Record cleaning - what's your method?

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Analogue Seduction is not very good at packing stuff. I also decided to check Highend Electronics again (thanks @HiFi Guy) and saw they had gotten it back in stock (figures) and still have the "buy 1 get 1 free" deal. I added a bottle to see what the shipping cost would be and it was free so i added another bottle for a toal of 4 bottles for $50. I most likely have to pay customs for two of them, at least, but that's still a great deal!

I have a question, though. On the product page, it says mix 100 ml into 1 gallon but on the box it says mix 100 ml into 0,9 liters. That's gotta be a mistake, right? Mixing the entire bottle of concentrate into just 0,9 liters won't produce a whole lot of cleaning fluids.

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The Denmarkian Wonder said:
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Analogue Seduction is not very good at packing stuff. I also decided to check Highend Electronics again (thanks @HiFi Guy) and saw they had gotten it back in stock (figures) and still have the "buy 1 get 1 free" deal. I added a bottle to see what the shipping cost would be and it was free so i added another bottle for a toal of 4 bottles for $50. I most likely have to pay customs for two of them, at least, but that's still a great deal!

I have a question, though. On the product page, it says mix 100 ml into 1 gallon but on the box it says mix 100 ml into 0,9 liters. That's gotta be a mistake, right? Mixing the entire bottle of concentrate into just 0,9 liters won't produce a whole lot of cleaning fluids.

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It’s one bottle into 1 gallon.
 
A couple noob questions about Tergi-Kleen for anybody that knows more about it

1. Why does they say to rinse off the tergi-kleen with distilled water after cleaning it?

2. Wouldn’t the residual TergiKleen be left on your pad or basin? It’s not practical to use a new pad or entire new water basin after every cleaning.

3. If the answer to number 1 is that tergi-kleen can be damaging to the wax if left on then wouldn’t distilled water NOT be able to reach deep into the groove where the tergi-kleen is resting? That the whole reason they add alcohol in mixtures right?
 
Tys1 said:
A couple noob questions about Tergi-Kleen for anybody that knows more about it

1. Why does they say to rinse off the tergi-kleen with distilled water after cleaning it?

2. Wouldn’t the residual TergiKleen be left on your pad or basin? It’s not practical to use a new pad or entire new water basin after every cleaning.

3. If the answer to number 1 is that tergi-kleen can be damaging to the wax if left on then wouldn’t distilled water NOT be able to reach deep into the groove where the tergi-kleen is resting? That the whole reason they add alcohol in mixtures right?
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Fluids that recommend a rinse do so because the fluid leaves a residue. Another go around with a dedicated pad just for the rinse should remove any residue.

I wouldn’t worry about residual cleaning fluid on the secondary rinse equipment. The vast majority of what will be present is fresh water.

Alcohol is mostly used as a cleaning agent. It’s good at removing oily fingerprints from mishandled albums. It’s also harsh, and I avoid it.
 
HiFi Guy said:
Fluids that recommend a rinse do so because the fluid leaves a residue. Another go around with a dedicated pad just for the rinse should remove any residue.

I wouldn’t worry about residual cleaning fluid on the secondary rinse equipment. The vast majority of what will be present is fresh water.

Alcohol is mostly used as a cleaning agent. It’s good at removing oily fingerprints from mishandled albums. It’s also harsh, and I avoid it.
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Thanks so much!
 
UK folks with scruffy records... The ebay project deal is back again

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Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU Premium Cleaning Machine | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU Premium Cleaning Machine at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products!
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£75 quid off with the code so the VC-S would be £429 minus £75 (plus an extra 1% via Top Cashback)
 
Rowan said:
UK folks with scruffy records... The ebay project deal is back again

www.ebay.co.uk

Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU Premium Cleaning Machine | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU Premium Cleaning Machine at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products!
www.ebay.co.uk

£75 quid off with the code so the VC-S would be £429 minus £75 (plus an extra 1% via Top Cashback)
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@Gavaxeman
 
Rowan said:
UK folks with scruffy records... The ebay project deal is back again

www.ebay.co.uk

Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU Premium Cleaning Machine | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU Premium Cleaning Machine at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products!
www.ebay.co.uk

£75 quid off with the code so the VC-S would be £429 minus £75 (plus an extra 1% via Top Cashback)
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Im sure theres a few of us that can now share opinions on it.

For my part, its completely changed the way I listen to my records. The majority of the records I buy are second (or third or fourth...) hand its likely that they have never been cleaned before. In the past I would just wipe them down with a damp cloth, use cleaning fluid and hand dry, or just not clean them at all. Of the ones I have cleaned (which is every record I have listened to since getting the machine) there hasn't been a single case of static noise. Pops, clicks and surface noise have drastically been reduced and in some cases completely eradicated. In fact, its also opened my eyes to just how full of gunk and debris new records are when they first arrive too.

All in all its well worth it in my opinion. The only thing I would flag as potential negatives are the bottle which comes with it having an open top (tricky to control the pour) and that the platter has 'dropped' a few times. The bottle is an easy and cheap fix (I bought a sauce bottle with a spout) and the tube that the platter is connected to had a screw that you can loosen/tighten to adjust the height. I have been using the machine heavily and have had to reposition the height a few times since, but its not really that much of a problem and only takes a couple of minutes to do.
 
Selaws said:
Im sure theres a few of us that can now share opinions on it.

For my part, its completely changed the way I listen to my records. The majority of the records I buy are second (or third or fourth...) hand its likely that they have never been cleaned before. In the past I would just wipe them down with a damp cloth, use cleaning fluid and hand dry, or just not clean them at all. Of the ones I have cleaned (which is every record I have listened to since getting the machine) there hasn't been a single case of static noise. Pops, clicks and surface noise have drastically been reduced and in some cases completely eradicated. In fact, its also opened my eyes to just how full of gunk and debris new records are when they first arrive too.

All in all its well worth it in my opinion. The only thing I would flag as potential negatives are the bottle which comes with it having an open top (tricky to control the pour) and that the platter has 'dropped' a few times. The bottle is an easy and cheap fix (I bought a sauce bottle with a spout) and the tube that the platter is connected to had a screw that you can loosen/tighten to adjust the height. I have been using the machine heavily and have had to reposition the height a few times since, but its not really that much of a problem and only takes a couple of minutes to do.
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A few of us keep saying it, but a record cleaning device is just as important as a phono stage, especially if you buy used vinyl.........although, as you mentioned, new vinyl isn't much better now a days ;)
 
AnthonyI said:
A few of us keep saying it, but a record cleaning device is just as important as a phono stage, especially if you buy used vinyl.........although, as you mentioned, new vinyl isn't much better now a days ;)
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It's one of those things that I have always known I should be doing properly but needed the push to justify buying a machine to do so (which the discount essentially was). I always knew a proper clean on a decent machine would give better results, I just didn't realise how much better those results would be.

Makes me wish I had invested years ago, although I now have the opportunity to hear before and after which in a lot of cases provides shockingly different before/after results.
 
Selaws said:
It's one of those things that I have always known I should be doing properly but needed the push to justify buying a machine to do so (which the discount essentially was). I always knew a proper clean on a decent machine would give better results, I just didn't realise how much better those results would be.

Makes me wish I had invested years ago, although I now have the opportunity to hear before and after which in a lot of cases provides shockingly different before/after results.
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Totally agree. Decided to listen to an album last night and as it was after 8 I just couldn't be arsed to clean it first. After about 2 tracks I took it off and ran it through the VC-S. I'd almost forgotten how colicky, poppy and generally staticcy a new, out of packet album could sound. At the price we paid its the bargain of the year for me.
 
Rowan said:
Totally agree. Decided to listen to an album last night and as it was after 8 I just couldn't be arsed to clean it first. After about 2 tracks I took it off and ran it through the VC-S. I'd almost forgotten how colicky, poppy and generally staticcy a new, out of packet album could sound. At the price we paid its the bargain of the year for me.
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Same, love mine.

My approach is slightly different as I’m batch cleaning pre-move, but there is a definite difference once cleaned.
 
What's the verdict on cleaning fluid? I'll probably run out of the fluid that came with the Project VCS soon, I think it's really good but is there anything better out there?

Also, any tips on brushes, how often do you need to replace them? Can you clean them easily? is the standard project one as good as it gets?
 
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