Vinyl Me Please Essentials

It's impossible for the essentials sub to cater to everyone every month, and although we've already established "essentials" is a dumb name for the track, if there was an album of his that would fit the name it's this one.

Except, it feels like we're working backwards here. It's like going to a "classic Italian" restaurant that starts loading the menu with low end cheesburgers and hard shell tacos and then saying, "well... we can agree that this shouldn't be advertised as an Italian restaurant, but..." The thing is that it IS advertised that way. Just because it doesn't hit the mark, doesn't mean we should accept and redefine that for them. "I ordered the baked ziti and got a quesadilla, but I like quesadillas. It's cool." These are supposed to be essentials. Just because there is a Rap & Hip Hop track and a Classics track full of jazz and blues, doesn't mean Essentials isn't still supppsed to be essentials. It's still advertised as albums they believe everyone needs to own.

With the logic that it won't appeal to everyone, we also have to consider the fact that rap isn't going to appeal to everyone and that jazz isn't going to appeal to everyone. Those genre specific tracks are being looked almost as a way to support the idea that it isn't as important for an Essentials pick to be all that essential, but it kind of makes the opposite case in my opinion. Not everyone is that eclectic. They know what RHH and Classics represent and don't subscribe to them. It is, however, accepted that titles from those genres will bleed into the main track, if they are deemed essential. That's how the curation works. On the other hand, we know rap just has to be rap. Nobody is gonna make the case that Honest is "essential;" it just gets a pass for technically falling within the category.

Now imagine if the side tracks weren't there and it was like things used to be with only the main track. Imagine no Sahara and no Prince Among Thieves. No swaps. And this month is just John Mayer. That's this month for this club. That's what represents them this month as a club. Continuum. You look to VMP this month and it's represented by this. It IS still like that for some people.

Of course we know we have these swaptions and now even the credit swap, available. But look at it as the choice just based on this being what they've determined was an Essential pick for everyone. They press more of Essentials for a reason. Everytime some shit goes wrong on drop day, people defend VMP by pointing out that a large portion -- perhaps even the majority -- of subscribers don't even fuck with swaps. They just subscribe to Essentials and let it ride.

Cases can be made for Stevie Nicks and for White Stripes, and definitely for Aretha, as "essentials," whether you are a fan or not. The other case often made is that people are in the club for their curation. John Mayer?

Does anyone remember when St Vincent or Moses Sumney were released and VMP addressed the choice to drop new albums as their essential ROTM by claiming they'd heard them in advance and determined they were just that good and deserved that status -- debatable, yes, but they still felt the need to fight for that case. Will they fight for that case here, or just say, "well... a lot of people will like it. It will sell"? Is it fair to still question if they missed the mark? Is this an Essential pick? I see a lot of people who are cool with this pick or fine with this pick. Is anyone in here really excited about it? But maybe the underlying question is really if we believe that they really believe in it.

I think this one is worse than Moby and I might be completely wrong about the significance, because it just sounded like derivative throw away material when it came out and I ignored it. Maybe there is some cultural significance or something innovative I have no awaremess of. The Moby selection might not be a great choice in a lot of minds -- I admit that I didn't get it -- but it's relevance was still there. It changed things in music for better or worse. It introduced folks to electronic music, or even largely instrumental music, that otherwise wouldn't entertain the idea at a time when MTV and corporate radio was still a primary source of music discovery.

That seems like a lot to type for a pick that I'm indifferent on and won't really affect me, but I am curious about if everyone believes that we should keep working to redefine VMP's product and service for them when they continue to sell and promote it another way only to fall short.

Who here is really excited about this and, if you are, would you make the case this is an essential own? I'm genuinely curious. I'm also interested to see the VMP write up arguing that case.

Right now doesn't really feel like the best time to try and sell a blues and soul influenced album by pop star who claimed his dick was a white supremacist and dropped the N word in an interview, claiming he had a "hood pass" simply based on the fact that he's an appropriater. That one is going to be more difficult to defend than just releasing an unexciting essentials pick. I wonder if they'll even acknowledge it.
 
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I still need to pick up Crash and Under the Table and Dreaming on wax actually. But idk what the hold up has been with BTCS.

Edit: actually nvm I was just reading some awful reviews about the pressings.
 
Gonna go ahead and commit N&G social suicide and say I for one am enjoying this essentials pick and find it to be a far more enjoyable listen than Belladonna, that to me was just an unremarkable bore. With that being said, I love you all, don’t hurt me.
I'm with you on Bella Donna, but not on Mayer.

I did realize I had a copy of Bella Donna in my "to goodwill" pile and I guess because of all the excitement here, I'm considering filing it back in the collection.
 
Yeah, I just can’t get into that Moby album either! It’s just not for me at all! ❌

It really does just sound like music that was made for car commercial ads 😂

The commercialization of that album has even greater cultural implications considering where he pulled the samples from and constructed its backbone.


In this article, the author includes the following quote from "departed ethnomusicologist and cultural historian Tim Haslett"

"White Americans are actually terrified of Black
music’s aesthetic, political, and affective power. It is as if they understand
that for Black people, including artists, music is not a recreational activity,
it is a way of life and often a means of survival. It has to arrive via a white
mediator in order to be absorbed without damaging whiteness. This mediation
process is evident in the… success of the electronic artist, Moby."
 
I’ve been really well Kyuuji! Life has been really good! I feel like I’ve been learning so much interesting things lately! 📚📊🔍 How have you been lately?

Sorry for the late reply today, I had to quickly get ready because I was heading out for brunch with my cousins! 🤪🏃‍♂️💨

Yeah, I totally feel you right now! My bounce was also knocked over when I had to cancel my trip and everything! ⛔

That sucks so much with the turntable being broken! Omg, that’s so inconvenient, but I love how you just think about the wonderful times you had with it! I recently had trouble with my turntable before (the tonearm/tracking couldn’t play halfway into the vinyl, like it would just start skipping on every vinyl around halfway through the tracking) but it’s looking good now! 🙏💆‍♂️👍

That’s so cool you used to be a fan of John Mayer’s Continuum! I’m guessing you’ll pick this up then!?! 😁💡

Yeah, would be disappointing if John Mayer does have strong ties to the right wing, but it also seems like his mentality has changed! 🤷‍♂️ Not sure but, who knows! I mean, I like Kanye West and he likes Donald Trump 🦆, so it’s like “hmmmm 🥴”!

I didn't read this comment, but I do believe you possess a unique talent to produce the internet comment equivalent of the Lisa Frank collection. It's a form of visual art.
 
i think i partially defend this mostly because i still in a weird way love VMP... i am a tsundere for them sure, i hate their practices of FOMO and how they often miss the mark, but i still love getting an album from them every month and trying it out. maybe its nostalgia for when i first found out about them from fantano and decided to pick up father john misty and j dilla, maybe its because a lot of the best records in my collection i bought from them or were pressed by them, or even just that im being a sucker for a cute voice and lyrics that sound poetic. i just kinda feel an attachment
 
So I don’t like Moby “Play”, but I actually enjoy this John Mayer album quite a bit! There’s some really sexy songs on Continuum - I Don’t Trust Myself & Vulture - his falsetto and the thick, breezy grooves on those songs are so sexy!

Waiting On A World To Change is such a unique song for me. It sounds like a lullaby at the start with those twinkle-y pianos and John’s passionate vocals with the funky beat just evoke this cartoonish, happy, cinematic imagery! There’s something really innocent, carefree and sweet about the tone of this track. Its like he’s distracting the kids and the parents, telling them that everything will be OK. But behind doors, behind this lullaby, cartoonish, innocent hopeful song, there’s just so much darkness and messed up shit going on. I don’t know. I really like Waiting On A World To Change in that sense.

I need to listen to this John Mayer album more to digest it, but so far, I’ve enjoyed it! The production is clean but is layered really nicely and I think the breezy sound/tone of this album works, and John Mayer’s sexy vocals are a nice touch too! The song “Belief” is so tight rhythmically and the track is dreamy and velvety, yet has such a sharp, focused groove! I love it!

I’m definitely in for this pick, but totally understand why some people think this is a terrible Essentials pick! Like this is mainstream but I can see also why people, such as yourself Joe, would find this really bland. Music like this I find bland, but these tracks from John Mayer on this album just sound more ahead and innovative!
This is largely my take on it. I like the album, but it's a terrible essentials pick.
 
tbh i disagree with most of the moby hatred we are getting right now.. its not a bad album, its some solid dance music and did impact music in a way, the "is it essential" debate has been going on since the title first came in and we know that it is entirely subjective (they thought the center won't hold was an essential and that was the worst album sleater kinney made), I mostly just think that moby was solid enough and had a clear amount of influence and acclaim to be suitable for the club
 
I'm with you on Bella Donna, but not on Mayer.

I did realize I had a copy of Bella Donna in my "to goodwill" pile and I guess because of all the excitement here, I'm considering filing it back in the collection.
When my Dad bought our first ever CD player the first 3 albums he picked up were Turn Turn Turn by the Byrds,. Appetite for Destruction by GnR and Rooms On Fire by Stevie Nicks. Other than making him look like he was music shopping in the dark it's always left me with a soft spot for Stevie's solo stuff. On that basis I was awwwwl over Bella Donna.

Mayer, not so much and as my elderly mother, who does like this Starbucks coffee bar, smooth and custard shit, doesn't have a record player then it has no real use for me.
 
tbh i disagree with most of the moby hatred we are getting right now.. its not a bad album, its some solid dance music and did impact music in a way, the "is it essential" debate has been going on since the title first came in and we know that it is entirely subjective (they thought the center won't hold was an essential and that was the worst album sleater kinney made), I mostly just think that moby was solid enough and had a clear amount of influence and acclaim to be suitable for the club
Right, I thought the S-K album was terrible and objectively much worse of an album than Continuum.
 
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