish the label would do a reissue for these albums.i know Slipknot is a like em or hate band but i'll always have a liking for them as the self titled '99 release got me back in metal music again.
I stopped after the third album. Those three albums are good enough for me. But yeah, totally I agree with you about getting those others on vinyl.
 
i'm really surprised that a lot of people are interested in this slipknot reissue as this could've been had as for yrs. it would go on sale at amazon for $11-14 what seems like as recent as the end of last yr beginning of this yr.. just found out today till this pre-order for the reissue this was out of print and going up in value.us who enjoy slipknot have been wanting Iowa ('01) and Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) ('04) albums on vinyl for a long time now wish the label would do a reissue for these albums.i know Slipknot is a like em or hate band but i'll always have a liking for them as the self titled '99 release got me back in metal music again.

I really wasn't into Slipknot until recently. They have all been OOP since then. I did fine an OP release of All Hope Is Gone last year at my local store.
 
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Nature of the game now it seems but it’s annoying to order as soon as you hear about those direct from GLP/record company and are encouraged to buy the “first pressing” then a few weeks later they release a signed edition. Should know better by now really but really annoys me.
 
I had reached out to @Colonel_Angus privately about this matter as they are someone who's actions I generally respect around here. Hell, he colored my profile picture.

I came away from my private interaction even more concerned about this than I previously had.

So thats why I'm now coming to the rest of the community as I do not believe this is at all how we would like to see how our mod team act and react. And well, when your mod/staff team fails you its time to duscuss it publicly.

Dead C has pointed out again that no, its a public address.

Both @Colonel_Angus (perhaps in a slightly condescending way) and @Kris both doubled down on the decision.

I've since shown that its not only a public address but certainly an address for multiple businesses. At which point they stopped replying.

I thought that seemed odd as I'd hope our mod team would be willing to learn and discuss things in public. Especially when we know at least one mod had threatened a banishment over the(now shown to be a non) issue.

So I asked @Colonel_Angus about it privately, which you can see the full response below.

This was how he responded, which I found concerning. A mod/staff was willing to double down publicly, but in light of new evidence refuses to respond publicly.

I find this to be quite problematic.
As someone not involved in any of this my own take is that personally I just don’t think it’s ever a good idea to start posting up peoples addresses. End of. That’s just my opinion. For whatever reason.
if your own address was publicly available then posting it onto an Internet forum of relative strangers could be viewed as a bit dicey. Whatever peoples motivations.
lots of information about people is “publicly available” but that doesn’t mean we would all like it posted up.
It wasn’t like it was some master criminal being outed.
this is a forum for vinyl pre-orders. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I think folks need to dial it all back.
order some vinyl. Get some music. Listen to music. Enjoy.
JUST MY OPINION.
 
Only a few observations to make and nothing that should be too controversial. On the address, I think it's easy to appreciate why it was removed and even if it's deemed appropriate later, it's still a good place for mods to err on while getting more information. That said it came as a result of someone trying to uproot one of the companies that see this forum as a business opportunity as opposed to a community. I think going in on someone for that under the banner of "doxxing" is a little strict, speaking as someone who has been actually doxxed and harassed in the past.

Big brain take perhaps but ultimately if businesses don't want details of their business being posted they could just not choose to use this place solely as an advertising board for their store. If moderators/admins want people less defensive over this and the site in general, then they could aim to monitor and moderate those accounts in place of regular members feeling the need to do so. There seems to be an understood line around acceptable and enjoyed interaction between businesses here so if that was actioned against we might avoid similar circumstances in the future?

Seemingly to the benefit of the forum when it means removing bias around deal/variant links being posted and members here feeling like their community isn't seen as a vector to exploit for profit. Something you imagine would only become more attractive to those outside as this place grows.
 
Nature of the game now it seems but it’s annoying to order as soon as you hear about those direct from GLP/record company and are encouraged to buy the “first pressing” then a few weeks later they release a signed edition. Should know better by now really but really annoys me.

This is just a Grimeys thing. Since lots of artists live here and Grimeys has relationships with lots of them. The artists will sometimes offer to sign records and let Grimeys sell them. They used to do a ton of in stores with artists and they would let you get your record signed after but since Covid is happening they are just selling more signed versions.
 
We are experiencing a heatwave this weekend. The first one of the year on the coast (we had the first one back in June inland but inside the 495 quarador the sea breeze kept us in the 70s).

Manny beaches will only be open to local residence this weekend. For example this decision comes for Gloucester more over traffic than COVID concerns health concerns. Might be due to people being pent up inside for months, but more people than ever have been hitting the beaches this summer. And Gloucester residence have been complaining about increased traffic. The closure of beaches in Gloucester to non Gloucester residence is to mitigate the traffic issues. Not because they are concerned that people are going to spread COVID-19.

In RI, beaches were closed this weekend to non RI residence. Data from 2016 shows that more than 50% of visitors to RI beaches are from out of state.

Maine is still requiring a 14 day quarantine for out of staters visiting. So no day trips to beaches in Maine.

The top beaches in MA are still open, but you have to reserve your spot and parking online ahead of time. Tickets for the weekend are released every Thursday at noon and sell out almost immediately. It's like winning the lottery securing a pass. The beach is closed to all who don't already have a pre-paid pass.
 
We are experiencing a heatwave this weekend. The first one of the year on the coast (we had the first one back in June inland but inside the 495 quarador the sea breeze kept us in the 70s).

Manny beaches will only be open to local residence this weekend. For example this decision comes for Gloucester more over traffic than COVID concerns health concerns. Might be due to people being pent up inside for months, but more people than ever have been hitting the beaches this summer. And Gloucester residence have been complaining about increased traffic. The closure of beaches in Gloucester to non Gloucester residence is to mitigate the traffic issues. Not because they are concerned that people are going to spread COVID-19.

In RI, beaches were closed this weekend to non RI residence. Data from 2016 shows that more than 50% of visitors to RI beaches are from out of state.

Maine is still requiring a 14 day quarantine for out of staters visiting. So no day trips to beaches in Maine.

The top beaches in MA are still open, but you have to reserve your spot and parking online ahead of time. Tickets for the weekend are released every Thursday at noon and sell out almost immediately. It's like winning the lottery securing a pass. The beach is closed to all who don't already have a pre-paid pass.
So you could say that a lot more people have pre ordered COVID?

Think you might be in the wrong thread with this... LOL.
 
As someone not involved in any of this my own take is that personally I just don’t think it’s ever a good idea to start posting up peoples addresses. End of. That’s just my opinion. For whatever reason.
if your own address was publicly available then posting it onto an Internet forum of relative strangers could be viewed as a bit dicey. Whatever peoples motivations.
lots of information about people is “publicly available” but that doesn’t mean we would all like it posted up.
It wasn’t like it was some master criminal being outed.
this is a forum for vinyl pre-orders. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I think folks need to dial it all back.
order some vinyl. Get some music. Listen to music. Enjoy.
JUST MY OPINION.

What if it was the address of the business that was posting though?
 
What if it was the address of the business that was posting though?
Why would we need to know? Who cares if it is? Take it up with the mods directly or take it off line amongst the folks that really seem to be raging about it all?
It’s a community that belongs to all that use it. All the backslapping when whoever it was that was outed is just pointless.
I just wanna come on here and see preorders.
let’s not lose sight of the fact it’s about buying some records and listening to some music.

Tbh I don’t even know what the whole debate was about. Because I - like many others- switched off and skipped it.
if someone is saying “hey does anyone know the address of Bullmoose Records?” Then of course no issue.
Sticking up what someone thinks may or may
Not be an address of a company or something for some “outing” reason is just a load of “so what”.
I have zero idea about cliques or mods or who thinks they run this board or who wants to be a folk hero to people or how any of this works but I just want to see posts about some cool records.
before you know it it’ll be like Twitter where people start posting folks work addresses up and getting people to complain directly to them.
 
Why would we need to know? Who cares if it is? Take it up with the mods directly or take it off line amongst the folks that really seem to be raging about it all?
It’s a community that belongs to all that use it. All the backslapping when whoever it was that was outed is just pointless.
I just wanna come on here and see preorders.
let’s not lose sight of the fact it’s about buying some records and listening to some music.

Tbh I don’t even know what the whole debate was about. Because I - like many others- switched off and skipped it.
if someone is saying “hey does anyone know the address of Bullmoose Records?” Then of course no issue.
Sticking up what someone thinks may or may
Not be an address of a company or something for some “outing” reason is just a load of “so what”.
I have zero idea about cliques or mods or who thinks they run this board or who wants to be a folk hero to people or how any of this works but I just want to see posts about some cool records.
before you know it it’ll be like Twitter where people start posting folks work addresses up and getting people to complain directly to them.
You’re missing the point. And that’s fine for you but don’t think that your paradigm is equally applicable.

The back slapping is sufficient evidence that some of us want a tight knit community of people we trust to be authentic, make trades with, AND to post about some cool records. The issue here is that someone posed as just another one of us in order to infiltrate the group for business purposes. Businesses are welcome here as well as members who happen to be in or run businesses aimed at our demographic. We have a reasonable expectation they be above board about that fact. Violating that trust deserved outing. In this case the line of proof happened to include an address.

How that last point was handled has been called into question but is really indicative of bigger questions about what our long term leadership structure and policy might look like. Those of us invested in the community aspect are effectively making sure that you still have a place to come see posts about some cool records in the future.
 
You’re missing the point. And that’s fine for you but don’t think that your paradigm is equally applicable.

The back slapping is sufficient evidence that some of us want a tight knit community of people we trust to be authentic, make trades with, AND to post about some cool records. The issue here is that someone posed as just another one of us in order to infiltrate the group for business purposes. Businesses are welcome here as well as members who happen to be in or run businesses aimed at our demographic. We have a reasonable expectation they be above board about that fact. Violating that trust deserved outing. In this case the line of proof happened to include an address.

How that last point was handled has been called into question but is really indicative of bigger questions about what our long term leadership structure and policy might look like. Those of us invested in the community aspect are effectively making sure that you still have a place to come see posts about some cool records in the future.
All very fair points. And I mean no disrespect but when you read back at some of the language you use about “leadership structures”, “policy”, “infiltrating the group”. It’s not the Masons Or the bilderberg group here y’know? It’s just some folks talking about records. i get what you’re saying but surely we need to all dial it back a bit.
Anyway, Thanks for looking out for us all. I am stepping out of this now.
Thanks for the fair replies, as it should be. 👍🏻
 
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