Definitive Audiophile pressings

HiFi Guy said:
MD seems to raise prices when MoFis stock is depleted. A local here does the same on RSD- regular prices on RSD. The day after and beyond, prices mirror average price on Discogs. I don’t like it either way, but it’s a classic case of supply and demand.
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That’s contrary to the terms and conditions of retailers participating in RSD. I’d be lodging a letter of complaint to the local RSD organiser if I saw a shop mark up a sealed original RSD press after the fact to try and make a quick buck.

With MoFi and MD the more I hear about them on here them the more I think that they’re a terrible company that produces some wonderful products and the less I want to have to do with them.
 
Joe Mac said:
That’s contrary to the terms and conditions of retailers participating in RSD. I’d be lodging a letter of complaint to the local RSD organiser if I saw a shop mark up a sealed original RSD press after the fact to try and make a quick buck.

With MoFi and MD the more I hear about them on here them the more I think that they’re a terrible company that produces some wonderful products and the less I want to have to do with them.
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I’ve purchased both gear and vinyl from them. No issues. Perfect experiences each and every time. As far as “flipper prices” on vinyl, I don’t like it and I won’t pay it. If someone wants something bad enough though....it’s an individual choice. No one has a gun to anyone’s head.
 
HiFi Guy said:
I’ve purchased both gear and vinyl from them. No issues. Perfect experiences each and every time. As far as “flipper prices” on vinyl, I don’t like it and I won’t pay it. If someone wants something bad enough though....it’s an individual choice.
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It is but it sends out a terrible signal. It’s one thing on the secondary market but new from the manufacturers website I think that they need calling out rather than blaming the consumer. I find it hard to support companies that act like that more than very occasionally.

There also seems to be a noticeable drop off in their QC and their attitude towards complaints about it judging by some of our fellow forumers experiences of late.
 
Joe Mac said:
That’s contrary to the terms and conditions of retailers participating in RSD. I’d be lodging a letter of complaint to the local RSD organiser if I saw a shop mark up a sealed original RSD press after the fact to try and make a quick buck.

With MoFi and MD the more I hear about them on here them the more I think that they’re a terrible company that produces some wonderful products and the less I want to have to do with them.
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I’ve seen a few examples of this. The most obvious I saw was the Sun Ra - Egypt box set. The RRP was around £70 (that’s what I paid). I saw retailers list it at £100+ with some being closer to £200. This wasn’t on or two either, I saw at least 5.
 
Selaws said:
I’ve seen a few examples of this. The most obvious I saw was the Sun Ra - Egypt box set. The RRP was around £70 (that’s what I paid). I saw retailers list it at £100+ with some being closer to £200. This wasn’t on or two either, I saw at least 5.
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Id be forwarding links/photos to RSD U.K. with a complaint about that kind of thing. I think there is an allowance for a degree of variance in price because they are individual businesses but gouging is meant to be prohibited and can potentially have them taken off the list.
 
Andy said:
that's insane. I don't know much about the DCC titles, but would you expect $180 for the Eagles greatest hits?
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I will say though, from my limited experience, if you see a DCC title on sale for fairly cheap, pick it up. They are the Kevin Gray/Steve Hoffman series that's all AAA. Harder and harder to find good deals on them. Some of the ones in that lot sell for $200+. But you'd think that trying to sell 58 of them would get you some kind of discount for bulk haha.
 
Joe Mac said:
It is but it sends out a terrible signal. It’s one thing on the secondary market but new from the manufacturers website I think that they need calling out rather than blaming the consumer. I find it hard to support companies that act like that more than very occasionally.

There also seems to be a noticeable drop off in their QC and their attitude towards complaints about it judging by some of our fellow forumers experiences of late.
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But technically it’s not the manufacturer’s website- that would be MoFi. MD is a different entity.

I see and understand your viewpoint and agree for the most part.
 
Joe Mac said:
Id be forwarding links/photos to RSD U.K. with a complaint about that kind of thing. I think there is an allowance for a degree of variance in price because they are individual businesses but gouging is meant to be prohibited and can potentially have them taken off the list.
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LOTS of US stores did this, especially this year with the online sales being allowed. Those John Prine box sets were being sold by quite a few record stores in the US on discogs for $200+ the day after RSD and I think MSRP was $100. and I'm pretty sure that one store near me, Norman Sound and Vision, was actually holding back stock on RSD in the past on RSD and then flipping it a week or two later on discogs for 2-3x the price. It does make me not want to shop at those stores anymore though at the very least.
 
HiFi Guy said:
But technically it’s not the manufacturer’s website- that would be MoFi. MD is a different entity.

I see and understand your viewpoint and agree for the most part.
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I mean we all know that MD own MoFi so that’s really splitting hairs. I just think it’s a lazy business practice that prioritises the quick buck over building consumer relationships and a positive brand association.
 
MikeH said:
I will say though, from my limited experience, if you see a DCC title on sale for fairly cheap, pick it up. They are the Kevin Gray/Steve Hoffman series that's all AAA. Harder and harder to find good deals on them. Some of the ones in that lot sell for $200+. But you'd think that trying to sell 58 of them would get you some kind of discount for bulk haha.
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It averages out to $172 per album (plus very reasonable shipping). Not bad actually. You’ll overpay for some albums (Jethro Tull-Aqualung) and you’ll underpay for others (Eagles- Hotel California.) Also, the test pressing of Wheels of Fire- I’d kill for that. Yes, $10k is a chunk of change, but it’s actually pretty fair overall.
 
HiFi Guy said:
It averages out to $172 per album (plus very reasonable shipping). Not bad actually. You’ll overpay for some albums (Jethro Tull-Aqualung) and you’ll underpay for others (Eagles- Hotel California.) Also, the test pressing of Wheels of Fire- I’d kill for that. Yes, $10k is a chunk of change, but it’s actually pretty fair overall.
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True! But all the numbered ones are numbered 13 😱

Would you risk that karma? 😂
 
HiFi Guy said:
It averages out to $172 per album (plus very reasonable shipping). Not bad actually. You’ll overpay for some albums (Jethro Tull-Aqualung) and you’ll underpay for others (Eagles- Hotel California.) Also, the test pressing of Wheels of Fire- I’d kill for that. Yes, $10k is a chunk of change, but it’s actually pretty fair overall.
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I wonder if he'll sell them piecemeal eventually or at least in smaller batches. Can't really see anybody dropping $10,000 on all of those but we'll see!
 
MikeH said:
I wonder if he'll sell them piecemeal eventually or at least in smaller batches. Can't really see anybody dropping $10,000 on all of those but we'll see!
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I thought about making an offer on the lot if/when he is ready, but once I averaged out my offer per album, it’s not reasonable or fair to the seller.
 
Joe Mac said:
With MoFi and MD the more I hear about them on here them the more I think that they’re a terrible company that produces some wonderful products and the less I want to have to do with them.
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MD itself is awesome especially for gear. I've had no issues and gotten some great deals especially with open box deals that arrived essentially brand new.

As for MoFi, I still buy some of their products but agree that they are pretty awful on the CS front. I'm still a bit miffed that they won't really do anything about damage unless you bought directly from them. On the one hand, I get it--it would probably be a nightmare to accept returns from all retailers. But on the other hand, I'd try to take care of customers if there's an issue like warped discs or missing items in a $125+ album...

There are a lot of companies who sell their product for considerably less that have way better customer service even if you don't buy directly from them.
 
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