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Indymisanthrope said:
Even if we all reach consensus that sportskeeda is a real website, the only stories on the site about this subject are by a person in Bangalore with no otherwise significant web presence. I don't think anybody's saying this is enough to automatically dismiss the story, but it's also not really actionable if the only reporting it contains is a synopsis of what some people have said on an internet forum or in a TikTok. That's not journalism; at best it's aggregation
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I think that all non paid news sources are aggregation. And even some of the paid ones. That's just the current nature of the internet beast.
 
JonnyH said:
No. That's not at all what I'm suggesting. And I'm not gonna speak for everyone here, but I'd say I don't believe that's the argument anyone is making.

"The point is to say that if you find yourself parroting right wing talking points, or standing on their side, that it's a good time to have a think." That's it.

Your apparent first reaction to reading the story was to take a shot at the source(in a public fotum no less).

That's literally all I'm saying.
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I think both sides of the winged coin jump to conclusions about believing a source if it fits their narrative.

If this article said that a prominent transgender swimmer wants to go back to being a man, should we believe it? This is what has been actually going around about Lia Thomas, which of course is being picked up by republicans even though it doesn’t extend beyond one publication.

So whether we choose to believe the article may not matter as much as what the contents are and how we can weaponize them.
 
JonnyH said:
No. That's not at all what I'm suggesting. And I'm not gonna speak for everyone here, but I'd say I don't believe that's the argument anyone is making.

"The point is to say that if you find yourself parroting right wing talking points, or standing on their side, that it's a good time to have a think." That's it.

Your apparent first reaction to reading the story was to take a shot at the source(in a public forum no less).

That's literally all I'm saying.
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I mean I still fail to understand where you're drawing these ideas of my "parroting right wing talking points" from in literally anything I've written. I apologize if my initial post came off as flippant regarding the website, I have never heard of that website and I literally work in sports news. But anyhow, okay answer me this. When you read those posts on Sportskeeda, those posts were enough for you to be 100% sure that Robert Smith is guilty of this. You do not require any more info other than that one post which contains no actionable info of any kind? The moment you read that post, with the information contained within, you were 100% certain he did this, yes?
 
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Mather said:
I mean I still fail to understand where you're drawing these ideas of my "parroting right wing talking points" from in literally anything I've written. I apologize if my initial post came off as flippant regarding the website, I have never heard of that website and I literally work in sports news. But anyhow, okay answer me this. When you read those posts on Sportskeeda, those posts were enough for you to be 100% sure that Robert Smith is guilty of this. You do not require any more info other than that one post which contains no actionable info of any kind? The moment you read that post, with the information contained within, you were 100% certain he did this, yes?
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No. I'm not certain. I really hope it didn't happen for everyone involved in the story.

I'd read about it previously, but, like you, I'm not a superfan or anything so I definitely didn't dig any deeper. But I did see at least part of its spread online. Then, fast forward a few days, when the article was published and posted in here I read it.
 
JonnyH said:
No. I'm not certain. I really hope it didn't happen for everyone involved in the story.

I'd read about it previously, but, like you, I'm not a superfan or anything so I definitely didn't dig any deeper. But I did see at least part of its spread online. Then, fast forward a few days, when the article was published and posted in here I read it.
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Okay well I'm in the exact same boat. I hope we find out one way or another. I hate not knowing either way.
 
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I’ve been processing the Lizzo story and the thing that sticks out to me at this point is, is it really a shock? Yes, her overall persona and message was positive…. But some of her lyrics show a bit of a vindictive streak and her actual public persona has shown some cattiness here and there.

Edit: Also, the harassment stuff is completely not a shock, her whole thing is hyper sexual.
 
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Lee Newman said:
I’ve been processing the Lizzo story and the thing that sticks out to me at this point is, is it really a shock? Yes, her overall persona and message was positive…. But some of her lyrics show a bit of a vindictive streak and her actual public persona has shown some cattiness here and there.

Edit: Also, the harassment stuff is completely not a shock, her whole thing is hyper sexual.
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Not surprising to me. Lizzo was/is body positive and sex positive but also made the mistake in thinking everyone she surrounded herself with was of the same mind. Add in the fact that she runs a business and you’ve now got yourself a toxic Ellen situation.
 
Melt Face Molly Drop said:
Not surprising to me. Lizzo was/is body positive and sex positive but also made the mistake in thinking everyone she surrounded herself with was of the same mind. Add in the fact that she runs a business and you’ve now got yourself a toxic Ellen situation.
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I’d be lying if there wasn’t a bit of “you went to a strip club with Lizzo and then complained about what happened there?” In my initial reaction to the story. Not to discount/blame the victims… but common sense would tell me the way that’s going to go. What I don’t know is how toxic was the environment that they felt like they had to go?
 
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