Sutherland Club House

ngower said:
It was an old store demo unit, and the plugs into the board are also a tad loose, so I suspect it was just plugged and unplugged a lot. I'm sending the whole thing back to Sutherland hoping they can at least fix the LPS but maybe take a gander at the board just to make sure everything there looks fine.

I only found out about it as sound started fading once while playing and it's because the system was losing power.
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That makes sense. I noticed when I swapped in the LPS today that it takes a minute for the power to drain. I had forgotten about that. Similar to tubes, which is interesting.
 
displayname said:
That makes sense. I noticed when I swapped in the LPS today that it takes a minute for the power to drain. I had forgotten about that. Similar to tubes, which is interesting.
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It’s the size of the transformer in it, it holds current. My big sbooster linear power supply does the same.
 
displayname said:
Decided work can wait a little bit. Only time to A/B with 3 tracks for now.
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The difference isn’t immediate or shocking, but it’s there right away out of the box. I know the 20/20 takes a little time to warm up, and I won’t even dive into the break in debate. I’ll just say this is outright impossible to truly A/B without having two 20/20 units on hand with two matching TTs.

But here’s what I noticed on the first pass:
Drums are faster. More crisp. Very slightly some details come to the foreground more easily, but only because I’ve listened back to back. Things are ever slightly more textured and have a better sense of effortlessness to the power in big swings. Again, these are not shocking differences, but they are there.

First track was Daft Punk - Giorgio by Moroder.
Here is where I noticed the drums just feeling more tight and crisp. Throughout the long interlude the snare drum felt more apparent. Like a full drum kit instead of a driving beat. It seems slightly easier to differentiate the drum kit from the electronic drum beat. Maybe Giorgio’s vocals felt like they were in a larger space. Maybe I was just paying more attention.

I followed this with two tracks by Tracy Chapman: Fast Car and Across the Lines. On Fast Car I more strongly feel that Tracy’s voice is in a larger space. So this upgrade is clearly opening things up a little. Instrumentation largely feels the same, expect strums on the bass feel like they linger a little longer. Impact doesn’t feel particularly stronger, but just a bit more refined, and again that little detail of the trailing note comes more to the forefront. I also find myself noticing the drum kit more again. Maybe it’s just today’s fixation, but I seem to really locking in on that difference after swapping power supplies. Moving to Across the Lines, again it’s the drum detail and space on the vocals that I’m noticing the most immediately. Vocals on this album are always captivating, but I had to let the rest of the album run through.

Again, we’re talking small changes overall here. But there is something to this. Of you’re buying new, just consider it the proper way the system is meant to operate, if you already a 20/20 owner, this wouldn’t be the top of my list, but if other things are buttoned up, then it’s worth the while.
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Does the magnetic field from the power supply impact your CXC? I tuck my Bryston power supply under my stand, on the floor. Nice stand, BTW.
 
Slimwhit33 said:
Thank you both so much!

This looks like it would do the trick? I can’t find any others on eBay in the states..

DB Systems-DB Systems DBP-6 Phono Capacitor Loading Kit-Any|Acoustic Sounds

Acoustic Sounds Audiophile Vinyl Records
store.acousticsounds.com
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Got these today.

After listening to the cart/table for a few days with the loading likely around 150pf, I have now installed the 350pf plug and what a difference in the sound of the V15.. Top end much more detailed and more low end output and grip.

Sounds absolutely fantastic and even better than I previously recall. The 20/20 is certainly helping. Just perfect to my ears. Starting my collection playthrough today. Here’s to a distracted 2025! IMG_6773.jpeg
 
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Slimwhit33 said:
Got these today.

After listening to the cart/table for a few days with the loading likely around 150pf, I have now installed the 350pf plug and what a difference in the sound of the V15.. Top end much more detailed and more low end output and grip.

Sounds absolutely fantastic and even better than I previously recall. The 20/20 is certainly helping. Just perfect to my ears. Starting my collection playthrough today. Here’s to a distracted 2025! View attachment 224289
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Curious about the methodology of the playthrough if that is title one!
 
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