The 1001 Album Generator Project Thread

Should we do a group project

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I've never listened to a full solo album by the man. I quite like the Smiths and think he is a talent, but even before the world knew he was a prick, he rubbed me the wrong way. I'll listen and report back.
 
avecigrec said:
It's depressing to know I have at least two more Morrissey albums to slog through...
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If you were just reading through the book and committed to listening to every album, you'd have to slog through them all at once. I'm gonna remain open minded, there is a reason a lot of folks dig his solo stuff and that there are fourish albums on the list. I remember always being impressed with his voice.
 
Hey @Joe Mac

First of all, I'd be interested in your opinion on this album.

Second, what does Jar mean?

First day with the jar
You find
Everyone lies
First day with the jar
You find
Everyone lies, nobody minds
Everyone lies
Where is the man you respect?
And where is the woman you love?
Where's the woman you love?
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Also, this is ironic:
Third week with the jar
You find
Everything dies
We won't vote conservative
Because we never have
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Well his politics are starting to show and he was clearly always insufferable. Like Tomorrow's repeated plea "TELL ME THAT YOU LOVE ME." Nah, bro, it's cool you love yourself more than enough for the rest of the world.

here's the thing though, it is a great voice that finds odd ways around the instrumentation behind him and Ronson and the Smith's like band produce a very appealing Glam sound. The problem is Morrissey.

I could listen to this all day long if it all didn't start to become distasteful around the end of "We'll Let You Know" peaking at a feverish rate with "We Hate It..."

Such talent wasted. ugh.

At least other seemingly insufferable front men like Sting and Bono aren't showcasing the worst of humanity. And while Father John Misty may (I italicize because I am incredulous) be doing it all as a show, it is clear now that there was no facade or affectation here, Morrissey was telling us all about himself.

He's clever. He's talented. He's also the worst of us.
 
Lee Newman said:
Which version of You'll Never Walk Alone is the version for Arsenal?
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That’s a Liverpool and or Celtic song.

Morrissey isn’t really a football fan I’d guess but he did sorta claim to be a United fan because George Best, the imagery alone fits to be fair, and he wrote Munich Air Diaster 58 about that tragic team.

He also played at being a West Ham fan when he went though his cockney gangster phase.
 
Joe Mac said:
That’s a Liverpool and or Celtic song.

Morrissey isn’t really a football fan I’d guess but he did sorta claim to be a United fan because George Best, the imagery alone fits to be fair, and he wrote Munich Air Diaster 58 about that tragic team.

He also played at being a West Ham fan when he went though his cockney gangster phase.
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I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ANY OF THIS MEANS AND I AM NOW SORRY I ASKED.
 
So @Lee Newman

Morrissey in general.

Never been anywhere near as big a Morrissey as a Smiths fan. Got into the Smiths around the turn of the millennium at 17 and loved it from the off. It’s remarkable that they released 4 studio albums in 5 years, countless non album singles and the only song I think isn’t good is Golden Lights, and it’s not bad bad either.

Didn’t find solo Morrissey until he had his first redemptive comeback in 04 with Irish Blood, English Heart and the album You Are The Quarry.

I really love that album and his debut Viva Hate (bar the one track that probably wasn’t viewed as being so problematic 35 years ago but in hindsight, and him being him, now definitely is). I’m not as familiar with this one, despite owning it and knowing it’s well regarded, beyond the singles.

His initial run of singles is outrageously strong, I think there are 6 or 7 straight that are just bang bang bang masterpieces. For that reasons I’d say the only real “essential” solo record is not a studio album, it’s Bona Drag being a collection of those singles, a good few of which were non album, and a few other bits from around then.

One thing I will say is that in his early solo phase he played with a sort of traditional and parochial English “end of the pier” humour and that lots of it is very tongue in cheek. I can see that it wouldn’t necessarily translate 100%. We have also, and particularly in the late 80s and early 90s, very different attitudes to humour and what is a ok to joke about than you guys necessarily do. I think it might come from, and I see this in reactions to certain debates now, a culture of individualism and individual rights your side of the ocean and perhaps a culture, that’s moving that way since Thatcher, but was traditionally more built around ideas that trended more towards community or collective rights. None of that is a reference to, or an excuse for, the far right stuff though!

As for “the jar”. Not 100% but I’m guessing it’s “on the booze”? Going for a few jars is one of the many many different ways of saying that you’re off drinking.
 
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