Vinyl Me Please Anthology

avecigrec said:
False scarcity is definitely bullshit.
But so is false advertising.

I'd rather they print the shit out of anything that has a demand, but I can also understand someone being frustrated when they are sold something "exclusive that suddenly isn't.
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This.

Whomever wants the music should be able to get the music. I'm not for the limited bullshit. But if you ARE going to have a limited run then you owe it to your customers regardless if you think extra money can be made to not make your customers feel swindled.

It's like buying a car that supposed to have only have a handful ever made, then you drive down the street and see 4. You got duped.
 
MikeH said:
this is why I don’t have any interest in buying flipper copies of the anthologies. VMP represses stuff or things eventually seem to get individual broken out releases
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My annoyance about this (and the huge price markups) was why I eventually wound up just getting the herbie hancock discography on CD instead of doing the vmp anthology.
 
I'm not sure if they'd mentioned it in the past, but I know the Willie anthology is saying "First edition limited to 1,500 on exclusive 180g colored vinyl..." I'm ok with represses when they share this up front. If they haven't said they're repressing, the least they could do is pick some different colors.
 
hayema7 said:
I'm not sure if they'd mentioned it in the past, but I know the Willie anthology is saying "First edition limited to 1,500 on exclusive 180g colored vinyl..." I'm ok with represses when they share this up front. If they haven't said they're repressing, the least they could do is pick some different colors.
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I wouldn't even do a colour variant for the subsequent runs.

First pressing: numbered, coloured and maybe even throw the numbering on a certificate of authenticity.
Anything else just no frills black boxed set.

Ideally you shouldn't be able to lump in your second run off the discogs listing of the first.
 
bdrummond said:
I wouldn't even do a colour variant for the subsequent runs.

First pressing: numbered, coloured and maybe even throw the numbering on a certificate of authenticity.
Anything else just no frills black boxed set.

Ideally you shouldn't be able to lump in your second run off the discogs listing of the first.
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I like that idea a lot. It does make the first run seem more valuable to collectors, but those who are good with the black wax are able to get the box as well.
 
bdrummond said:
Because some people treat collecting as an investment rather than just listening to the music, so when a company says something is "limited" those people view it as something that can possibly appreciate in value, only to find out that it's not so limited after all.

I'm not saying it's a good approach to vinyl collecting, but I can definitely see why saying something is "limited" when that's just not the case is pretty shitty for some.
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Here's a general rule.

EVERYTHING released on vinyl is a Limited Edition. There are no infinite, unlimited pressings. A pressing may stay around for years due to slow sales, but eventually, they run out. Numbering on a sleeve is meaningless. There for those with a fetish for such, maybe it validates their purchase.

MOST things that are Limited can have reprsses if demand is there. That is doing a total solid to every music lover who wants to get their hands on it. If it hurts 'vinyl investors' or flippers, fuck 'em. Too bad.

Music Matters has done it, probably the most egregious example. Acoustic Sounds does it all the time. MOFI repress their top titles. VMP does it rather less.

I don't look at my Discogs value and get all horny when I see it rising. That was never what collecting music is about.

I am THRILLED when a great title gets repressed for more people to enjoy at a fair price. That is good for everyone, as it keeps interest in the music/hobby high. And defeating the flippers and investors is good for me, and most people. It helps keep prices reasonable and discourages excessive price gouging on the secondary market.
 
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RHANDMJ said:
Here's a general rule.

EVERYTHING released on vinyl is a Limited Edition. There are no infinite, unlimited pressings. A pressing may stay around for years due to slow sales, but eventually, they run out. Numbering on a sleeve is meaningless. There for those with a fetish for such, maybe it validates their purchase.

MOST things that are Limited can have reprsses if demand is there. That is doing a total solid to every music lover who wants to get their hands on it. If it hurts 'vinyl investors' or flippers, fuck 'em. Too bad.

Music Matters has done it, probably the most egregious example. Acoustic Sounds does it all the time. MOFI repress their top titles. VMP does it rather less.

I don't look at my Discogs value and get all horny when I see it rising. That was never what collecting music is about.

I am THRILLED when a great title gets repressed for more people to enjoy at a fair price. That is good for everyone, as it keeps interest in the music/hobby high. And defeating the flippers and investors is good for me, and most people. It helps keep prices reasonable and discourages excessive price gouging on the secondary market.
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No. That is not a general rule. That is your own thoughts, and you're entitled to them, just as people who think they've purchased something that they thought was limited to a certain number are entitled to feel scammed when a lot more become available, regardless what company does it.
 
RHANDMJ said:
Here's a general rule.

EVERYTHING released on vinyl is a Limited Edition. There are no infinite, unlimited pressings. A pressing may stay around for years due to slow sales, but eventually, they run out. Numbering on a sleeve is meaningless. There for those with a fetish for such, maybe it validates their purchase.

MOST things that are Limited can have reprsses if demand is there. That is doing a total solid to every music lover who wants to get their hands on it. If it hurts 'vinyl investors' or flippers, fuck 'em. Too bad.

Music Matters has done it, probably the most egregious example. Acoustic Sounds does it all the time. MOFI repress their top titles. VMP does it rather less.

I don't look at my Discogs value and get all horny when I see it rising. That was never what collecting music is about.

I am THRILLED when a great title gets repressed for more people to enjoy at a fair price. That is good for everyone, as it keeps interest in the music/hobby high. And defeating the flippers and investors is good for me, and most people. It helps keep prices reasonable and discourages excessive price gouging on the secondary market.
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Are you trying to troll?

Yeah we better be careful otherwise those Beatles and Led Zep albums may run out because they're not infinite.....

I'm thrilled when great music is repressed all the time. But I also don't want t pay a premium for a limited product that isn't limited.
 
bdrummond said:
No. That is not a general rule. That is your own thoughts, and you're entitled to them, just as people who think they've purchased something that they thought was limited to a certain number are entitled to feel scammed when a lot more become available, regardless what company does it.
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I get the sense that you are a collector who is very into the value. That word 'entitled'.
 
RHANDMJ said:
I get the sense that you are a collector who is very into the value. That word 'entitled'.
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Dude, I get the sense that you exist solely to be contrarian. Twice in two weeks is impressive.
I enjoy the music, not that it's actually any of your business. But arguing in favor of a corporation saying one thing, then pulling the rug out from underneath paying customers is going to get you knocked down a peg every time. I'll always be against companies pulling a fast one, irregardless of whether it affects me or not.
 
bdm105 said:
Are you trying to troll?

Yeah we better be careful otherwise those Beatles and Led Zep albums may run out because they're not infinite.....

I'm thrilled when great music is repressed all the time. But I also don't want t pay a premium for a limited product that isn't limited.
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You may not have interacted with @RHANDMJ much before, but they are always trolling. Abrasive and dismissive of other’s opinions. Don’t let it get to you.
 
Urbs_hott said:
You may not have interacted with @RHANDMJ much before, but they are always trolling. Abrasive and dismissive of other’s opinions. Don’t let it get to you.
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Yeah I figured as much. I've been on the internet long enough to spot a troll. This forum tends to be free of them which is why it's a nice site
 
4080 said:
*limited* to 1000

www.vinylmeplease.com

The Story of Zamrock 2nd Edition

Told through 8 rare Zambian garage rock albums — curated by Now-Again Records, Strawberry Rain Music and VMP.
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Don't forget the new box design*.

*Designed to cover their ass when people complain about buying a supposed limited to 1000 product. "See, it's different! Look at the box!"

This whole thing is stupid. The music is great, so let's just sell it and stop there. Don't try to sell it as limited if you're just going to tweak the design and sell a whole bunch more.
 
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