ranbalam
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Ok, good to know. Thanks.
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Bennnnn
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I don’t know how long this new season of True Detective is. And I can’t remember how long the other ones were. 8 episodes maybe?
Krampus' #1 Diaper Baby
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Season 5 of Fargo was great. Cast was fantastic all around.
I loved the final scenes between Ole Munch and Dot and the fam. Ole Munch talking about debt tied together that arching theme of the season well. And Dot's unending optimism to push through with forgiveness v. debt (and Ole Munch's sort of embodiment of capital "D" Debt) was really well done.
Ole Munch is probably up there with V.M. Varga as one of my favorite offbeat characters the show has given us.
Although Dot was probably the most "fun" (if that makes sense) character there has been and had some deep wisdom in her witticisms.
"You gotta eat something made with love and joy....and be forgiven." [You eat that biscuit, Ole Munch, ya sin-eating sonofabitch!]
I loved the final scenes between Ole Munch and Dot and the fam. Ole Munch talking about debt tied together that arching theme of the season well. And Dot's unending optimism to push through with forgiveness v. debt (and Ole Munch's sort of embodiment of capital "D" Debt) was really well done.
Ole Munch is probably up there with V.M. Varga as one of my favorite offbeat characters the show has given us.
Although Dot was probably the most "fun" (if that makes sense) character there has been and had some deep wisdom in her witticisms.
"You gotta eat something made with love and joy....and be forgiven." [You eat that biscuit, Ole Munch, ya sin-eating sonofabitch!]
TenderLovingKiller®
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Yeah, I felt like the ending was a bit of an homage to No Country For Old Men and Anton Chigurh’s final house call.
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Gavaxeman
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Agree it’s brilliant
Hemotep
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I'm so happy Fargo got good again. I've been loving this season. Two episodes to go for us.
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ayayrawn
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I liked this season of Fargo, but didn't love it. It was really entertaining, but I don't think near the level of depth or intrigue as previous seasons. The final scene was great, but not sure I like how a lot of the plotlines ended this season. Some great performances (Temple), some maybe a little hammy for me (Leigh).
Here's how I'd rank the seasons:
One: 10/10
Two: 9/10
Three: 8/10
Four: DNF/10
Five: 7/10
Here's how I'd rank the seasons:
One: 10/10
Two: 9/10
Three: 8/10
Four: DNF/10
Five: 7/10
Bennnnn
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I liked it a lot, but I still also think 1 is the best. Agreed about Jennifer Jason Leigh. Didn’t work for me. Everything else did. The horror-esque atmosphere of some of the episodes were great. And the final scene was perfect. Gonna go back and watch 4. Never did watch it went it aired.
TenderLovingKiller®
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I think it was right up there with the first or second season for me. I found it very entertaining.
and now on to True Detective.
Bull Shannon
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I lost momentum on season 5 maybe 4-5 episodes ago; it was a bit overstuffed yet kinda repetitive (Dot gets in trouble, Dot home-alones her way out of trouble) and verging on silly (see again: home alone). I think especially seeing the praise for JJL (who I typically love but found cat-pettingly, mustache-twirlingly hammy here) got me thinking maybe the show's just not my flavor anymore.
I will finish the season soon now it's over, but my feelings have been muted.
TenderLovingKiller®
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You talk about Home Alone like it’s not an extremely entertaining romp. The whole premise is a cat and mouse game where the mouse has grown into a great white shark. I understand after the gas station and multiple home invasion scenes how it might be a bit repetitive but I enjoy watching someone make bold choices to escape seemingly inescapable situations.
The consensus seems to be that Jennifer Jason Leigh with her over the top Mid-Atlantic accent is too much of a cartoon villain but I enjoyed her performance. She chewed the scenery perfectly and her one on one interactions with individuals are some of my favorite moments.
I think JJL, Hamm, Temple, Richa Moorjani and Joe Keery should all receive Emmy noms though I would be surprised if any actually won.
Jeff Lerner
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Agree. I also think her performance was in part an homage (or at least a nod) to her role in Hudsucker Proxy.
I thought the season was great. The Sheriff Roy stuff was terrifying to me in that I don't think it is outside the realm of believability that a MAGA law enforcement official could essentially form a state-sponsored militia and run amok like that in today's America.
Bull Shannon
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I follow a couple critics on bluesky and their praise of the season has very often included JJL; it's heartening to hear maybe I'm not alone (seriously, there were like two episodes in a row where a near-stranger meets with her and she launches into a monologue about the nature of debt).
I like Home Alone quite well; what trips me up about that style of violence/self-defense showing up in this season of Fargo is there's a tonal mismatch between the very real danger she's facing, the cartoonish nature of the traps, and the very real violence they inflict upon people. I think they glancingly address this when the husband gets electrocuted, but the goofy-violent duality of Dot continues on. When she is simultaneously denying she did anything violent, threatening violence upon the orderlies, then violently dispatching them, I found myself asking "what are we doing here?"
Now this isn't the show's fault per se, but the way it's been hinting at the connection between Dot and Hamm but not revealing anything reminded me of a show I didn't discuss here yet: Fall of the House of Usher. Individual episodes of that show were enjoyable, but as each one passed and the question of "what did the Ushers do to warrant such retribution? (Beyond, you know, running an evil pharmaceutical company)" hovered over everything, the point of the show felt increasingly dependent on the answer to that question. So when they finally pulled back the curtain in the last episode I felt underwhelmed and personally felt it unmoored the entire narrative; while there was a specific incident revealed as the root of their moral rot, the moral rot of their business was the real boogeyman and they'd been smacking me over the head with it every moment of every season.
ayayrawn
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The last scene of the season doesn't retroactively make everything better, but it is still pretty solid.
CroutonBoy
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JJLs performance was almost a note-for-note version of her Hudsucker Proxy role, just slowed down to a lower BPM. But The Hudsucker Proxy is absolutely fantastic and criminally underrated in the Coen brothers filmography so I'm fine with that.
I'd put season 5 of Fargo on par with season 2 (season 1 still rules). Great return to form and agreed that the characters were almost all top notch (even Danish Graves). I liked season 3 but never really bought into Ewan McGregors character(s). Best to pretend season 4 never happened.
Fargo, House of Usher and Slow Horses have been my TV MVPs this winter, with a shout out to Monarch: Legacy of Monsters because I'm a sucker for that stuff.
TenderLovingKiller®
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If anyone is looking for some fun “dad TV”, the season 2 finale of Reacher dropped on Amazon Prime today. This season could be binge over a weekend and you’ll have completely forgotten the entire plot by the time you go back to work on Monday.
Krampus' #1 Diaper Baby
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I've been hearing good things about the new season of True Detective.
I only ever watched the first season - and loved it. But I remember hearing the second season wasn't great and didn't have HBO at the time any way; then, never got around to watching S03 either.
So, as an anthology series, I don't need any of the other seasons to enjoy S04, correct?
As well, would anyone make an argument that season 2/3 are a good watch?
I only ever watched the first season - and loved it. But I remember hearing the second season wasn't great and didn't have HBO at the time any way; then, never got around to watching S03 either.
So, as an anthology series, I don't need any of the other seasons to enjoy S04, correct?
As well, would anyone make an argument that season 2/3 are a good watch?
ranbalam
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You can definitely dive into S4 without prior knowledge, and man, E1 was really good. I'm pretty excited about this season after being lukewarm on S2 and 3.
mdmost
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I feel the first season is really the only required viewing for True Detective. They aren't linked other than maybe loosely which remains to be seen in this season. The 2nd season isn't good and has some of the worst dialogue put out by an otherwise good writer. It had some really good actors but was just a bit of a mess. I hated that because it was set in Southern California and that's a great location that feels like it's hard to screw up a cop drama set in that locale. The 3rd season was good simply because of Mahershala Ali and Stephen Dorff. I enjoyed their dynamic.