Vinyl Me Please Essentials

Joe Mac said:
Spars is

Recorder for initial recording
Recorder for Mix
Mastering

Mastering analogue after doing the mix recording digital would be a bit weird, hence never having seen ADA
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Is ADD the only digital version then that starts out as analogue tape? Could have sworn I have seen people talk about ADA before too...
 
MikeH said:
Is ADD the only digital version then that starts out as analogue tape? Could have sworn I have seen people talk about ADA before too...
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People don’t understand spars. They think the middle letter is mastering and the last the container (cd/file/vinyl etc).The container isn’t contained in the equation at all. That’s why people say ADA. While you can’t master analogue for digital so that will always end D a vinyl etc can theoretically be DDD, ADD or AAD.
 
Joe Mac said:
Look at the five types of code. ADA doesn’t exist...

I suppose it could theoretically but once D is the middle letter it’s also going to be the last because doing an analogue master from a digital mix is odd, if it’s even possible?
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I'm not sure how it would account for it if everything is AAA until they use a lathe that has a digital step. Does that just get lumped in with mastering and trip it to AAD or is it like AAA(D)?
 
Joe Mac said:
Look at the five types of code. ADA doesn’t exist...
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Right, but that system is referring to CD which it states since the end product is a CD it would always be digital the last letter would always be “D” and the AAA is in reference to cassettes. The SPAR system doesn’t seem have been set up to accommodate for Vinyl. But you could use the information and apply it that way based off the description of each unit.
 
dhodo said:
I'm not sure how it would account for it if everything is AAA until they use a lathe that has a digital step. Does that just get lumped in with mastering and trip it to AAD or is it like AAA(D)?
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Sutely a digital lathe has to cut off a digital master so it has to be AAD at best?
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
Right, but that system is referring to CD which it states since the end product is a CD it would always be digital the last letter would always be “D” and the AAA is in reference to cassettes. The SPAR system doesn’t seem have been set up to accommodate for Vinyl. But you could use the information and apply it that way based off the description of each unit.
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Yes but equally the D doesn’t stand for CD. It stands for mastered digitally. So it stands that that last step for vinyl can be either A or D because you can cut vinyl off a digital master. It’d be a highly eccentric, and costly, decision for a mastering engineer to take digital files of the studio mix and record his master of them onto a reel of tape!
 
Joe Mac said:
Sutely a digital lathe has to cut off a digital master so it has to be AAD at best?
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I'm not sure how it works, but I remember reading some people criticising some cutting setups that technically cut from tape, but there is a digital step in the chain from the tape to the lathe. These are memories from way back on sh.tv, so it's iirc. Certainly possible though, just like declickers in Analog stereo setups add a digital step in the chain between the stylus and the speakers.
 
dhodo said:
I'm not sure how it works, but I remember reading some people criticising some cutting setups that technically cut from tape, but there is a digital step in the chain from the tape to the lathe. These are memories from way back on sh.tv, so it's iirc. Certainly possible though, just like declickers in Analog stereo setups add a digital step in the chain between the stylus and the speakers.
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Ah right I see what you mean, like a digital buffer to try and reduce errors. Spars isn’t a perfect system by any means and I suppose that’s something that falls through the gaps and you’d have to call it AAA.
 
Considering BG is recutting the lacquers I would assume this will pretty much be the exact same mastering as his previous release. There's no reason there would be a digital step added if they're simply recutting them, I wouldn't think. The text on the previous release is nebulous at best regarding whether it's actually AAA. I would guess it wasn't. Which is why this one also isn't.
 
Mather said:
Considering BG is recutting the lacquers I would assume this will pretty much be the exact same mastering as his previous release. There's no reason there would be a digital step added if they're simply recutting them, I wouldn't think. The text on the previous release is nebulous at best regarding whether it's actually AAA. I would guess it wasn't. Which is why this one also isn't.
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This. I was thinking the same thing, if all he is doing is recutting than either it was and will remain AAA or it wasn’t AAA to begin with (which is fine by me and based on reviews of the previous pressing sound good to most people). I have made it all this time without this record in my collection if I have to wait until October that’s fine (I guess). For me this is a kind of a passive selection. It gives me a reason to add it to my collection.
 
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