Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

[Btsvinylfarm]

Mod at /r/VinylMePlease has now started a survey to decide if we can still talk about Vinceron, claiming that it's just giving him free advertising.

He started the survey at 1am, and will close it at 6am.

Like, wut?! Defying all logic and otherwise obvious cries from the community, the poll results are showing "Don't talk about him" by a large margin.

This is so fucky.

It's the same mod that handed out the bans, and it seems somewhat disingenuous to conduct a poll in the dead of night to determine if we can keep talking about the guy everyone is currently talking about.

Also, he's concerned because Vinceron just tweeted out that Reddit is giving him lots of business right now. 1) He's a habitual liar. 2) His bragging makes me think the opposite is true.

I think he's shook. Hence the defensive tweets, and the mod is either buying it hook line & sinker, or he's trying to quell the debate.

That sub is not well moderated most of the time, honestly. I've had discussions with some of the mods. Most are okay. One of them is causing this issue right now. They should get together and have a real discussion about how their actions have caused this issue to spiral out of control.

 

[Selaws]

I'm so excited for the Wednesday store drops!!! Hoping we get a really nice surprise! Maybe some D'Angelo or JPEGMAFIA or Natalia Lafourcade or Gorillaz or OutKast...or maybe we'll finally get De La Soul's Stakes Is High!!!

Lol, what am I even saying?!?

Looking forward to waking up seeing what exclusives drop in store still! It might not be anything I want, but with how boring everything is at the moment with COVID-19, I am absolutely excited to see what will drop in store soon!

I wonder if they are going to do an exclusive of Lianne La Havas' new album? Its a fantastic release if you haven't already heard it, I certainly think you would like it @NathanRicaud

 

[NathanRicaud]

I don’t think you mean it this way, but can we please all agree that the racist murder of a man is not in the same league as someone flipping vinyl. ☹

Of course they are not in the same league! You definitely can't compare the two from all aspects really. Like one of them is directly related to VMP, the other isn't. And one of them is a severe, unforgiving kind of crime, whereas the other isn't even really a crime; even though it's still frustrating.

 

[NathanRicaud]

I wonder if they are going to do an exclusive of Lianne La Havas' new album? Its a fantastic release if you haven't already heard it, I certainly think you would like it @NathanRicaud

I doubt it because the album is already out, already has a few colour variants, and VMP have never touched any of Lianne La Havas' albums before. I can't see it happening at all!

I've heard the album like 4-5 times and am in love! I purchased a copy from Amazon that hasn't shipped yet! Looking forward to when I receive it! Definitely in my top 5 albums of 2020 so far! ♥

 

[Bluecloud777]

I don’t think you mean it this way, but can we please all agree that the racist murder of a man is not in the same league as someone flipping vinyl. ☹

Of course they are not in the same league! You definitely can't compare the two from all aspects really. Like one of them is directly related to VMP, the other isn't. And one of them is a severe, unforgiving kind of crime, whereas the other isn't even really a crime; even though it's still frustrating.

Sorry if my expression came across as wanting to compare these things. That wasn't my goal. Of course they're not comparable by any means.

I just meant that it would be in the own interest of VMP to comment on that Vinceron situation as it seems that many VMP members at least on reddit are very unhappy about someone apparently getting access to lots of limited records (either through dark channels or by having dozens of accounts) while other members who want to buy them for a regular price aren't able to get them. I think this is causing some harm for VMP.

 

[MikeH]

Yikes. I'm just catching up on the recent drama.

Pretty fucked up move by the mods to do that. Thank God this place exists - the VMP sub is NOT a suitable replacement for the old forums. Which one of them thought censorship was the way to go? Same way they censored my damn pizza satire post and inspired Very Meaty Pizza. What are they thinking? Are they trying to protect their relationship with Storf/Pauly?

And fuck VMP for allowing this. Either they're artificially reducing stock and allowing markup resellers to play their shitty game, or Vinceron has tons of duplicate accounts and they are doing nothing to combat it.

So I’m the one who originally posted on reddit about MM Food being flipped by Vinceron. I didn’t think it would get as many eyeballs on it as it has. I figured most people had already heard of Vinceron but I’ve been on that subreddit for a long time and only recently realized how big it has gotten. There was originally a comment from the mods saying “we will leave this up but only since you asked Pauly a question in the comments”. I had asked Pauly to comment on how one user gets so many ROTMs.

Then, I got a notification from one of the mods that said something along the lines of “we have deleted your post. Please do not post this again.” So I messaged the mod and asked why it was deleted, said it didn’t break any rules and if anything Vinceron should be banned after how they reacted to people and insulted them. In the thread, Vinceron bragged about having hundreds of accounts, denied that the eBay account is theirs (it absolutely is the same company...what are the odds of two companies located in the same small town selling huge amounts of all of the same flipper stock??) and insulted people left and right. The mods told me I had done nothing wrong but the thread was getting out of hand and they felt they needed to either take the thread down or ban Vinceron and they did both. The reasoning made sense to me at the time and I didn’t wanna start anything else from it. I didn’t know users were getting hit with temp bans for talking about Vinceron.

I do sort of understand the aspect of it being free advertising for Vinceron, but most people on the thread were staunchly against him. The guy also seems like a habitual liar so anything he tweets about to his handful of followers is not to be trusted. The whole situation is weird. Maybe VMP will be forced to address it but I truly doubt it.

 

[Btsvinylfarm]

The mods told me I had done nothing wrong but the thread was getting out of hand and they felt they needed to either take the thread down or ban Vinceron and they did both.

This is where I take issue with how that sub is moderated (as a mod of r/vinylcollectors, which is a larger sub with nearly 5x the subscribers) - the obvious answer was to ban Vinceron and allow discussion about it to be contained to one thread. Instead, by not being able to choose the obvious option and by deleting the self-contained post and banning users, they opened a can of worms for a post titled "The VMP Oligarchy" lol

It's just bad moderation.

I do sort of understand the aspect of it being free advertising for Vinceron, but most people on the thread were staunchly against him. The guy also seems like a habitual liar so anything he tweets about to his handful of followers is not to be trusted. The whole situation is weird. Maybe VMP will be forced to address it but I truly doubt it.

I don't buy the "free advertising" bit at all, and Vinceron's Twitter account (the personal account) has ~2K followers which are likely purchased as he gets almost no engagement on any Tweets. He's yelling into the void and likely lying his ass of - he is a former poker player, after all. I guess the mod at r/VMP took the bluff.

And then this "poll" was just a toxic FU from the one Mod in question. It was completely childish and pathetic:

A 1am-6am poll conducted to provide the answer they wanted, with a pretty clear intent in the post and a sarcastic "You asked. You have it", and then locking the post for comments.

That sub is just a disaster right now, and the Mods need to get their shit together.

 

[MikeH]

This is where I take issue with how that sub is moderated (as a mod of r/vinylcollectors, which is a larger sub with nearly 5x the subscribers) - the obvious answer was to ban Vinceron and allow discussion about it to be contained to one thread. Instead, by not being able to choose the obvious option and by deleting the self-contained post and banning users, they opened a can of worms for a post titled "The VMP Oligarchy" lol

It's just bad moderation.

I don't buy the "free advertising" bit at all, and Vinceron's Twitter account (the personal account) has ~2K followers which are likely purchased as he gets almost no engagement on any Tweets. He's yelling into the void and likely lying his ass of - he is a former poker player, after all. I guess the mod at r/VMP took the bluff.

And then this "poll" was just a toxic FU from the one Mod in question. It was completely childish and pathetic:

A 1am-6am poll conducted to provide the answer they wanted, with a pretty clear intent in the post and a sarcastic "You asked. You have it", and then locking the post for comments.

That sub is just a disaster right now, and the Mods need to get their shit together.

I agree with most of this. As for the guy bluffing, it's highly likely. I have seen people posting links to his site/account and selling stuff though on various reddit subs but with his prices being high on a bunch of stuff, I don't see him selling enough to warrant taking the post down. Overall, I didn't want to make a big stink about it on the subreddit because I didn't think it was worth it. I called attention to Vinceron and now the issue has attention haha.

They did extend the poll (which I agree is stupid and wasn't very fair) btw after people questioned it, but it's heavily tilted towards banning any Vinceron talk sadly.

Also shoutout to r/vinylcollectors. Appreciate you modding that community. It's awesome.

 

[Btsvinylfarm]

I agree with most of this. As for the guy bluffing, it's highly likely. I have seen people posting links to his site/account and selling stuff though on various reddit subs but with his prices being high on a bunch of stuff, I don't see him selling enough to warrant taking the post down. Overall, I didn't want to make a big stink about it on the subreddit because I didn't think it was worth it. I called attention to Vinceron and now the issue has attention haha.

That's for sure!

Also shoutout to r/vinylcollectors. Appreciate you modding that community. It's awesome.

I appreciate that! The entire mod team deserves the kudos - they are a great team to be part of. We've had our issues of scammers and such, but I think we've done the best we can to create a safe trading/selling/buying environment!

 

[waruv]

Yeah, I love Vinylcollectors, it's such a good sub. It's one of the very rare subreddits I feel safe buying in and it's pretty easy to work through and a multi-times-per-day check at this point.

The Vinceron thing...man. The funny thing is that the core "scandal" itself really isn't abnormal. Like Funko does this with their exclusives and some re-sellers (Gemini, Popcultcha, etc.) all the time. Ticketmaster got a ton of flack for backdooring tickets through third party sellers. Heck, even musicians will frequently have an agreement to do this as part of their promotional packages and the like. I imagine it's common in a slew of other hobbies and activities. The community mods there really messed up the handling of it though so bad, like, you'd have to try for it to go that badly.. Vinceron probably should have just been outright banned from there the second he started getting antagonistic with community members and the "ban + one thread" solution was by far the easy and right call here with no member bans for asking questions about it.

 

[kvetcha]

This is where I take issue with how that sub is moderated (as a mod of r/vinylcollectors, which is a larger sub with nearly 5x the subscribers) - the obvious answer was to ban Vinceron and allow discussion about it to be contained to one thread. Instead, by not being able to choose the obvious option and by deleting the self-contained post and banning users, they opened a can of worms for a post titled "The VMP Oligarchy" lol

It's just bad moderation.

I don't buy the "free advertising" bit at all, and Vinceron's Twitter account (the personal account) has ~2K followers which are likely purchased as he gets almost no engagement on any Tweets. He's yelling into the void and likely lying his ass of - he is a former poker player, after all. I guess the mod at r/VMP took the bluff.

And then this "poll" was just a toxic FU from the one Mod in question. It was completely childish and pathetic:

A 1am-6am poll conducted to provide the answer they wanted, with a pretty clear intent in the post and a sarcastic "You asked. You have it", and then locking the post for comments.

That sub is just a disaster right now, and the Mods need to get their shit together.

Yeah, I'm hardly in on this drama, but that mod's responses were disastrous.

 

[uvwxVinyl]

Matt fiedler furiously googling how to shut down Reddit I'm sure

 

[Skalap]

Matt fiedler furiously googling how to shut down Reddit I'm sure

I love that the pool is between 1am and 6am because what would they do with more time?

 

[TheThinWhiteDuke]

Matt fiedler furiously googling how to shut down Reddit I'm sure

What would you do with more subs?

 

[Skalap]

What would you do with more subs?

More money! More warped records! More unsatisfied customers!

 

[KenKaniff]

Speaking of Reddit --- /vinyljerk has to be the worst Reddit community right?

It makes me hate this hobby.

 

[radiodead]

I get maybe 1-2 records from VMP a month now. Used to be wayyyyy more. I’m starting to put my money into buffing up my Criterion Blu-Ray collection. Which supplies a way better product for about $20-$30 a pop if I buy during sales. No brainer.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

Speaking of Reddit --- /vinyljerk has to be the worst Reddit community right?

It makes me hate this hobby.

I dislike r/vinyljerk but I also hate r/vinyl I think they are both terrible communities and r/VinylJerk was just a reaction all the crap posts on r/vinyl . I ended up unfollowing r/vinyl because I found it infuriating but r/vinyljerk is just smarmy shitposts. Also, mocking bad posts by making bad post as an attempt at parody still results in a bunch of terrible posts especially when there are only like 4 or 5 jokes that all posts hit on.
still it’s Reddit, I am sure there are way worse subs, I think r/redpill still exists after the recent purge. I am sure whatever sub that all the ex-r/the_donald husks are now clamoring to would probably be the worst.

 

[waruv]

I get maybe 1-2 records from VMP a month now. Used to be wayyyyy more. I’m starting to put my money into buffing up my Criterion Blu-Ray collection. Which supplies a way better product for about $20-$30 a pop if I buy during sales. No brainer.

I grabbed a couple during the recent 50% off sale and...yeah I definitely get now why people go nuts over them. Can't afford that hobby and don't have enough film background to really embrace it, but it's such a nice HQ product even for newer films that don't need a ton more.

 

[Colonel4Bin]

I'm so excited for the Wednesday store drops!!! Hoping we get a really nice surprise! Maybe some D'Angelo or JPEGMAFIA or Natalia Lafourcade or Gorillaz or OutKast...or maybe we'll finally get De La Soul's Stakes Is High!!!

Lol, what am I even saying?!?

Looking forward to waking up seeing what exclusives drop in store still! It might not be anything I want, but with how boring everything is at the moment with COVID-19, I am absolutely excited to see what will drop in store soon!

Kinda hoping for some more World music, maybe

Shabaka is down to two copies. Whelp I did it guys. I refused to give in and pay $39 and VMP refused to offer it as a swap. I feel... fine. :|

According to reddit, it’s gone back up to over 300