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The VMP price hike is a lot, but I'm sure VMP are going to pull a lot of special ROTM's, like they have been doing lately like Buena Vista Social Club, Spiritualized and The White Stripes! I'm so ready for OutKast's Stankonia later, and for other magnificent ROTM's! The price hike will be justified with a lot of their ROTM's in my opinion! 💯

for 50$ a piece (which is what i would pay for 3 monthly) they would have to come up with a huge personal white whale for me to sign up with them again. MY local has the workld circuit BVSC for 25$ whis is supposed to sound good and has the same booklet. I´m not paying 25$ extra for the art print
 
I feel your pain. Its hard when your favourite teams turns in to a massive bag of shite.
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VMP are messy, and have been stuffing orders up a lot etc, including mine, but I think they are still great in what they do and I think this is their strongest year in the Essentials ROTM category so far! I think VMP still provide excellent exclusives and I think they haven't turned into shit yet.

Totally understand why you think otherwise though and I respect that 🙂
 
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VMP are messy, and have been stuffing orders up a lot etc, including mine, but I think they are still great in what they do and I think this is their strongest year in the Essentials ROTM category so far! I think VMP still provide excellent exclusives and I think they haven't turned into shit yet.

Totally understand why you think otherwise though and I respect that 🙂

How can you write that?
 
How can you write that?
Like, VMP are still great at curation, and with the ROTM picks they do every month! I think it's still all great! I love their exclusives overall and still find them a fun and cool company. But yeah, shipping and customer service is very inconsistent and is disastrous a lot of the times. That is something they definitely do not do well.
 
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VMP are messy, and have been stuffing orders up a lot etc, including mine, but I think they are still great in what they do and I think this is their strongest year in the Essentials ROTM category so far! I think VMP still provide excellent exclusives and I think they haven't turned into shit yet.

Totally understand why you think otherwise though and I respect that 🙂

I said in another thread as a general rule there is usually one of the three subs I'd be happy to have and if I'd considered it or it had been available I'd have stumped up the cash of my own volition. But its increasingly just becoming one of the three. I remember getting boxes on a monthly basis with 8 - 9 records in. I just don't find they have that now.

And I know that this is my opinion but I don't personally consider Caroline Rose, Phoenix, Jim Sullivan, the worst Sleater Kinney album they've ever released or John Mayer to be 'Essential' or even handy to haves. Pretty sure all of those have been put out in essentials in the last 18 months too.

But BVSC is ace and Spiritualized is a coup for sure
 
Just judging by this paragraph, it seems that what you find respectable about VMP compared to Newbury is that they... sell out of products more often? I think what you are looking at as respectable on VMP's part is what I hate about their marketing the most - the endless FOMO. Newbury sells out of their exclusives all the time, but at least from what I've seen they don't really make a show about how their pressings are super limited and "won't last long" (a phrase I have seen VMP tweet numerous times over the last couple months). Those three albums you listed aren't exclusive to Newbury, you can find plenty of copies elsewhere and Newbury is just another option, and I'm pretty sure Newbury is aware of that. VMP seems to have deluded themselves or are actively trying to delude their customers (whichever you think is worse) that their pressings will be the absolute best and that "zomg you'd better jump quick before sells out because we artificially limited this to sell out 😱" when in reality, when it comes to exclusives, 95% VMP are just repressing what is already readily available in a different color with no pressing differences whatsoever.

I think the idea that VMP are in an elite class of vinyl retailers is a falsehood that they continue to try to perpetuate because that reputation is really all they have at this point. They've built themselves up as the better option to a Newbury or an Urban Outfitters and maybe that was true at one point, but it sure as hell isn't true anymore. VMP is not any better than most other retailers or record clubs out there but they've slid by the past few years by making people believe they are the better option in comparison with companies that aren't trying to be as ambitious as VMP claims to be and without doing anything to prove that and stoking FOMO to ensure they keep the last hanger-ons tied down to the sinking ship. Because hey, we know our last few ROTMs have been shitty picks, but we might actually do Section.80 next time, totally for real 👀

It's all FOMO and it's also all bullshit. VMP enjoys a lack of transparency either companies of their stature could never get away with, and they've been alienating customers with underwhelming ROTMs, a tiring amount of FOMO and decisions thrust on their subscriber base with almost no notice (the price hike being the most recent one, but the price hike was much like the forum shutdown before it. "What would you do with more time" to give us more money?) I just don't have any respect for VMP, and it's really only their massive failures that makes me see as Newbury as desirable in comparison, which is the opposite of what they are desperately hoping people will think of them: that they are the best product just because of their name so that they don't actually have to do any of the work to prove that they are the best, they just need people to *believe* that they are.
This is very well written and I like the reasoning behind this response a lot. I do agree with some of this! VMP do try and store a lot of FOMO into a lot of their customers and get away with it because they are the most popular vinyl club at the moment. I'm glad I don't have FOMO though!

I love the Section.80 sentence! That was spot on and the sarcasm was on point! Like, VMP will tease something and will get people excited for a big release but they won't do it! At least they did do Fiona Apple's When The Pawn though! I'm happy VMP exclusively pressed that one!

VMP do lack transparency for sure though! Totally see why you would see Newbury Comics as more desirable in comparison. They are definitely less messy and more consistent as a company!

Raekwon, NaS & Deltron 3030 arens exclsuive to Newbury, but they wouldn't be exclusive to VMP either and would sell out within a day, just like with how the Mobb Deep and Freddie Gibbs x The Alchemist sold out within an hour!

I definitely hear you and do agree with a lot of your points though, like it combats my points very well!
 
Like, VMP are still great at curation, and with the ROTM picks they do every month! I think it's still all great! I love their exclusives overall and still find them a fun and cool company. But yeah, shipping and customer service is very inconsistent and is disastrous a lot of the times. That is something they definitely do not do well.

Still great at curation > very debatable as it's a matter of taste, I see many of their last picks as non Essentials

I love their exclusives > you mean their colored version?

shipping and customer service is very inconsistent and is disastrous a lot of the times. Only? What about quality control? What about logistics? They have been bad at almost everything. They aren't even able to provide a colored variant that actually looks like a mock-up. Would you find it funny to purchase a red car and receive a blue one instead?
 
I said in another thread as a general rule there is usually one of the three subs I'd be happy to have and if I'd considered it or it had been available I'd have stumped up the cash of my own volition. But its increasingly just becoming one of the three. I remember getting boxes on a monthly basis with 8 - 9 records in. I just don't find they have that now.

And I know that this is my opinion but I don't personally consider Caroline Rose, Phoenix, Jim Sullivan, the worst Sleater Kinney album they've ever released or John Mayer to be 'Essential' or even handy to haves. Pretty sure all of those have been put out in essentials in the last 18 months too.

But BVSC is ace and Spiritualized is a coup for sure
Phoenix was a great pick but I agree, the Sleater-Kinney pick was TERRIBLE, and the Caroline Rose pick was underwhelming! Like Caroline Rose was a new album, and an album that wasn't even highly anticipated. Jim Sullivan was also a weak pick but I think the John Mayer was a great pick, but certainly a controversial one as John Mayer has assaulted people in his past relationship and is racist.

Yeah, I think a lot of people will go from having 8-9 records a month to only a few, due to the current inconsistencies and price hike they had!
 
Still great at curation > very debatable as it's a matter of taste, I see many of their last picks as non Essentials

I love their exclusives > you mean their colored version?

shipping and customer service is very inconsistent and is disastrous a lot of the times. Only? What about quality control? What about logistics? They have been bad at almost everything. They aren't even able to provide a colored variant that actually looks like a mock-up. Would you find it funny to purchase a red car and receive a blue one instead?
VMP have almost been bad at everything but they still manage to be very popular and have a large subscription base! VMP are so bad, and will screw up really bad, like they did with their store merge and with their customer service, but will still be in business and continue to sell a lot.

I hear you, there is a lack of quality control and a lot of the mock-ups lately don't match the one they show, but...🤷‍♂️

VMP can do Britney Spears as the next Essentials ROTM and they will still thrive, because VMP is the best and still do great touches to a ROTM when they release it!
 
Funny story, I was once digging through records at a shop and saw that record 4 times in 3 different locations in the store. Including in the "suggested albums by X employee". I asked the employee what was up with that, and apparently that was her section and her co workers put it in there to mess with her.
I have that album somewhere in storage and haven't played it since the year it was released. "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" came on Sirius XM a couple of days ago and I don't think I could have changed the station fast enough. Even his old stuff with Jazzy Jeff I can't listen to anymore. If we're going to do with a 90s cheese album I'd be down for Kriss Kross over Will Smith.
 
I have that album somewhere in storage and haven't played it since the year it was released. "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" came on Sirius XM a couple of days ago and I don't think I could have changed the station fast enough. Even his old stuff with Jazzy Jeff I can't listen to anymore. If we're going to do with a 90s cheese album I'd be down for Kriss Kross over Will Smith.
Fuck, just hearing the title I can hear the "na na na na na na na"
 
Just cause we were talking about RYM and the top album rankings there the other day and now people talking about Big Willie Style...music of that time/type makes me think of the halcyon days of Total Request Live. So...

The Top 10 most-requested videos of TRL:

10. Kelly Clarkson - Since You’ve Been Gone
9. OutKast - Hey Ya!
8. Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
7. Justin Timberlake - Cry Me a River
6. Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
5. Good Charlotte - The Anthem
4. Usher (ft Luda/Lil Jon) - Yeah!
3. N’Sync - Bye Bye Bye
2. Backstreet Boys - Larger than Life
1. Backstreet Boys - Shape of My Heart

What did we learn today? That Backstreet Boys are pretty much the Radiohead of the TRL world!
 
Just cause we were talking about RYM and the top album rankings there the other day and now people talking about Big Willie Style...music of that time/type makes me think of the halcyon days of Total Request Live. So...

The Top 10 most-requested videos of TRL:

10. Kelly Clarkson - Since You’ve Been Gone
9. OutKast - Hey Ya!
8. Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
7. Justin Timberlake - Cry Me a River
6. Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
5. Good Charlotte - The Anthem
4. Usher (ft Luda/Lil Jon) - Yeah!
3. N’Sync - Bye Bye Bye
2. Backstreet Boys - Larger than Life
1. Backstreet Boys - Shape of My Heart

What did we learn today? That Backstreet Boys are pretty much the Radiohead of the TRL world!
TRL shaped the start of all of my musical tastes
 
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