Was talking more in terms of breaking the scene and opening the door than direct inspiration. I’d argue The Libertines were just too English in pretty much every way to have been musically influenced by either of those.
I have the original uk release since it came out too, less impressive here though seeing as I was living there at the time
My kids now know the Roots because of Jimmy Fallon and Sesame Street skits and I think that is pretty awesome.The Roots are one of those groups where once you scratch the surface you soon realize they have been so so so influential in the world of music. They have guided, produced, and assisted a crazy amount of now renown musicians including Erykah Badu, Common, D'Angelo (Voodoo won a Grammy), Jay-Z, Amy Winehouse, John Legend, Elvis Costello, Slum Village, etc. They have also worked on films and broadway shows, most notably 'Hamilton' (where The Roots are credited as producers). This is all before we even mention their own albums.
They have released 11 studio albums (9 of which ranked within the top 5 US R&B Charts, and 7 breaking the top 20 US Charts) 2EP's, and 3 collaborative albums (2 breaking the top 20 US Charts). They have 3 Grammy's (not including the Grammy won for Hamilton) plus countless other awards. Their live shows are constantly ranked as being amongst the best in the world, and the critical reviews match this claim. Its difficult to state their net worth from music alone, but Black Thought has a net value of $12Million and Questlove had $16Million. Its more than likely that a considerable chunk of this stems from their albums. I would also add that they are one of those groups where you may struggle to name a song by them, but they actually have a load of instantly recognizable songs.
I completely agree with you that a lot of people will only know them as 'Jimmy Fallon's House Band', but the reason they were offered that role is BECAUSE of their already stellar career. In fact, when first approaching them with the offe, Fallon completely expected to be turned down by them, and it wasn't until Questlove turned the corner to see Fallon and the rest of the Roots messing around (they were on the floor making a human pyramid) that they agreed to be part of it (they thought it would be a good platform to remove the pressures of their other work and just play around).
This was a actually a fun exercise
IMO they did with indie rock what Nirvana did with Alternate rock. The Strokes were a paradigm shifting movement that was both critically lauded and (relatively) mainstream. Things they had done had been done before and there were groups out there doing interesting things in rock music during the early 2000s but the music on the radio and MTV2 at the time that was “Rock” was mook rock Staind, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Puddle of Mudd bullshit. The Strokes were young and fucking cool. Their music was a pallet cleanser. They made some outstanding music. I was also in college at the time but my musical interest was more in line with acoustic folk and jam band type stuff. Which is fine but mostly irrelevant. Then in a short succession I had a friend introduce me to Pitchfork and The Strokes, The White Stripes and Ryan Adams all happened. This pulled me into the indie rock world hard, it opened the door for the whole NYC/Brooklyn/UK indie rock movement and while it wasn’t as profound as other rock movement in the past, it had a major impact on my musical life interests moving forward. I remember seeing all the hype build for The Strokes at the time and thinking this is gonna be contrived and phony, a bunch of spoiled rich kids making rock music. I think I actively went out of to ignore them initially but I’d be lying if I said my interest wasn’t piqued. Then I finally broke down and listen to Is This It I remember being almost disappointed that it was so fucking great, I was hoping I’d hate it but I couldn’t deny how catchy and cool it all was. I would guess the people that didn’t get The Strokes at the time were either in a good place with their own musical interests at the time (I was not) or a bit too old to get excited about ANOTHER rock revival. All of that makes total sense and is fine but for me The Strokes were an awesome band AND the tip of the spear into a larger musical landscape.
I don´t think i experienced it that way over here. i think they had relatively little influence on the mainstream in Germany. my Friends who were into alt-rock knew them, the rest would probably dance to last night at a Student Party once in a while put probably would not have been able to even tell you the name of the band.
One day -- maybe tomorrow, maybe fifteen years from now -- you will come around on the Hip.
Yeah...I did hate it lol. I didn't like The Strokes, The White Stripes, or any of that early Indie-Rock scene. When the pop overlords got ahold of it, I enjoyed it a little more. For example, I liked Phoenix, Franz Ferdinand, and the Killers. But maybe I'll like it more now. I dunno. I'm currently somewhere in 1976-1979 in my New-to-Me/Music-Re-evaluation/whatever, so I might like it when I get up to the 2000s. I kinda doubt it though, because I really didn't connect with the garage band stuff in the 60s (for example, I'm not a fan of the Kinks), and it seems like that particular 2000s indie-rock was tapping that vein hard. But I dunno!
