Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

Enoch said:
And you didn't ask me to clarify,
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goodoohuru said:
what was the point of it?
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Enoch said:
you immediately put me down
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goodoohuru said:
I wont give you a hard time about your """reflections""" comment because I do like you
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Enoch said:
and said this wasn't helpful because most no longer care.
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goodoohuru said:
@Enoch with regard to VMP, for some of us, there is no future.
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You're reading this forum in English arent you?

Something has changed in you @Enoch. You use to be about the music, now its about a company that sells music. I hope everything is OK.
 
Enoch said:
I wouldn't make these types of jokes, it is in very poor taste.
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Enoch said:
I knew it was sarcasm, but sarcasm about people receiving death threats seems incredibly insensitive to what they actually go through receiving them. I get it is stupid to get to that level about a vinyl company but it doesn't change the fact that real people are behind the receiving end of the threats.
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I mean I guess it’s insensitive but I do find humor in how ridiculous people are. Rick & Morty fans sending McDonalds death threats over a sauce, people threatening Wendy’s over spicy nuggets, some idiot sending VMP threats over records. I realize real mental illness exists, but hell, I have to take a step back and laugh at how stupid all of that is.
 
johnpisme said:
I don't think anyone should have to receive death threats, but I'm not sure why he felt it necessary to tell you that.
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He shared because people on the forum dehumanized staff at times and that elevated outside of the forum to things more serious.
johnpisme said:
My main takeaway from your posts is that there is no real replacement for the forum coming and that that was another lie as well.
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Would you want another forum by them? They are working on other ways to build community, no real specifics yet (there is a decent beginning of a plan), I get that is a "we are working on it" response but it really is being worked on, they have had conversations with other members on how to design it.
 
goodoohuru said:
there is no future
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goodoohuru said:
Sorry if I've missed something mate
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these portions told me in the context of the rest of your comment that you weren't interested in dialogue. If you really have questions please ask
goodoohuru said:
now its about a company that sells music
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In this thread, yes I am talking about VMP because it is a VMP thread and the music they are selling. I don't bring this up in other threads because they are about the music, saying you think something may be wrong with me is not helpful and doesn't encourage me to interact with you.

Crabbers said:
Nope...we are all good here. Do you want another forum by them?
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nope and I told him that
 
wingclipper said:
I mean I guess it’s insensitive but I do find humor in how ridiculous people are. Rick & Morty fans sending McDonalds death threats over a sauce, people threatening Wendy’s over spicy nuggets, some idiot sending VMP threats over records. I realize real mental illness exists, but hell, I have to take a step back and laugh at how stupid all of that is.
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There is a difference though, you are directing the joke at a very specific group, a group that received death threats. Making a general joke that isn't directed at anyone is a different thing altogether. I agree that them receiving threats about this is ridiculous.
 
Enoch said:
these portions told me in the context of the rest of your comment that you weren't interested in dialogue. If you really have questions please ask
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So what about this portion of my comment, does this help, does this convince you that I had a question?

goodoohuru said:
Is the intention for you to try and fix Vinyl Me, Please via the N&G community?

Sorry if I've missed something mate.
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No sorry, don't fucking bother mate, what a joke!
 
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Enoch said:
He shared because people on the forum dehumanized staff at times and that elevated outside of the forum to things more serious.

Would you want another forum by them? They are working on other ways to build community, no real specifics yet (there is a decent beginning of a plan), I get that is a "we are working on it" response but it really is being worked on, they have had conversations with other members on how to design it.
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Again, that doesn't explain what telling you they've received death threats accomplishes. It is not going to solve the problem. It should not stop anyone from criticizing their lack of ability to do their jobs well. I only see it as an attempt to get sympathy for something none of us are responsible for. I think they should handle all death threats seriously and I think they should respond to people personally attacking them in an appropriate fashion as well. I feel like that was just trying to score "points". Just one aspect of the PR campaign that it sounds like this meeting basically was.

At the same time, the way they have handled the FB page speaks volumes to me in the context of what you have said. Did you ask anything about why it has been run the way it has? Did them receiving death threats make them unable to moderate the group? Did the fact that they took criticism personally make them decide to allow all the sycophants harassing the "complainers" to keep going about their business? This is the most recent "community" that they have been "running" and it is possibly the worst shithole I've ever participated in. And the fact that they basically acknowledged that the forum being "paused" to resume in a new form at a later date was a lie is my main takeaway from what you said about ways they are looking to build community in the future.

Do I want a new forum from them? Of course not. I don't know if I will ever want anything from them again. But that's not due to bitterness, it is a direct result of them running the majority of things I've experienced from them so badly that I don't know what would make me overlook that in the future to do business with them again.
 
johnpisme said:
Again, that doesn't explain what telling you they've received death threats accomplishes. It is not going to solve the problem. It should not stop anyone for criticizing their lack of ability to do their jobs well. I only see it as an attempt to get sympathy for something none of us are responsible for. I think they should handle all death threats seriously and I think they should respond to people personally attacking them in an appropriate fashion as well.

At the same time, the way they have handled the FB page speaks volumes to me in the context of what you have said. Did you ask anything about why it has been run the way it has? Did them receiving death threats make them unable to moderate the group? Did the fact that they took criticism personally make them decide to allow all the sycophants harassing the "complainers" to keep going about their business? This is the most recent "community" that they have been "running" and it is possibly the worst shithole I've ever participated in. And the fact that they basically acknowledged that the forum being "paused" to resume in a new form at a later date was a lie is my main takeaway from what you said about ways they are looking to build community in the future.

Do I want a new forum from them? Of course not. I don't know if I will ever want anything from them again. But that's not due to bitterness, it is a direct result of them running the majority of things I've experienced from them so badly that I don't know what would make me overlook that in the future to do business with them again.
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So why do you care about responding to my post if you have no interest in VMP anymore. I don’t mean this rhetorically. I am genuinely curious.
 
johnpisme said:
I think I asked specific questions about things I was curious about.
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I don’t have answers to those, I had a conversation about many things but I wasn’t going to get an answer to every possible question which includes the ones you asked. But I still am interested in why you are following this if you are done with VMP.
 
Enoch said:
I don’t have answers to those, I had a conversation about many things but I wasn’t going to get an answer to every possible question which includes the ones you asked. But I still am interested in why you are following this if you are done with VMP.
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I'm not done with them. I am anthology customer and that is not over. I didn't say I was done with them, but that I don't know what would make me give them more business in the future. Are they going to become a company that does stuff right and doesn't allow (arguably encourage) their customers to be treated like shit while attempting to get sympathy for some people threatening them? Maybe if that future plays out and they have a record I really want I will buy it from them.

It's cool if you don't have answers to my questions. But if I didn't have interest I wouldn't have responded at all, let alone make such a long and specific response.

Did you not at all get the impression that they were trying to glad hand you and pass along things that you would disseminate here to try to sway opinion here a bit?
 
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