Vinyl Me Please Rap & Hip Hop

Ponman2003 said:
Is 'care for me' last bc you didn't buy it or the actual music was that bad?
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I have Care For Me. It’s a really good sounding pressing. VMP did a really good job with it.

It’s just my least favourite because of the music on it. I still enjoy the album though. It’s very close with T.I.’s KING, but T.I. just has those classic tracks like Why You Wanna and What You Know that are irresistible. More highlights on KING and Saba’s Care For Me doesn’t have much uniqueness sonically in my opinion. Like Calligraphy and Smile sound a bit safe and a bit like low-key Chance The Rapper and Noname but less interesting. I still like Care For Me, but it’s my least favourite pick so far. I’d rate the album 6.9/10. It’s a solid album, but a forgettable album in 2018
 
NathanRicaud said:
I have Care For Me. It’s a really good sounding pressing. VMP did a really good job with it.

It’s just my least favourite because of the music on it. I still enjoy the album though. It’s very close with T.I.’s KING, but T.I. just has those classic tracks like Why You Wanna and What You Know that are irresistible. More highlights on KING and Saba’s Care For Me doesn’t have much uniqueness sonically in my opinion. Like Calligraphy and Smile sound a bit safe and a bit like low-key Chance The Rapper and Noname but less interesting. I still like Care For Me, but it’s my least favourite pick so far. I’d rate the album 6.9/10. It’s a solid album, but a forgettable album in 2018
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That Saba album is the hottest shit out of any new kid this decade. That and Colouring book. Check the U. 😉
 
Hunna said:
Now that the second year of the RHH sub is done I thought I’d rank them. Would be interested in how others would rank them. I know a lot of people might think I’ve got Tical high and I get that it was already readily available but I reckon that’s a top ten all time hip hop record for me, and my third favourite Wu project after 36 Chambers and Supreme Clientele.

  1. Method Man - Tical
  2. Ivy Sole - Overgrown
  3. Handsome Boy Modelling School - So . . . How’s Your Girl?
  4. Denzel Curry - Taboo
  5. Saba - Care For Me
  6. Rico Nasty - Nasty
  7. OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
  8. Juvenile - 400 Degreez
  9. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
  10. TI - King
  11. Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night
  12. Knxledge - Hud Dreems
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1. 400 Degreez
2. Tical
3. Tha Carter III
4. King
5. Handsome
6. Taboo
7. SouthernPlayalisticCaddillacMuzik
8. Care for me
9. Overgrown
10. Uptown Saturday Night
11. Nasty (dont own it)
12. Hud Dreems (wont own it)

Outkast would be No.1 if I didnt own a copy and it wasnt readily available already.
We are only going by last 12 months so that's why Snoop Doom etc ain't ranked.
 
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Jmcg85 said:
1. 400 Degreez
2. Tical
3. Tha Carter III
4. King
5. Handsome
6. Taboo
7. SouthernPlayalisticCaddillacMuzik
8. Care for me
9. Overgrown
10. Uptown Saturday Night
11. Nasty
12. Hud Dreems

Outkast would be No.1 if I didnt own a copy and it wasnt readily available already.
We are only going by last 12 months so that's why Snoop Doom etc ain't ranked.
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I know you put KING that high just to make me laugh.. good one bro :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Believer101 said:
I know you put KING that high just to make me laugh.. good one bro :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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This list isnt based on the music though. If I compare & rank these albums for the music it's a completely different list. The top 4 albums are albums I actually wanted on vinyl for a long time and still wouldnt have picked up yet if only for VMP. Also taking into account the sound, packaging etc, 400 degreez was so damn nicely made I bought 2 copies
 
Jmcg85 said:
1. 400 Degreez
2. Tical
3. Tha Carter III
4. King
5. Handsome
6. Taboo
7. SouthernPlayalisticCaddillacMuzik
8. Care for me
9. Overgrown
10. Uptown Saturday Night
11. Nasty
12. Hud Dreems

Outkast would be No.1 if I didnt own a copy and it wasnt readily available already.
We are only going by last 12 months so that's why Snoop Doom etc ain't ranked.
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I thought the VMP OutKast was the only version with the complete track list? I could be remembering wrong, but I thought there was supposed to be something unique about it
 
Lil wayne putting his mixtapes on spotify and that.. VMP should grab em all and press them if they somehow got permission for them to be legit.

Lil waynes mixtapes are GOAT.. if only rap phenomenon 1 and 2 could somehow go legit lol

I think chris rock said recently pheno 2 is in his top 3 projects of all time.. get it pressed and get chris rock to do VMP commercials for it lol

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^ 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
 
Urbs_hott said:
That Saba album is the hottest shit out of any new kid this decade. That and Colouring book. Check the U. 😉
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I will explain to you why I think Saba’s Care For Me does not live up to the hype and why I don’t think it’s a great record. This is a quick review. (I listened to the album again!)

I like that Saba revisits a lot of 2000’s/early 2010’s R&B production, and I like the jazzy horns you find in half the tracks as well, it’s tastefully executed! I’d describe the production overall on this album as being ‘cozy’, especially on the first and last track.

But there are problems with half the tracks here. I like the concept for the track ‘Broken Girls’, but I think Saba’s deep monotone voice repeating ‘girls’ gets tiring. It feels like the chorus is just a placement holder, rather than actually a chorus that’s memorable, melodic or that ties the whole theme of the song together. I feel the same way with the chorus of ‘Smile’. It just sounds like a placement holder, the singing once again is bland and it sounds empty - a feeling Saba feels, but what is empty is the chorus, there’s no momentum or taste in it. It’s like he’s being a bit bossy and wants himself to smile or someone else to smile but doesn’t want to put the effort in. The first track is also very disappointing from a chorus aspect, TheMIND just sounds like a lifeless version of James Fauntleroy.

Next problem I have is with Saba lacking characteristic. Yes, he has amazing storytelling, especially on King/Prom, and he is painfully honest and does a great job to with making you connect with him sentimentally. But, what is that auto tuned yelling singing stuff he’s doing at the end of Calligraphy??? That just sounds very tacky and isn’t tastefully executed at all. And on the track Fighter, Saba sounds so much like Mick Jenkins whilst rapping and that’s unfortunate because the beat feels ‘wattered’ down and low-key. The song sounds like a leftover from Mick Jenkins’ The Water(s). The chorus of Fighter unintentionally sounds like Saba a tiny bit like he’s a sad man whinging. The woman vocals and the whole polished sound of this chorus unfortunately gives it that effect. If it was just more stripped and raw, it would have a much better effect.

The only song in the first 6 tracks that I feel is truly a great song in terms of overall structure and performance is ‘Life’. That song is absolutely incredible, I love the creeping bass and Saba’s tone constantly changing and the explosion of his feelings in the chorus. It’s an incredible track.

Then you have the incredible Logout, which is colourful, slick, and tender and features beautiful warm pianos. The performance is sharp and Chance The Rapper’s feature is incredible, funny and cute. I love the abrupt ending, it fits in to theme of logging out.

Then you have my favourite track ‘Grey’, which has a beat very similar to Kissey Asplund’s “Caos”. I think the chorus here is extremely clever, directly and indirectly, with Saba explaining how sometimes your best work is usually unknown/not the ‘big song/known song’. And the manipulation of Saba’s voice on the chorus sounds great, and the jazzy horns sound excellent creeping into the chorus too. The TPAB-like second half of Grey is excellent too, even if it might feel a bit unoriginal in sound.

Prom/King shows why Saba is a great storyteller. This track is also as good as Grey. No need for me to explain why this track is incredible. It’s anecdotal, narrative rap at its finest! A real highlight of 2018!

So yes, there are some definite highlights on Care For Me, but unfortunately half the tracks are forgettable due to Saba’s performance. The low-key, nocturnal, perceptive production can therefore sound a bit copy and paste. Care For Me is still a solid project, but doesn’t have enough strong tracks to make it an overall great project.
 
duke86fan said:
storf being storf again?

i'm hoping its not big boi.. not because i dislike the album, but we already got an outkast album.. its most likely the roots
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It’s most likely Big Boi. Think about the Cash Money releases they released a flurry of their albums in a very short stretch. They cultivated a relationship with Big Boi and part of that points to this being kind of a no-brainer type release. It really wouldn’t surprise me if, after this release, they go ahead with another OutKast ROTM for Essentials towards the end of the year. I prefer The Roots to Outkast but Their 2010 release is not even a top 5 release for them. Chico Dusty was much more critically acclaimed and fits the modern classic tag better (though none of these potential releases really hit it that hard IMO). With stuff like this, lots of time the most obvious answer is usually the right answer and to me the most obvious is Big Boi.
 
NathanRicaud said:
I will explain to you why I think Saba’s Care For Me does not live up to the hype and why I don’t think it’s a great record. This is a quick review. (I listened to the album again!)

I like that Saba revisits a lot of 2000’s/early 2010’s R&B production, and I like the jazzy horns you find in half the tracks as well, it’s tastefully executed! I’d describe the production overall on this album as being ‘cozy’, especially on the first and last track.

But there are problems with half the tracks here. I like the concept for the track ‘Broken Girls’, but I think Saba’s deep monotone voice repeating ‘girls’ gets tiring. It feels like the chorus is just a placement holder, rather than actually a chorus that’s memorable, melodic or that ties the whole theme of the song together. I feel the same way with the chorus of ‘Smile’. It just sounds like a placement holder, the singing once again is bland and it sounds empty - a feeling Saba feels, but what is empty is the chorus, there’s no momentum or taste in it. It’s like he’s being a bit bossy and wants himself to smile or someone else to smile but doesn’t want to put the effort in. The first track is also very disappointing from a chorus aspect, TheMIND just sounds like a lifeless version of James Fauntleroy.

Next problem I have is with Saba lacking characteristic. Yes, he has amazing storytelling, especially on King/Prom, and he is painfully honest and does a great job to with making you connect with him sentimentally. But, what is that auto tuned yelling singing stuff he’s doing at the end of Calligraphy??? That just sounds very tacky and isn’t tastefully executed at all. And on the track Fighter, Saba sounds so much like Mick Jenkins whilst rapping and that’s unfortunate because the beat feels ‘wattered’ down and low-key. The song sounds like a leftover from Mick Jenkins’ The Water(s). The chorus of Fighter unintentionally sounds like Saba a tiny bit like he’s a sad man whinging. The woman vocals and the whole polished sound of this chorus unfortunately gives it that effect. If it was just more stripped and raw, it would have a much better effect.

The only song in the first 6 tracks that I feel is truly a great song in terms of overall structure and performance is ‘Life’. That song is absolutely incredible, I love the creeping bass and Saba’s tone constantly changing and the explosion of his feelings in the chorus. It’s an incredible track.

Then you have the incredible Logout, which is colourful, slick, and tender and features beautiful warm pianos. The performance is sharp and Chance The Rapper’s feature is incredible, funny and cute. I love the abrupt ending, it fits in to theme of logging out.

Then you have my favourite track ‘Grey’, which has a beat very similar to Kissey Asplund’s “Caos”. I think the chorus here is extremely clever, directly and indirectly, with Saba explaining how sometimes your best work is usually unknown/not the ‘big song/known song’. And the manipulation of Saba’s voice on the chorus sounds great, and the jazzy horns sound excellent creeping into the chorus too. The TPAB-like second half of Grey is excellent too, even if it might feel a bit unoriginal in sound.

Prom/King shows why Saba is a great storyteller. This track is also as good as Grey. No need for me to explain why this track is incredible. It’s anecdotal, narrative rap at its finest! A real highlight of 2018!

So yes, there are some definite highlights on Care For Me, but unfortunately half the tracks are forgettable due to Saba’s performance. The low-key, nocturnal, perceptive production can therefore sound a bit copy and paste. Care For Me is still a solid project, but doesn’t have enough strong tracks to make it an overall great project.
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People can say he is derivative if they want, but in my opinion he put out an album better than anything Chance or Mick Jenkins have done in the last 5 years. I'm bummed that Mick never put out a properly trimmed down album that hit the highs of the water(s)

Chance never really did it for me at all though and Saba clicked for some reason.
 
dhodo said:
People can say he is derivative if they want, but in my opinion he put out an album better than anything Chance or Mick Jenkins have done in the last 5 years. I'm bummed that Mick never put out a properly trimmed down album that hit the highs of the water(s)

Chance never really did it for me at all though and Saba clicked for some reason.
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That Saba record never clicked for me. I gave it multiple attempts based on the hype and personally never got it. It’s was too downbeat and and dour to keep my attention and nothing about it made me want to relistem to it (beyond trying to understand the hype) it was a release I actually ended up swapping even though I knew it was going to shoot up in value because it was something that I could never see myself listening to.
 
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