Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

mcherry said:
This is the first I’ve heard about the fbi but VMP staff on the other forum have mentioned getting threatening emails in the past.
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I don't trust the source of the information.

But lets say this is true. I'm not sure of how it works in the US, but if someone issues a death threat, do you call the FBI or the police?
 
marshall said:
I came in here to get info on today’s store releases. Collecting records has never been so stressful. Peace I’m outta this thread.
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The short version is that the Sonny Rollins is just a recolor of an earlier pressing you can get much cheaper elsewhere, Lil Kim is sexy 90s nostalgia candy, and...shucks, I don’t know much about the other two albums, except they didn’t do anything for me when I listened to a couple songs each from them.
 
johnpisme said:
I'm not done with them. I am anthology customer and that is not over. I didn't say I was done with them, but that I don't know what would make me give them more business in the future. Are they going to become a company that does stuff right and doesn't allow (arguably encourage) their customers to be treated like shit while attempting to get sympathy for some people threatening them? Maybe if that future plays out and they have a record I really want I will buy it from them.

It's cool if you don't have answers to my questions. But if I didn't have interest I wouldn't have responded at all, let alone make such a long and specific response.

Did you not at all get the impression that they were trying to glad hand you and pass along things that you would disseminate here to try to sway opinion here a bit?
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I seriously have been a huge critic of theirs. I have chosen to stay a member though, others haven’t. I left in all my doubts in my statement. No one from VMP asked me to post on here, I knew people who are still members have interest and would like to see things improve so I shared whether or not I thought from the conversation that it will. I am not sure it will but Lloyd is new to the company and I got the impression he knows how to get things done so it gives me hope. VMP has run out of chances for some. Having invested five years into VMP it is hard for me to just end my relationship. I personally am willing to give them time because there is much I still like even with all the problems. The problems have tested me, had I been a new member I probably would have made a different choice.
 
supahypeag said:
Soooo.....

I totally swapped Bobo and got Alice Coltrane. I feel really good about it. That little bit of surgery made this month’s haul a lot more better
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Coltrane's great. Not sure how much longer that one will be sticking around in the store, too. I need to bug storf on an updated Classics inventory list.

While I was initially disappointed in all three of this month's selections, it at least gives me a chance to jump on my backlog of swaptions. Right now I'm swapping for the Lightmen Plus One.
 
goodoohuru said:
I don't trust the source of the information.

But lets say this is true. I'm not sure of how it works in the US, but if someone issues a death threat, do you call the FBI or the police?
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I would imagine that a lot of the threats were from people in different states than the people being threatened. I'm not very knowledgeable on how these things work, but I think this is why the FBI vs. local or even state police are who handles it.
 
Enoch said:
I seriously have been a huge critic of theirs. I have chosen to stay a member though, others haven’t. I left in all my doubts in my statement. No one from VMP asked me to post on here, I knew people who are still members have interest and would like to see things improve so I shared whether or not I thought from the conversation that it will. I am not sure it will but Lloyd is new to the company and I got the impression he knows how to get things done so it gives me hope. VMP has run out of chances for some. Having invested five years into VMP it is hard for me to just end my relationship. I personally am willing to give them time because there is much I still like even with all the problems. The problems have tested me, had I been a new member I probably would have made a different choice.
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Oh I totally recognize that you have been very critical of VMP. I've seen it here and on the FB group. I'm not one of the people who think you are a "VMP apologist". I dont think anyone at VMP asked you to post here and I believe you are doing it to openly share info with people who might be interested (I am one of those people).
 
johnpisme said:
Oh I totally recognize that you have been very critical of VMP. I've seen it here and on the FB group. I'm not one of the people who think you are a "VMP apologist". I dont think anyone at VMP asked you to post here and I believe you are doing it to openly share info with people who might be interested (I am one of those people).
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Thanks for saying that.
 
@Enoch, I don't think you're a good person. I know you're a great person. You have regularly helped people find peace in their darkest hours, and there are not a lot of people who can do that. Records are just stuff. You actually deal with far more important things. The world needs more people like you.

I do think your behavior here, as far as questioning why people keep posting in this thread, is a bit off-putting though. People are responding to a conversation you started. If you don't want to have a conversation, don't start one. I don't think anyone needs to justify why they are responding to this thread.
johnpisme said:
I don't think anyone should have to receive death threats, but I'm not sure why he felt it necessary to tell you that.
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My impression is that he knew that information would get passed to this forum and it's an attempt to humanize the company. I suspect that either there was no threat, or it wasn't credible. In the last 6 months I've had two people treated to kill me in person. I knew they were just blowing off steam, and I didn't go crying to the police.
Enoch said:
I get the sense by hiring Lloyd, who seems to know what he is doing (again seems) that this might actually be where they fulfill things they have said in the past.
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I get the sense that by hiring Starr, they are prepping the company to look attractive to potential buyers or investors. That's what Starr did with his last company. I also suspect he was hired because he already lived in Denver so VMP didn't have to pay relocation expenses.

@Enoch, I get the impression you are being used here in the same way that VMP uses the Vinyl Junkies YouTube guy. The Vinyl Junkies guy has over 4000 followers on YT so it makes sense to have him shill for them. When I asked him if he was receiving free product from VMP in return for making videos about them, he blocked me.

I get the impression that you are by far the most prolific poster on this forum, so you reach a lot of people. It makes sense that VMP would want to use you to disseminate propaganda here. You buy all their stuff anyway so I'm sure they don't compensate you in any way like they do the VJ guy, but I do think they are taking advantage of your kind nature and genuine willingness to help others.

I don't think you're helping anything here, but that is just my opinion. I can't speak for others. My (unsolicited) advice is to stop being their conduit to this forum, and keep buying their products if that is what makes you happy. They need you more than you need them. You're a good person. Don't let them use you.
 
High Rant District said:
@Enoch, I don't think you're a good person. I know you're a great person. You have regularly helped people find peace in their darkest hours, and there are not a lot of people who can do that. Records are just stuff. You actually deal with far more important things. The world needs more people like you.

I do think your behavior here, as far as questioning why people keep posting in this thread, is a bit off-putting though. People are responding to a conversation you started. If you don't want to have a conversation, don't start one. I don't think anyone needs to justify why they are responding to this thread.

My impression is that he knew that information would get passed to this forum and it's an attempt to humanize the company. I suspect that either there was no threat, or it wasn't credible. In the last 6 months I've had two people treated to kill me in person. I knew they were just blowing off steam, and I didn't go crying to the police.

I get the sense that by hiring Starr, they are prepping the company to look attractive to potential buyers or investors. That's what Starr did with his last company. I also suspect he was hired because he already lived in Denver so VMP didn't have to pay relocation expenses.

@Enoch, I get the impression you are being used here in the same way that VMP uses the Vinyl Junkies YouTube guy. The Vinyl Junkies guy has over 4000 followers on YT so it makes sense to have him shill for them. When I asked him if he was receiving free product from VMP in return for making videos about them, he blocked me.

I get the impression that you are by far the most prolific poster on this forum, so you reach a lot of people. It makes sense that VMP would want to use you to disseminate propaganda here. You buy all their stuff anyway so I'm sure they don't compensate you in any way like they do the VJ guy, but I do think they are taking advantage of your kind nature and genuine willingness to help others.

I don't think you're helping anything here, but that is just my opinion. I can't speak for others. My (unsolicited) advice is to stop being their conduit to this forum, and keep buying their products if that is what makes you happy. They need you more than you need them. You're a good person. Don't let them use you.
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If I felt I was being used, I would seriously stop. I really do appreciate your comments though. My questioning stems for what I have perceived as people piling on VMZ just to do so. I could be very wrong in my assessment. I do want to dialogue but if people are commenting because to be anti VMP on a VMP thread I truly wonder why they need to and what purpose it serves for any of us.
 
Clint Howard said:
Not to sidetrack this but isn't it normal for VMP to offer store titles as swaptions? I'm looking at what there is to swap for this month and I've seent a lot of store titles that aren't up for swap. Anyone know what's up?
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Storf said a while back in the Before Time, The Long Long Ago they rotate the swap selection so it isn’t stale. So you will see stuff come in an out of the swap selection from month to month. However, as it’s been stated here you can email them if there is something specific you want and generally they will let you swap with what you want.
 
Enoch said:
If I felt I was being used, I would seriously stop. I really do appreciate your comments though. My questioning stems for what I have perceived as people piling on VMZ just to do so. I could be very wrong in my assessment. I do want to dialogue but if people are commenting because to be anti VMP on a VMP thread I truly wonder why they need to and what purpose it serves for any of us.
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If people can't complain about VMP in the VMP thread, where can they? This is the right thread for it.
 
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