Joe Mac
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We will when they arrive...
Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)
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We will when they arrive...
NathanRicaud
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Joe Mac
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I’ll be honest even if they were perfect that’s likely true. Hipster brands in niche luxury products struggle to ride out those storms regardless of their “value” or the product.
Btsvinylfarm
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Btsvinylfarm
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I always tell my wife that I live in constant fear of a mild recession because I'll lose all of my favorite record shops and craft breweries. Where will I get my New England IPAs and audiophile albums!?
Those types of places are ticking time bombs.
Joe Mac
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I always tell my wife that I live in constant fear of a mild recession because I'll lose all of my favorite record shops and craft breweries. Where will I get my New England IPAs and audiophile albums!?
Those types of places are ticking time bombs.
I always felt the best ones survive. Last recession was really rough on Ireland. We are a really small country and had a catastrophic level of banking collapse. hmv and a few come lately gouger hipster record stores went to the wall. Tower (who are an independent here but a HUGE premises) and the best small indies survived because of fair pricing, stock levels and the good relationships that they had built with their customers.
JonnyH
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Is it though?
JonnyH
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I always tell my wife that I live in constant fear of a mild recession because I'll lose all of my favorite record shops and craft breweries. Where will I get my New England IPAs and audiophile albums!?
Those types of places are ticking time bombs.
:gestures at US imports and exports: We're not officially in a recession until we've had X number of months of decline, I'm convinced it's just a matter of time now.
Dead C
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Does anyone know what's going on with the Chance albums? ETA?
I'd ask that question over on the pre-order thread since it's not VMP related. You might have more luck
NathanRicaud
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Yes! It’s like a bit claustrophobic, yet so warm, cute, dizzying and comforting. I feel like it is an actual unique sound. It’s not just dreamy and sensual and romantic, it has that stuffy, claustrophobic element that is unique!
Hollywood
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If they ever arrive...sigh!
Ericj32
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wait - so you live in a place where hmv no linger exists, but Tower Records does?
TimmahTao
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AudioAce
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Not a fan of Still Woozy. Tried listening to it a few times and didn't hit me. I wish it hit me like it hit @NathanRicaud
displayname
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I think *this* screw up will force *some* fixes. Like @Btsvinylfarm I don't think they are actually capable of fixing everything. But I agree with his point that this site migration is hitting their spreadsheets HARD. During what should be their money making season as well. I can't even imagine how much their execs are quietly sweating right now. They likely considered the new store and site a major investment, and now it's become a major unexpected expense that is going to hurt them visibly for at least Q4 and Q1. We may not get to hear about it, but someone will be fired. But given the way VMP is structured to our knowledge, it will likely be a 3rd party that did the migration, and they likely will have their contract terminated early.
First and foremost - PREACH! Speaking with your wallet is the most powerful thing you can do with a company.
However, I said before, this particular series of issues has to be hitting their books hard. And not just now, but it will continue to hurt them into next year. Between some dropping renewals, refunds, represses, excess shipping charges... you know the list. There is no way this doesn't make a major blip on the bottom line for this quarter and next. Honestly, if I was in their shoes I would be worried about some artists wanting to cancel exclusives or even a ROTM. There is no way they have been able to keep this from partners at this point. And that will REALLY show up when Q4 numbers come in (I do wish we could somehow see those). That is unless they did enough business pre-holiday shopping to somehow offset all of this. But I can't imagine they land anywhere close to their original projections.
Another point that's annoying about financials and the Q by Q view that tends to get hyper focus in VC backed companies... VMP might actually be avoiding some things so it doesn't hit the bottom line as hard this quarter.
Every refund request they move to the bottom of the stack until Jan 1, well that stays off the Q4 bottom line. It's not processed losses or debt yet. Same thing with anyone cancelling subs now. Will they hire new staff or temps to help expedite things or get packages rolling... not in Q4. It's a bad time to take on new expenses. It's actually possible that firing the migration company and not hiring a new one until 2020 is considered a "win" on a spreadsheet because it lowers a major expense. Strategic cost cutting. Can't go over budget in the home stretch. Just ride it out till Q1 and they can adjust their projections before hand. At the end of the day they still are dumping money they should have made, but when it's spread out "correctly" it's "good financial management" that helps "leaders" keep their jobs.
Honestly, the VMP Shitshow is kind of becoming my favorite reality TV show, only it's on a forum on the internet. I hate being a customer, but purely from the outside perspective I have a bowl of popcorn and I'm just waiting to see what could possibly happen next. I thought 25 Mobb Deep records to one person was the season finale, but oh no, VMP decided to announce a mail-em-back raffle with nearly impossible logistics... while logistics is currently their biggest problem! And they they just stopped responding to customer emails? And most customers don't have shipping notices with only two business days left in the business window? How are these crazy kooks going to handle this one? And what about that unknown amount of unfulfilled Fiona orders that are also supposed to ship this month? What could POSSIBLY happen next? I don't know, but I'm kind of curious, lol.
Mather
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At this point I tolerate them because they are still the only game in town if you live in Canada, and their prices while high for the locals are still not that much higher than buying most new releases here. I will also say that despite all their f*ckups they haven't actually affected me too much as of yet. I had two items that were oversold in the fire sale last year that I never received, but other than that CS has generally made things right by me. When that stops happening, or they start overselling things out from under me, I will likely go.
Also I only have about 380 records as of yet so I will have lots of gaps in my collection that the occasional exclusive or swap can fill. I certainly don't love the way they're operating now vs when I first joined two years ago, but I'll freely admit that I would miss them if they were gone. I like getting a record in the mail every month and without their service in Canada there is no other choice.
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Joe Mac
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Yes! I live in Narnia! When tower went to the wall the Irish stores were still profitable and so the management bought it out and so they still exist in two store locations in Dublin as an independent record store!
MattHasIdeas
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That's not the sole reason you got banned...
I didn't mind your pizza thread. I'm not the mod responsible for removing your shitpost. I'm a fan of the shitposts.
Yeah... All those adjectives probably apply. I was feeling saucy. Fuck it. I'm not removing it. I personally don't remove threads unless I feel they really cross the line.
Dead C
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If you're waiting on a product you paid for, you're being charged for shit that you didn't agree to, and/or you're not getting your money back, then this doesn't really apply.