Joe Mac
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For sure. How financial services, in particular, are still avoiding stringent and effective regulation some 14 years on from 2008 is an absolute global scandal. Proper bankers that lot.
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For sure. How financial services, in particular, are still avoiding stringent and effective regulation some 14 years on from 2008 is an absolute global scandal. Proper bankers that lot.
yukbon
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Arcade Fire’s Win Butler Accused of Sexual Misconduct by Multiple Women; Frontman Responds
Allegations of inappropriate behavior in his life offstage contrast with Butler’s virtuous public reputation. In lengthy comments, the frontman claims his extramarital relationships were consensual.pitchfork.com
This wasn't something I expected to read today
Someone been trolling the set list online
So, not really problematic, I just didn't know that the FBI kept a file on the Monkees. Honestly, I back Mickey's suit, and I would have sued too.
The suit notes that Dolenz, 77, and the three deceased members of the Monkees — singer/guitarist Michael Nesmith, bassist/singer Peter Tork and singer Davy Jones — “were known to have associated with other musicians and individuals whose activities were monitored and/or investigated b the FBI, to include, but not limited to: John Winston Lennon (and the three other Beatles as well) and Jimi Hendrix.”
A portion of the document released by the FBI noted that an FBI informant attended a show on the band’s inaugural 1967 tour, describing, “subliminal messages” that were allegedly depicted on the screen, “which, in the opinion of [informant] constituted ‘left wing intervention of a political nature… These messages and pictures were flashed of riots, in Berkeley, anti-U.S. messages on the war in Vietnam, racial riots in Selma, Alabama, and similar messages which had unfavorable response from the audience.”
The suit notes that Dolenz, 77, and the three deceased members of the Monkees — singer/guitarist Michael Nesmith, bassist/singer Peter Tork and singer Davy Jones — “were known to have associated with other musicians and individuals whose activities were monitored and/or investigated b the FBI, to include, but not limited to: John Winston Lennon (and the three other Beatles as well) and Jimi Hendrix.”
A portion of the document released by the FBI noted that an FBI informant attended a show on the band’s inaugural 1967 tour, describing, “subliminal messages” that were allegedly depicted on the screen, “which, in the opinion of [informant] constituted ‘left wing intervention of a political nature… These messages and pictures were flashed of riots, in Berkeley, anti-U.S. messages on the war in Vietnam, racial riots in Selma, Alabama, and similar messages which had unfavorable response from the audience.”
Micky Dolenz Sues FBI to Get Full File on The Monkees
Hey hey he wants access, and he’s not monkeying around.
www.billboard.com
jamieanderson1968
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I would assume the FBI has a file on every musician from the 60s, excluding Pat Boone and Lawrence Welk
Dtknuckles
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Commie bubbles
Djxfactor511
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Man, I really feel for Feist right now.
"At a pub in Dublin, after rehearsing with my band, I read the same headline you did. We didn’t have any time to prepare for what was coming let alone a chance to decide not to fly across the ocean into the belly of this situation. This has been incredibly difficult for me and I can only imagine how much more difficult it’s been for the people who came forward. More than anything I wish healing to those involved.
This has ignited a conversation that is bigger than me, it’s bigger than my songs and it’s certainly bigger than any rock and roll tour. As I tried to get my bearings and figure out my responsibility in this situation, I received dozens of messages from the people around me, expressing sympathy for the dichotomy I have been pushed into. To stay on tour would symbolize I was either defending or ignoring the harm caused by Win Butler and to leave would imply I was the judge and jury.
I was never here to stand for or with Arcade Fire — I was here to stand on my own two feet on a stage, a place I’ve grown to feel I belong and I’ve earned as my own. I play for my band, my crew, their loved ones and all of our families, and the people who pay their hard-earned money to share space in the collective synergy that is a show. The ebb and flow of my successes, failures, and other decisions affect all of our livelihoods and I recognize how lucky I am to be able to travel the world singing songs about my life, my thoughts and experiences and have that be my career. I’ve never taken that for granted.
My experiences include the same experiences as the many people I have spoken to since the news broke on Saturday, and the many strangers whom I may only be able to reach with this letter, or not at all. We all have a story within a spectrum ranging from baseline toxic masculinity to pervasive misogyny to actually being physically, psychologically, emotionally or sexually assaulted. This situation touches each of our lives and speaks to us in a language unique to each of our processing. There isn't a singular path to heal when you’ve endured any version of the above, nor a singular path to rehabilitate the perpetrators. It can be a lonely road to make sense of ill treatment. I can't solve that by quitting, and I can't solve it by staying. But I can't continue.
Public shaming might cause action, but those actions are made from fear, and fear is not the place we find our best selves or make our best decisions. Fear doesn't precipitate empathy nor healing nor open a safe space for these kinds of conversations to evolve, or for real accountability and remorse to be offered to the people who were harmed.
I’m imperfect and I will navigate this decision imperfectly, but what I’m sure of is the best way to take care of my band and crew and my family is to distance myself from this tour, not this conversation. The last two nights on stage, my songs made this decision for me. Hearing them through this lens was incongruous with what I’ve worked to clarify for myself through my whole career. I’ve always written songs to name my own subtle difficulties, aspire to my best self and claim responsibility when I need to. And I’m claiming my responsibility now and going home.
Leslie"
"At a pub in Dublin, after rehearsing with my band, I read the same headline you did. We didn’t have any time to prepare for what was coming let alone a chance to decide not to fly across the ocean into the belly of this situation. This has been incredibly difficult for me and I can only imagine how much more difficult it’s been for the people who came forward. More than anything I wish healing to those involved.
This has ignited a conversation that is bigger than me, it’s bigger than my songs and it’s certainly bigger than any rock and roll tour. As I tried to get my bearings and figure out my responsibility in this situation, I received dozens of messages from the people around me, expressing sympathy for the dichotomy I have been pushed into. To stay on tour would symbolize I was either defending or ignoring the harm caused by Win Butler and to leave would imply I was the judge and jury.
I was never here to stand for or with Arcade Fire — I was here to stand on my own two feet on a stage, a place I’ve grown to feel I belong and I’ve earned as my own. I play for my band, my crew, their loved ones and all of our families, and the people who pay their hard-earned money to share space in the collective synergy that is a show. The ebb and flow of my successes, failures, and other decisions affect all of our livelihoods and I recognize how lucky I am to be able to travel the world singing songs about my life, my thoughts and experiences and have that be my career. I’ve never taken that for granted.
My experiences include the same experiences as the many people I have spoken to since the news broke on Saturday, and the many strangers whom I may only be able to reach with this letter, or not at all. We all have a story within a spectrum ranging from baseline toxic masculinity to pervasive misogyny to actually being physically, psychologically, emotionally or sexually assaulted. This situation touches each of our lives and speaks to us in a language unique to each of our processing. There isn't a singular path to heal when you’ve endured any version of the above, nor a singular path to rehabilitate the perpetrators. It can be a lonely road to make sense of ill treatment. I can't solve that by quitting, and I can't solve it by staying. But I can't continue.
Public shaming might cause action, but those actions are made from fear, and fear is not the place we find our best selves or make our best decisions. Fear doesn't precipitate empathy nor healing nor open a safe space for these kinds of conversations to evolve, or for real accountability and remorse to be offered to the people who were harmed.
I’m imperfect and I will navigate this decision imperfectly, but what I’m sure of is the best way to take care of my band and crew and my family is to distance myself from this tour, not this conversation. The last two nights on stage, my songs made this decision for me. Hearing them through this lens was incongruous with what I’ve worked to clarify for myself through my whole career. I’ve always written songs to name my own subtle difficulties, aspire to my best self and claim responsibility when I need to. And I’m claiming my responsibility now and going home.
Leslie"
BjorgenFjorgen
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Queen. Hopefully Arcade Fire/the promoters/whoever let her walk away without going after her. I can't imagine the contracts and money on the table for a tour like this.
Djxfactor511
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“We are very sorry to see Leslie go home, but completely understand and respect her decision,” Arcade Fire responded in a statement.
Feist Leaves Arcade Fire Tour, Citing Win Butler Allegations
“I'm claiming my responsibility now and going home.”
Bennnnn
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I love Feist. And her response /decision just amplifies that. It's such a weird position to be in, but she handled it so well.
yukbon
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eh, "the sprawl" is still an amazing song, "no cars go" still jams today just like it did a few years back. it's gross that that dude was like HEY BABY to ladies who were like, actively "ew"'ing and trying to you know, not get assaulted and treated like meat by an asshole, but the songs are not just his and what they made me feel when i was having a hard time of it is not something i'm going to lose just because that dude can't keep it in his pants.
i feel for feist and i feel for regine and i feel for will -- it must really suck to walk away from your brother who you've been in a band with forever. it's not a choice i would make, but i can udnerstand regine being like "ok, this sucks, but i'm going to stand by my man". i wonder how bad it really, really is for will to just wash his hands of it and walk off like that. I haven't really read anything beyond the initial reports and confession because i don't particularly want to hear the salacious details or get into the weeds of it.
Max Sterling
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Never really been a fan, I guess that's okay now.
jamieanderson1968
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Someone find me a gif that says "old privileged man says something totally tone deaf and stupid, people tell him he is an idiot, said old man gets all pissy" all in a 2 second loop.
Bennnnn
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I mean I like Pink Floyd, but I've known for a while that Roger Waters is a dick.
yukbon
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Picture David Gilmour's face when hearing about this, right after putting out a pink floyd single to support Ukraine, on account of his Ukranian family being affected as well. And then like, 5 minutes later someone's going to call him and go "So....will you ever reunite with Roger Waters to play as Pink Floyd again?" for the 900th time.
Eww, Brett, not cool.
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SiriusXM has put Brett Favre’s show “on hold,” a company spokesperson confirmed to Front Office Sports on Sunday as the Mississippi welfare scandal continues to swirl.
Favre hasn’t appeared on Sirius XM since Sept. 13 and the company had been silent about the former Hall of Fame quarterback’s status. SiriusXM’s decision came a day after text messages reported by FOS showed Favre attempted to lobby Mississippi’s welfare agency to fund an indoor football facility at the University of Southern Mississippi.
ESPN Milwaukee also “paused” Brett Favre’s weekly radio appearances, a spokesperson for the station’s ownership group told FOS on Friday.
Good Karma Brands — which owns ESPN Milwaukee’s WKTI-FM and ESPN Radio stations in Denver, Los Angeles, Chicago, and other markets — becomes the first media outlet to sideline the former Green Bay Packers great since scrutiny intensified in recent weeks over Favre‘s ties to receiving funds earmarked for needy families in Mississippi.
Much of the money was diverted to pet projects, including $5 million at Favre’s urging to build a volleyball complex at the University of Southern Mississippi where his daughter played the sport.
ESPN Milwaukee Sidelines Brett Favre Amid Welfare Scandal
Brett Favre has been sidelined by SiriusXM and ESPN Milwaukee as the Mississippi welfare funds scandal swirls.
frontofficesports.com
SiriusXM has put Brett Favre’s show “on hold,” a company spokesperson confirmed to Front Office Sports on Sunday as the Mississippi welfare scandal continues to swirl.
Favre hasn’t appeared on Sirius XM since Sept. 13 and the company had been silent about the former Hall of Fame quarterback’s status. SiriusXM’s decision came a day after text messages reported by FOS showed Favre attempted to lobby Mississippi’s welfare agency to fund an indoor football facility at the University of Southern Mississippi.
ESPN Milwaukee also “paused” Brett Favre’s weekly radio appearances, a spokesperson for the station’s ownership group told FOS on Friday.
Good Karma Brands — which owns ESPN Milwaukee’s WKTI-FM and ESPN Radio stations in Denver, Los Angeles, Chicago, and other markets — becomes the first media outlet to sideline the former Green Bay Packers great since scrutiny intensified in recent weeks over Favre‘s ties to receiving funds earmarked for needy families in Mississippi.
Much of the money was diverted to pet projects, including $5 million at Favre’s urging to build a volleyball complex at the University of Southern Mississippi where his daughter played the sport.
LiamGallaghersBucketHat
Go on, geezer.
Eww, Brett, not cool.
ESPN Milwaukee Sidelines Brett Favre Amid Welfare Scandal
Brett Favre has been sidelined by SiriusXM and ESPN Milwaukee as the Mississippi welfare funds scandal swirls.
SiriusXM has put Brett Favre’s show “on hold,” a company spokesperson confirmed to Front Office Sports on Sunday as the Mississippi welfare scandal continues to swirl.
Favre hasn’t appeared on Sirius XM since Sept. 13 and the company had been silent about the former Hall of Fame quarterback’s status. SiriusXM’s decision came a day after text messages reported by FOS showed Favre attempted to lobby Mississippi’s welfare agency to fund an indoor football facility at the University of Southern Mississippi.
ESPN Milwaukee also “paused” Brett Favre’s weekly radio appearances, a spokesperson for the station’s ownership group told FOS on Friday.
Good Karma Brands — which owns ESPN Milwaukee’s WKTI-FM and ESPN Radio stations in Denver, Los Angeles, Chicago, and other markets — becomes the first media outlet to sideline the former Green Bay Packers great since scrutiny intensified in recent weeks over Favre‘s ties to receiving funds earmarked for needy families in Mississippi.
Much of the money was diverted to pet projects, including $5 million at Favre’s urging to build a volleyball complex at the University of Southern Mississippi where his daughter played the sport.
Good.
Jan
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I don't understand how fucking greedy these people are. He's rich enough to just fund it and get himself praise for this but he'd rather lobby for money earmarked for needy families to go into this
jamieanderson1968
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