Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

Phaneronic said:
I know it's not even like I leave the house much anyway, but with the surprising readiness of everyone working from home and as many restraunts as possible moving towards delivery-only it's starting to feel like even when we get this COVID-19 nonsense under control no-one is going to leave the house to Do Things ever again. Maybe I'd be more at ease if we were in a country that had the resources to test people at the ready so either we don't have to lockdown as hard because we can actually keep track of the thing OR I at least would have some perspective on why we're locking down as hard as we are. By this point I'm wanting to go out and cough on everyone I see even without having COVID-19.
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interesting take.
 
DownIsTheNewUp said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Virgin Atlantic have 8,500 employees and Branson has asked them to take 8 weeks unpaid leave.<br><br>It would cost £4.2 million to pay all of these employees £500 a week to cover this leave. In total that’s a cost of £34 million for 8 weeks.<br><br>Richard Branson is worth £4 billion.</p>&mdash; Liam Young (@liamyoung) <a href="">March 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Just had someone correct me when sharing that tweet that this simply is a false assumption. Billionaire likely have their fortunes tied up in stocks, bonds and property. It is very unlikely he has £34 million sitting around that he can use to pay these employees.
 
Phaneronic said:
I know it's not even like I leave the house much anyway, but with the surprising readiness of everyone working from home and as many restraunts as possible moving towards delivery-only it's starting to feel like even when we get this COVID-19 nonsense under control no-one is going to leave the house to Do Things ever again.
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I promise you (a diamond edged, project it onto the Moon sized promise) that if I come out of this alive, functional and with a single pound to my name, I'm going to get utterly fucking ruined with anyone who wants to come with me.
 
Phaneronic said:
Not sure if sarcastic. I'd understand if it was, I can get be pretty bitter sometimes.
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it was kind both sarcastic and genuine. calling it nonsense is interesting. whether we have tests or not isn't really going to affect a lockdown, it's having a vaccine/treatment that will affect the lockdown. testing only lets us know exactly how widespread it is, it doesn't really control the numbers. if you, or anyone, doesn't have the perspective at this point as to why locking shit down is essential I'm not sure what to say. wanting to cough on someone at this time, again, that's an interesting take. but do you.
 
Day 1 of kids home: i'm on parental leave since friday till october annd only habe to work a day a week. I imagined my paarental lwave would be chillin with the baby and listening to records, but at least we have no pressure job-wise.kindergarden will be closed for the next 5 weeks so we try to get some kindergarden routines. So we do morning circles ( today was singing, tomorrow will be sports, we is crafts). Oh yeah, and due to daddys negotiation skills between the 3yo and the 6yo we are now officially the unicorn-penguin group and after stamping that name and all our names on on a posterthey drew pretty cool unicorned penguins on that as well. Having to deal with 3 kids all day keeps the bad news of the world out for a while.
 
Phaneronic said:
I know it's not even like I leave the house much anyway, but with the surprising readiness of everyone working from home and as many restraunts as possible moving towards delivery-only it's starting to feel like even when we get this COVID-19 nonsense under control no-one is going to leave the house to Do Things ever again. Maybe I'd be more at ease if we were in a country that had the resources to test people at the ready so either we don't have to lockdown as hard because we can actually keep track of the thing OR I at least would have some perspective on why we're locking down as hard as we are. By this point I'm wanting to go out and cough on everyone I see even without having COVID-19.
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Yeah cabin fever can be a right shitter. Even if you don’t go out all that often it can play with your head that you can, it was a choice not to and now you’re stuck in with no choice. I spent the weekend bothering friends and family on the phone so as not to feel completely cut off!
 
Tillman said:
it was kind both sarcastic and genuine. calling it nonsense is interesting. whether we have tests or not isn't really going to affect a lockdown, it's having a vaccine/treatment that will affect the lockdown. testing only lets us know exactly how widespread it is, it doesn't really control the numbers. if you, or anyone, doesn't have the perspective at this point as to why locking shit down is essential I'm not sure what to say. wanting to cough on someone at this time, again, that's an interesting take. but do you.
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Well, I'll call any event of any consequence “nonsense;” probably comes from having spent as much time with British media as American. And I say it might allow us to ease up the lockdown because with Italy only testing people who have symptoms, it seems clear that untested, asymptomatic carriers are spreading the disease and prolonging it. Meanwhile, with South Korea testing everybody, we've not heard of them having to lock down like this, maybe I've just not heard about it because the media's focused on US, China, and Italy. If you're waiting for a vaccine to clam lockdown, then be prepared to wait until next April. In that event I expect depression to kill more people than COVID-19. And I totally get why we're doing it. I'm as angry at those people who are crowding music venues as you are. Wanting to cough on people is mostly just an absurd expression of impotent frustration at not being able to trust people to, well, self-isolate if they need to.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Just had someone correct me when sharing that tweet that this simply is a false assumption. Billionaire likely have their fortunes tied up in stocks, bonds and property. It is very unlikely he has £34 million sitting around that he can use to pay these employees.
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So sell some stocks (and I doubt he has all of that 4 billion tied up). People arguing semantics over this are being ridiculous. The owner of the company I work for is worth far less (but still quite a bit) and just guaranteed us full-time pay for the next couple months because a) he can afford the hit and b) he values us as employees.
 
DownIsTheNewUp said:
So sell some stocks (and I doubt he has all of that 4 billion tied up). People arguing semantics over this are being ridiculous. The owner of the company I work for is worth far less (but still quite a bit) and just guaranteed us full-time pay for the next couple months because a) he can afford the hit and b) he values us as employees.
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Yeah, the nature of my job means I cannot work from home, but I've been assured that if I have to sit at home twiddling my thumbs for 2+ weeks I will be paid full wages. Branson and Bezos can afford it, they're being assholes.
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah cabin fever can be a right shitter. Even if you don’t go out all that often it can play with your head that you can, it was a choice not to and now you’re stuck in with no choice. I spent the weekend bothering friends and family on the phone so as not to feel completely cut off!
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Exactly. When I do get out, those moments are important for not just entering a lonely spiral, and I feel like I was just about to get in the habit of getting out more, and now all of that feels taken away from me for As Long As It Takes, with no-one giving a serious upper bound on that figure.

I guess I appreciate COVID-19 finally disabusing the notion that after the generations previous having handled Spanish Flu, WWII, The Cold War, The Aids Epidemic, 9/11, etc, that life would just be fine, nothing major to worry about, but now I'm annoyed I was allowed to linger in that idea.
 
Max Sterling said:
Yeah, the nature of my job means I cannot work from home, but I've been assured that if I have to sit at home twiddling my thumbs for 2+ weeks I will be paid full wages. Branson and Bezos can afford it, they're being assholes.
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Exactly. (And for the record, I too- as somebody who works as part of a sales team- am pretty much worthless working from home).

Working people who defend the greed of billionaires are almost as aggravating as the greed itself.
 
Phaneronic said:
Exactly. When I do get out, those moments are important for not just entering a lonely spiral, and I feel like I was just about to get in the habit of getting out more, and now all of that feels taken away from me for As Long As It Takes, with no-one giving a serious upper bound on that figure.

I guess I appreciate COVID-19 finally disabusing the notion that after the generations previous having handled Spanish Flu, WWII, The Cold War, The Aids Epidemic, 9/11, etc, that life would just be fine, nothing major to worry about, but now I'm annoyed I was allowed to linger in that idea.
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One of the things I’ve heard from healthcare professionals here is a notion that you also can’t just lock yourself inside unless you're symptomatic or in a high risk category and that minding your mental health is even more important than normal in times like these. They suggest meeting 1 or 2 people in a park, on the seafront etc and going for a stroll/chat whilst minimizing physical contact and staying “2 golf umbrellas“ distance apart. The fresh air and social contact is more important than the risk if you’re sensible with contact, numbers and distances.
 
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