Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

I assume another argument to be made is that (and this is obvious) VMP is a curator
That may be true for a number of subscribers that get essentiaIs but i think its rarely true for the people on here. People here are excited for spiritualized or fiona because they wanted vinyl versions of these not because they knew about them from vmp. Especially in essentiaIs there is maybe a record a year I would not have known without vmp. I admit it's different for classics. I'm not a hip hop head but there are rarely rhh picks that I have not heard about before. And if I read the " I joint for..." comments on the forum most people joint for a record they knew before and wanted a fancy or good copy of.
Exclusives are a little different beast,, but since nowadays theyre mostly more expensive color variants that see parallel releases elsewhere for me the curation is negligible
 
Buy into it or don't. You asked a question that read more like a statement and I'm really not sure what you hope to derive from it.

What I know is that I've seen numerous people regularly state that they are sticking around strictly for Classics. This has been consistently happening, at least since the old forum ended over a year ago, when there was a huge influx of cancellations. It's a sentiment that I've seen repeated consistently. So, if there's been a consistent wave of different people expressing this sentiment to me and it hasn't ended, then it doesn't feel like there's an end to it. The rest is semantics.

You mention classics and claim that the "novelty" is that VMP is "trying to keep those re-presses faithful." I'd argue that it has more to do with the quality of those pressings and that, genre-wise, there's a solid overlap with audiophiles, along with the curation of those titles and how that appeals to members who are interested in growing particular areas of their collections that may be lacking, such as jazz or blues, etc.

No matter how you slice it, you're still explaining different non-color reasons that people subscribe, so your claim that color is the main focus and they will leave without it, still crumbles under those examples. If your claim is that everyone just wants novelty, but not you, because you want substance, well... it doesn't really matter how many times you say "no offense," beforehand, you'll still sound somewhat elitist and judgmental in presenting that narrative, especially if people express that they don't feel that way and you respond that you think it's true, anyway.

I'm gonna be straight up with you and say that I don't fully understand the purpose of your questioning, other than you seem to suggest things that work to elevate and set yourself apart by forcing a narrative that I think holds very little weight. You're presenting it like you're asking a question, but if your initial question -- which, again, reads more like a statement, to be honest -- begins to veer off outside of your intended narrative, you force it back into those set parameters. So, you like music for the music. Cool. You believe most other people are collecting it for some superficial reason. Okay. I guess, you keep doing it the "right way" and let all these new jack suckers chase shiny objects like a cat with a laser pointer.

What I know is that I've been watching people complain non-stop about how VMP isn't offering as many true exclusives anymore and how their curation has mostly become variants. Then VMP announces something like Ladies And Gentlemen..., which has nothing but really shitty or very expensive alternatives, and people scream "FUCK! Now I guess I'm sticking around." What kept them here isn't a novelty or a color, but the chance to finally not have to buy some bunk Plain Recordings pressing. Idler Wheel was on black vinyl. When The Pawn? Black vinyl. Tidal? Black vinyl. What artist has crashed the site more than Fiona Apple? It's black vinyl. Is the "novelty" there that it's hard to get?

EVERY single time the records of the month are announced, people are complaining about the current availability and accessibility of what they've selected. More than that, the minute the guessing even begins, I watch the speculation filled with frustration about how something better not be one thing or another that's readily available elsewhere. Members of this forum are actively presenting links to alternate places to pick up other variants and selecting the ones that they like the most, or are cheaper. This is every day here and it has been since the beginning. Just look at the VMP variants of the Tidal Wave releases and how the pressing numbers are higher than the other variants. Plus, look in the guess threads and let me know how many people are guessing and asking for color variants in there. They're asking for specific titles.

If you want to believe that you have some superior take on vinyl collecting, great. We all probably do that with ourselves. I know; you said that you're not doing that and understand that other people care about the color variants and that's fine, it's just not your thing, or whatever. That's great, too. It still comes across a little condescending though.

If seem like you're asking a question you already have your conclusion for. It's just not one that I really agree with, because it's not one that I see a whole lot of evidence of. If VMP was releasing rarer albums that are in need of represses, but they weren't fancy colors, would there be a wave of canceled subscriptions? Well, since a ton of people have canceled, expressly because they feel like they can get the same albums elsewhere and are questioning the value of a membership on here on a daily basis, I guess you can come to your own conclusions. Arguably the most popular repress this month was Blossom Dearie.

I mean... technically, I've actually been collecting records longer than you have and am older than you. But who really gives a shit? Your post feels kind of patronizing and like you want everyone to admit that they only like fancy colors and will leave if they don't get them. Maybe they do and would. Maybe I just interact with people on here more than you do, but I believe that they have more nuance and depth than you're giving them credit for. Then again, maybe I give everyone too much credit and you're right that they would all leave. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe record collecting is objectively foolish, costs too much money, and is taking up way too much room in my home. Maybe we all enjoy it anyway and if we need to try and create tiers or categories, so that we can rank ourselves higher or differently, just to rationalize our own personal reasoning for being involved in this ludicrous hobby, when we're all really just a bunch of fucking idiots, anyway, then maybe we shouldn't even be worrying so much about what motivates everyone else.

For me, I probably have psychological issues with feelings of security and am terrified of losing my tether to the physical world as technology makes things increasingly more abstract, so I cling tight to physical objects. Is my connection more about touch than sound, then? Is that more or less noble than someone buying things based on visuals? I mean, it's all sensory. In the end, we're all basically just stupid animals. You can put an ascot and spats on a donkey, but it does nothing to change its nature.

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Old people that "just don't get it" don't come across as "cool" and wise to a younger generation anymore than they ever did to us when we were the younger generation


If it came off as condescending , I didn't mean it to, but it also seemed to agitate you in some way, that is fine and I get that. Sorry if my Buy it comment came off as harsh, it wasn't meant to be, it was just a saying, but you seem to have taken it that way. my point in bringing up my age/length of listening to records has more to due with the fact that especially in the late 90s where vinyl was a novelty at that point and color while was a thing, the big deal was actually finding a copy, period. Color was never a thing for me, and maybe it is now for people where color seems to be instilled in record collecting, Is that right or wrong I don't know.

And keep in mind, I am like many in this thread, still giving $30 a month to VMP, so trying to slight people for just being subscribers would be foolish on my part. I'll agree, it did come off as pretentious, try as I might some times you can't avoid it. I barely post here, so yes, you would know more than me, and know the people here obviously, but i also think everyone here is nice not the normal reddit crowd, or the early to mid 00s boards with this subject matter, and def not anywhere near what the steve hoffmans forums are, you couldn't pay me to post there


My OG question less to do with this forum/tread and more to do with other avenues ie their social, reddit etc, while this place seems to be for "smarter" or at least more self aware VMP people

This was not meant as a serperior take, just a take period. Just because it may seem like i am going against the model that MOST people enjoy, does not mean It comes with an elite take, it's how I feel, and maybe if that crate diggers track existed I'd be less inclined to ask this question, and it was a question

Look I get it, and I am commenting to a person who uses "Dead C" as their user name. I'm not going to get a Siltbreeze or a Bada Bing comp from VMP anytime soon either . The point of my question was just that: If VMP just stopped color variants would you still be interested. I ask because I don't think for better or worse VMP could survive in the way they are now, due to the fact many of the people interested in VMP may no longer be if all tracks were black

Do we even know what the numbers are (I'm talking tracks here, which we know many have been repressed by vmp)? Have they ever been released? Blossom Dearie is hyped sure and sells out instantly, but hell, plenty of harsh noise records, black metal records, minimal composer records etc. get that same kind of hype where if a repress happens for certain records, it goes instantly ie Merzbow's Pulse Demon etc. and I would add for some of those records IE SUNN O))) sells in the thousands, sometimes 10k copies or more due to variant. So it happens in these "cool music nerds" worlds too, and that just isnt for me either.

Edit: Also to be clear - nowhere did I say or even hint that I think most people would stop subscribing, but as I did say, I don't think it would be an insignificant number either.

It's almost like you are having a conversation with yourself justifying why you might like color or limited variants, and that's fine too.

I was a sociology major, not psych, but I've done the same thing

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If it came off as condescending , I didn't mean it to, but it also seemed to agitate you in some way, that is fine and I get that. Sorry if my Buy it comment came off as harsh, it wasn't meant to be, it was just a saying, but you seem to have taken it that way. my point in bringing up my age/length of listening to records has more to due with the fact that especially in the late 90s where vinyl was a novelty at that point and color while was a thing, the big deal was actually finding a copy, period. Color was never a thing for me, and maybe it is now for people where color seems to be instilled in record collecting, Is that right or wrong I don't know.

And keep in mind, I am like many in this thread, still giving $30 a month to VMP, so trying to slight people for just being subscribers would be foolish on my part, but sure, I'll agree, it did come off as pretentious, try as I might some times you can't avoid it. I barely post here, so yes, you would know more than me, and know the people here obviously, but i also think everyone here is nice not the normal reddit crowd, or the early to mid 00s boards with this subject matter, and def not anywhhere near what the steve hoffmans forums are, you ouldn't pay me to post there


My OG question less to do with this forum/tread and more to do with other avenues ie their social, reddit etc, while this place seems to be for "smarter" or at least more self aware VMP people

This was not meant as a serperior take, just a take period. Just because it may seem like i am going against the model that MOST people enjoy, does not mean It comes with an elite take, it's how I feel, and maybe if that crate diggers track existed I'd be less inclined to ask this question, and it was a question

Look I get it, and I am commenting to a person who uses "Dead C" as their user name. I'm not going to get a Siltbreeze or a Bada Bing comp from VMP anytime soon either . The point of my question was just that: If VMP just stopped color variants would you still be interested. I ask because I don't think for better or worse VMP could survive in the way they are now, due to the fact many of the people interested in VMP may no longer be if all tracks were black

Do we even know what the numbers are (I'm talking tracks here, which we know many have been repressed by vmp)? Have they ever been released? Blossom Dearie is hyped sure and sells out instantly, but hell, plenty of harsh noise records, black metal records, minimal composer records etc. get that same kind of hype where if a repress happens for certain records, it goes instantly ie Merzbow's Pulse Demon etc. and I would add for some of those records IE SUNN O))) sells in the thousands, sometimes 10k copies or more due to variant. So it happens in these "cool music nerds" worlds too, and that just isnt for me either.

Edit: Also to be clear - nowhere did I say or even hint that I think most people would stop subscribing, but as I did say, I don't think it would be an insignificant number either.

It's almost like you are having a conversation with yourself justifying why you might like color or limited variants, and that's fine too.

I was a sociology major, not psych, but I've done the same thing

Edited for spelling and clearity.

You dont need to appologise for these posts - I didn't read it as preaching, condescending etc. I would be nit picking to say otherwise.
In answer to ur Q .....
Would I subscribe to a record club that only dealt in black Vinyl true exclusives - Fuck yeah. Could they also be Black and yellow stripes every release and call themselves Bee Records - Why not. Its got to the point getting black vinyl stands out as possibly a "quality" pressing. Tough business model to crack tho a nice niche.

Your probably right tho - It would cost them a significant number of members.
 
I have a serious question

and am in no way looking down on anyone

if VMP said we aren’t going to do color variants anymore but put more emphasis on licensing/reissuing rarer records (not just a different “version” the artist label or other licensers are doing) but titles totally exclusive to VMP, would you still subscribe?

for me personally I could care less about variants. This is less about the argument that black sounds better, but more about titles that actually are exclusive. And granted, I know not every VMP thing is just a variant. There are some exclusives. I also realize the FOMO gimmick and comic book/baseball variant gimmick is VMP bread and butter so to speak.

But I guess for me color rarity never was a selling point ever. And I’ve been buying vinylsince I was 16 so around 22 years. Sure it looks cool but I just wanted to listen to records

again, if you’re thing is the color variants. That’s cool. More power to you. And again I know more than likely the appeal ofVMP for many is the model they have now

but it would be cool to really be part of a “club” where the focus truly is on the rare or undiscovered
Yes, but as long as when we say rarer, we don't mean hasn't been reissued in decades because it is still available in bargain bins everywhere.
 
I have a serious question

and am in no way looking down on anyone

if VMP said we aren’t going to do color variants anymore but put more emphasis on licensing/reissuing rarer records (not just a different “version” the artist label or other licensers are doing) but titles totally exclusive to VMP, would you still subscribe?

for me personally I could care less about variants. This is less about the argument that black sounds better, but more about titles that actually are exclusive. And granted, I know not every VMP thing is just a variant. There are some exclusives. I also realize the FOMO gimmick and comic book/baseball variant gimmick is VMP bread and butter so to speak.

But I guess for me color rarity never was a selling point ever. And I’ve been buying vinylsince I was 16 so around 22 years. Sure it looks cool but I just wanted to listen to records

again, if you’re thing is the color variants. That’s cool. More power to you. And again I know more than likely the appeal of VMP for many is the model they have now

but it would be cool to really be part of a “club” where the focus truly is on the rare or undiscovered
I would still subscribe, but I do enjoy variants if they're a few dollars more. Just as I like a great quality jacket or booklet, the color can add to the experience.

But the resale market for color variants does speak to what you're saying. Lots of ppl are thrilled to buy a color variant for 3x or 4x the price of standard. Unfortunately, VMP & Newbury are trying to get a bigger slice of that pie, and the price difference between std. black and variants keeps increasing :(

And finally, on the issue of 'discovering', there are many subscribers (like myself) who are pretty damn ignorant on music XD So even when VMP gets a bit lazy and 'curates' a color variant like Spoon or Camp Lo, they're still helping a lot of people discover that record.
 
I have a serious question

and am in no way looking down on anyone

if VMP said we aren’t going to do color variants anymore but put more emphasis on licensing/reissuing rarer records (not just a different “version” the artist label or other licensers are doing) but titles totally exclusive to VMP, would you still subscribe?

for me personally I could care less about variants. This is less about the argument that black sounds better, but more about titles that actually are exclusive. And granted, I know not every VMP thing is just a variant. There are some exclusives. I also realize the FOMO gimmick and comic book/baseball variant gimmick is VMP bread and butter so to speak.

But I guess for me color rarity never was a selling point ever. And I’ve been buying vinylsince I was 16 so around 22 years. Sure it looks cool but I just wanted to listen to records

again, if you’re thing is the color variants. That’s cool. More power to you. And again I know more than likely the appeal ofVMP for many is the model they have now

but it would be cool to really be part of a “club” where the focus truly is on the rare or undiscovered
I think rare truly exclusive music would be a much greater selling point. Unfortunately it is likely more difficult to appeal to wide swath of consumers going this route than just picking a popular LP and putting it in a new color wax.
 
You dont need to appologise for these posts - I didn't read it as preaching, condescending etc. I would be nit picking to say otherwise.
In answer to ur Q .....
Would I subscribe to a record club that only dealt in black Vinyl true exclusives - Fuck yeah. Could they also be Black and yellow stripes every release and call themselves Bee Records - Why not. Its got to the point getting black vinyl stands out as possibly a "quality" pressing. Tough business model to crack tho a nice niche.

Your probably right tho - It would cost them a significant number of members.
See I don’t think people care about black on ROTM, as @Dead C pointed out with the classics subscription. If it’s a good album in need of reissuing and is an exclusive remaster, people will buy it.

It’s the store exclusives that would take the most hit if they stopped doing color variants since it’s becoming increasingly the case that those are often limited color variants available elsewhere. Nobody knows subscription numbers but I’m assuming a lot of members buy those exclusives too and it’s a steady cash flow for VMP. I don’t think many people sub only for exclusives now though since true exclusives are so few and far between.
 
See I don’t think people care about black on ROTM, as @Dead C pointed out with the classics subscription. If it’s a good album in need of reissuing and is an exclusive remaster, people will buy it.

It’s the store exclusives that would take the most hit if they stopped doing color variants since it’s becoming increasingly the case that those are often limited color variants available elsewhere. Nobody knows subscription numbers but I’m assuming a lot of members buy those exclusives too and it’s a steady cash flow for VMP. I don’t think many people sub only for exclusives now though since true exclusives are so few and far between.
Yes, I think what I was getting at really if the main tracks (as far as I know there has never been a classic track on color, but I could be wrong? Please correct me) If the main tracks were black, and maybe I should have clarified that earlier. I think the store exclusives not the tracks, are just that, and I think getting rid of those in terms of variant, would have made an impact on subscriber count.

I also get it, not all tracks are just variants, and yes, there have been some of these Essentials etc a VMP only exclusive, but for the most part, I would imagine Spiritualized will just be re-issued elsewhere (and i do know about the plain recordings, I mean My Bloody Valentine's Loveless is a prime example of their BS) , but I think what I was getting at was I'd rather have titles in these tracks totally exclusive to the club, and it seems like more and more of the FOMO is just the color variants themselves, again I know some tracks truly are exclusives.
 
Yes, I think what I was getting at really if the main tracks (as far as I know there has never been a classic track on color, but I could be wrong? Please correct me) If the main tracks were black, and maybe I should have clarified that earlier. I think the store exclusives not the tracks, are just that, and I think getting rid of those in terms of variant, would have made an impact on subscriber count.

I also get it, not all tracks are just variants, and yes, there have been some of these Essentials etc a VMP only exclusive, but for the most part, I would imagine Spiritualized will just be re-issued elsewhere (and i do know about the plain recordings, I mean My Bloody Valentine's Loveless is a prime example of their BS) , but I think what I was getting at was I'd rather have titles in these tracks totally exclusive to the club, and it seems like more and more of the FOMO is just the color variants themselves, again I know some tracks truly are exclusives.
See I don’t think people really care about color variants in the main subscriber tracks...they care more about if it’s a good album that hasn’t been reissued recently. The stuff that sells out in the ROTM is because of that reason. I don’t think Handsome Boy Modeling School being a color variant is what made people want it—it’s that it has been out of print for so long.

People likely care more about if it’s a new remaster and not available elsewhere than what color. But it all boils down to exclusivity. VMP doesn’t release subscriber counts because it would make things look less exclusive. Stuff wouldn’t sell for quite as much second hand if people learned, for example, that 10,000 copies exist or you could buy the same exact remaster for cheaper at a later date.
 
See I don’t think people really care about color variants in the main subscriber tracks...they care more about if it’s a good album that hasn’t been reissued recently. The stuff that sells out in the ROTM is because of that reason. I don’t think Handsome Boy Modeling School being a color variant is what made people want it—it’s that it has been out of print for so long.

People likely care more about if it’s a new remaster and not available elsewhere than what color. But it all boils down to exclusivity. VMP doesn’t release subscriber counts because it would make things look less exclusive. Stuff wouldn’t sell for quite as much second hand if people learned, for example, that 10,000 copies exist or you could buy the same exact remaster for cheaper at a later date.
Wow, I guess VMP clientele then is way smarter than i give them credit for, so really what everyone is telling me color doesn't matter, so if essentials really did start go just pure black, no veriant, And the drop off would be minimal at best? Not trying to pick a fight or anything i just want to make sure that i am understanding this, nor am I being sarcastic (so we are all clear).

its remaster and if it's been out of print, that's it? I'm not disagreeing with you, but i had no idea 10k+ people could really care about any of that on a consistent basis to keep VMP aloat in the way they have and there is nothing else at play here. I'm just surprised
 
Wow, I guess VMP clientele then is way smarter than i give them credit for, so really what everyone is telling me color doesn't matter, so if essentials really did start go just pure black, no veriant, VMP would be fine? And the drop off would be minimal at best? Not trying to pick a fight or anything i just want to make sure that i am understanding this, nor am I being sarcastic (so we are all clear).

its remaster and if it's been out of print, that's it? I'm not disagreeing with you, but i had no idea 10k+ people could really care about any of that on a consistent basis to keep VMP aloat in the way they have
Take our replies with a grain of salt, you are talking to a bunch of fellow music obsessives that collect records. I would say this might get different answers from VMP casual consumer base.
 
Take our replies with a grain of salt, you are talking to a bunch of fellow music obsessives that collect records. I would say this might get different answers from VMP casual consumer base.
totally agree, which is why I am skeptical of the responses I've got from above, not that I think any of you are wrong, I don't even think I'm right, but yeah i agree. I don't think taking away color vinyl would put VMP on death's door, nor do I think it is bad thing if that's what people are going for to set them over the edge to buy a record.

I'm also not saying their aren't 10k+ record collectors out there that care about this stuff. Maybe I am in my own bubble for sure, but it doesn't seem like VMP is taken as a serious sort of rarities/OOP club type thing, but is it and I'm just ignorant to this? I actually think VMP as concept is fine, if I didnt I wouldnt pay for it monthly.
 
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totally agree, which is why I am skeptical of the responses I've got from above, not that I think any of you are wrong, I don't even think I'm right, but yeah i agree. I don't think taking away color vinyl would put VMP on death's door, nor do I think it is bad thing if that's what people are going for to set them over the edge to buy a record.

I'm also not saying their aren't 10k+ record collectors out there that care about this stuff. Maybe I am in my own bubble for sure, but it doesn't seem like VMP is taken as a serious sort of rarities/OOP club type thing, but is it and I'm just ignorant to this? I actually think VMP as concept is fine, if I didnt I wouldnt pay for it monthly.
@TenderLovingKiller® is 100% right. People on a vinyl forum probably aren’t the best sample size and demographic for your question haha. I personally know a few different kinds of VMP subscribers that are friends. Some are casual listeners/vinyl owners with set it and forget it VMP subscriptions. They like the discovery aspect and getting a surprise record in the mail each month and don’t shop much in the store. Then there are international subscribers that buy a lot of vinyl through VMP because of the cheap international shipping. They buy a lot of the exclusives that come out in the store. Then you have the folks like a lot of us who are on message boards and keep up to date with releases, don’t buy everything through VMP and don’t care much about the colored vinyl aspect as a main driver in purchasing decision. Peppered into all of those groups are the people who care about sound quality and releases they can’t easily find elsewhere more than color variants.

If the exclusivity aspect stayed the same, I don’t think many people would care about color which is supported by the idea that classics sells out every month when the release is something that isn’t a dollar store bin album remastered. If you can truly only buy the remastering of a hard to find record through VMP, I don’t think they would lose a ton of subscribers personally. People still buy the albums because of what music is on it foremost. Do people get sucked into the FOMO and color variant aspects of certain releases? Of course. I do sometimes too. I just don’t think that if VMP pressed Channel Orange on black vinyl instead of an orange color that people wouldn’t buy it.
 
See I don’t think people care about black on ROTM, as @Dead C pointed out with the classics subscription. If it’s a good album in need of reissuing and is an exclusive remaster, people will buy it.

It’s the store exclusives that would take the most hit if they stopped doing color variants since it’s becoming increasingly the case that those are often limited color variants available elsewhere. Nobody knows subscription numbers but I’m assuming a lot of members buy those exclusives too and it’s a steady cash flow for VMP. I don’t think many people sub only for exclusives now though since true exclusives are so few and far between.

This info is a couple of years old but a staff member (possibly PaulyB or Storf ) confirmed on old forum that a good wedge of subcribers who choose the main track didn’t visit or were even aware of the old forum. They simply waited for the essential to arrive largely ignoring the online store too. This was probably even before the two extra tracks were added.
 
hah, though i'd argue that may be a bad example just due to that artists reach/fan base

I think Spiritualized would be a better example, great, great record sure, critics love it sure take away the color aspect, as far as I know this is a true remaster, could that alone carry that track? And i'm not saying 1000-3000 of these won't go, but, its something i wonder
I think it would, personally. I don't think anybody is buying that album because it's a colored variant. Everybody I've seen who wants to buy it wants to because no good pressing of it really exists yet. I haven't seen a single person go "ooh it's a dark blue pressing! gotta have it!"

But again, I'm in a bit of a bubble when it comes to these things as I assume quite a few of us are.
 
I think it would, personally. I don't think anybody is buying that album because it's a colored variant. Everybody I've seen who wants to buy it wants to because no good pressing of it really exists yet. I haven't seen a single person go "ooh it's a dark blue pressing! gotta have it!"

But again, I'm in a bit of a bubble when it comes to these things as I assume quite a few of us are.
well, thats what i mean, that would be an exception no matter what color it is, just due to what it is, that also i think would be an event for VMP ala like QOTSA but even way bigger
 
well, thats what i mean, that would be an exception no matter what color it is, just due to what it is, that also i think would be an event for VMP ala like QOTSA but even way bigger
I'm confused about what you are asking then hah. If your question is, would VMP lose subscribers if they only sold readily available albums on black vinyl as ROTM, then yes, they would hah. If the exclusivity of the pressing/remaster stays the same as it is now, IMO people will not care if it's on black vinyl. I can't speak to every VMP subscriber but I first joined when they announced Demon Days on vinyl because I had wanted it for forever and could not afford an OG pressing. I didn't care that it was on red vinyl.

I really dislike VMP's business practices and unsubscribed after I had recurring issues. But I will probably re-sign up for the 1 month for Spiritualized and MAYBE Buena Vista Social Club...
 
I'm confused about what you are asking then hah. If your question is, would VMP lose subscribers if they only sold readily available albums on black vinyl as ROTM, then yes, they would hah. If the exclusivity of the pressing/remaster stays the same as it is now, IMO people will not care if it's on black vinyl. I can't speak to every VMP subscriber but I first joined when they announced Demon Days on vinyl because I had wanted it for forever and could not afford an OG pressing. I didn't care that it was on red vinyl.

I really dislike VMP's business practices and unsubscribed after I had recurring issues. But I will probably re-sign up for the 1 month for Spiritualized and MAYBE Buena Vista Social Club...
haha, let me try this

so i guess barring an album like Channel Orange, because that record I think would sell no matter packaging color. If we take Spiritualized, assuming it's a decent remaster, and the packaging is up to standard, would it be safe to say if VMP just released this essential as black and no mention of color, the sub impact for this track would be minimal at best?
 
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