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Hollywood said:
I'm sure the Mofi UDs are great but I hate the fact that they only come in one finish...black 🙄
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HiFi Guy said:
If MoFi came out with an upscale model above the UltraDeck, I’d be interested.

VPI? I like my 16.5- at what I paid for it. That said, a wood shop guy with ingenuity could make one. Today? It’s $900. No recommendation at that price. That actually clouds my opinion of their turntables. I’ve always thought their entry model is a great move from a UTurn though, and that UTurn should introduce something a bit nicer.
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They aren’t cheap, that’s for sure. But I’ve seen older and newer models, and the ones I’ve seen all have an ease about the presentation that I just can’t forget. Granted, tables I’ve heard have also had nicer carts, but I’ve been pretty impressed.

Pair that with the way they interact with customers, US made, family business successfully being transferred to a new generation. They have a lot of non-tangibles that add to their appeal to me. And although the looks are polarizing, I think they look incredibly cool. In my eyes, they just have that X factor. That special something. I initially expected to feel they were over rated based on hype and designs, but after hearing a few, I’m impressed.
 
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Going back to our talk a while back about running cables through walls etc... Here's the bulkhead I had my contractor's do for the theatre room Atmos run. They scribed the rock face with a wood panel and created a false wall to run the conduit up. This is looking behind my equipment console in the corner of the room. But obviously doing this with a standard wall instead of rock would work just as well and be way freaking easier... (That other cable is power. Unfortunately there was no way around that one since the wall is 1000’s of pounds of solid rock. Embedding AC in that ain't gunna happen.

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Mather said:
Going back to our talk a while back about running cables through walls etc... Here's the bulkhead I had my contractor's do for the theatre room Atmos run. They scribed the rock face with a wood panel and created a false wall to run the conduit up. This is looking behind my equipment console in the corner of the room. But obviously doing this with a standard wall instead of rock would work just as well and be way freaking easier... (That other cable is power. Unfortunately there was no way around that one since the wall is 1000’s of pounds of solid rock. Embedding AC in that ain't gunna happen.

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That looks rather ... dungeony.
 
HiFi Guy said:
Really? The table is that movie was a nasty ass ugly thing. The MoFi is understated elegance.

Edit: Said nasty ass thing was a Transciptor. Picture proof of said nasty assiness:

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Had one of the Transcriptor Hydraulic References back in college days. It was more upscale than the one shown here with strobe light for speed, dust bug for the record and a built in stylus brush. Fun to watch, even more so without a record and the sun shining on it. Psychedelic, man. Have no idea how I afforded it but there may have been some elicit trading going on. I can’t recall. 🙄 The ‘table itself sucked, especially with the thin Dynaflex records of the day. Seeing one years later at the Museum of Modern Art gave me some good flashbacks, er, I mean memories.
 
LiamGallagher’sBucketHat said:
I really enjoy his honesty and I know the hate will be filling up his inbox.

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Not questioning what I read as your positive response to his post, but I find the semantics interesting. Is he 'honest' because he is willing to admit to regrets based on his personal experience? Because you agree with what he's stating about the elements of hi-fi he's discussing? I guess I'm wondering what might make this any more honest than other such reviews, not to start an argument, but to raise the more general question about how we ever could assess 'honesty' in this type of post. Even if he is speaking his own truth, which I believe he is, how does that relate to the "truth" of the effectiveness of the high-end cables, isolation products, etc., he's discussing? I also think it would be interesting to see/hear what he might have had to say about each of these things at the time he was first compelled to buy them. Presumably he would have been speaking honestly at that time also, though his messages might have been very different.

Again, I'm looking at this in a very general way, not questioning him, and certainly not questioning you. Just thinking about this question of what makes a review[er] honest beyond their willingness to express their true opinions.
 
Russ I said:
Not questioning what I read as your positive response to his post, but I find the semantics interesting. Is he 'honest' because he is willing to admit to regrets based on his personal experience? Because you agree with what he's stating about the elements of hi-fi he's discussing? I guess I'm wondering what might make this any more honest than other such reviews, not to start an argument, but to raise the more general question about how we ever could assess 'honesty' in this type of post. Even if he is speaking his own truth, which I believe he is, how does that relate to the "truth" of the effectiveness of the high-end cables, isolation products, etc., he's discussing? I also think it would be interesting to see/hear what he might have had to say about each of these things at the time he was first compelled to buy them. Presumably he would have been speaking honestly at that time also, though his messages might have been very different.

Again, I'm looking at this in a very general way, not questioning him, and certainly not questioning you. Just thinking about this question of what makes a review[er] honest beyond their willingness to express their true opinions.
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I think he is simply being honest about some of the purchases he has made over the years in which he has regretted.
 
Russ I said:
Not questioning what I read as your positive response to his post, but I find the semantics interesting. Is he 'honest' because he is willing to admit to regrets based on his personal experience? Because you agree with what he's stating about the elements of hi-fi he's discussing? I guess I'm wondering what might make this any more honest than other such reviews, not to start an argument, but to raise the more general question about how we ever could assess 'honesty' in this type of post. Even if he is speaking his own truth, which I believe he is, how does that relate to the "truth" of the effectiveness of the high-end cables, isolation products, etc., he's discussing? I also think it would be interesting to see/hear what he might have had to say about each of these things at the time he was first compelled to buy them. Presumably he would have been speaking honestly at that time also, though his messages might have been very different.

Again, I'm looking at this in a very general way, not questioning him, and certainly not questioning you. Just thinking about this question of what makes a review[er] honest beyond their willingness to express their true opinions.
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Like most of these YouTube guys, I just think he's looking for "content" anywhere he can find it.
 
Hollywood said:
I think he is simply being honest about some of the purchases he has made over the years in which he has regretted.
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And does that make you more likely to believe what he's saying about those purchases, such as that high-end audio cable and isolation products are (basically) a scam? Again, just wondering about the scope of the 'honesty' characterization as it applies to what we can take away from such posts.
 
Russ I said:
And does that make you more likely to believe what he's saying about those purchases, such as that high-end audio cable and isolation products are (basically) a scam? Again, just wondering about the scope of the 'honesty' characterization as it applies to what we can take away from such posts.
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I think as well that it’s too blanket. In that I doesn’t really address the law of diminishing odds. In that cables do make a difference as you go up in price, not necessarily because the cable is any better but that to a point increasingly better shielding and terminations will make a difference but that it will hit a point where the increase in price no longer justifies it. With isolation I’d ask if he’s ever lived in a house with a suspended floor? If not I get his point but to miss that is a huge blind spot.
 
Angsty said:
I was just able to score a Bryston BP-1.5 for a lower cost than expected. I’ve been curious about how a Bryston separate would perform in my main rig as I love the phono in my Bryston integrated.

Arrives tomorrow so by the end of February I should be able to report if I’m still keeping my membership in the Sutherland Club, or not! Realistically, it’s more likely in my twisted world view that I’d decide that I needed both for some invented reason.
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It did not take me until Feb 28; the Bryston stays in the main system. I was skeptical that there would be much difference, but I do hear a difference. It’s not night and day, but the Bryston has more HF energy and detail than I get with the Sutherland Insight. The Sutherland is more laid back and relaxed; the Bryston is more forward and revealing. The Bryston is revealing to the point that I was hearing some artifacts that had me questioning if my cartridge needed re-alignment. It didn’t — I was just more easily hearing the flaws in some records than before.

But, all is not peaches and cream yet. The “vintage” Bryston has a maddening hum when not playing. I don’t hear it when playing, but I know it’s there. It’s not a deal breaker because the unit was noted for its quietude when reviewed as new, so I just may have some aging components that need a refresh. The Sutherland, on the other hand, has zero hum and minimal noise at max volume.

Anyone have a good US East Coast repair shop to recommend? I have a good guy in CA, but he’s backed up right now and shipping costs to and from CA cost almost as much as the repair itself. Bryston repair has been shutdown due to COVID and is just reopening, so they also have a massive backlog.
 
Angsty said:
It did not take me until Feb 28; the Bryston stays in the main system. I was skeptical that there would be much difference, but I do hear a difference. It’s not night and day, but the Bryston has more HF energy and detail than I get with the Sutherland Insight. The Sutherland is more laid back and relaxed; the Bryston is more forward and revealing. The Bryston is revealing to the point that I was hearing some artifacts that had me questioning if my cartridge needed re-alignment. It didn’t — I was just more easily hearing the flaws in some records than before.

But, all is not peaches and cream yet. The “vintage” Bryston has a maddening hum when not playing. I don’t hear it when playing, but I know it’s there. It’s not a deal breaker because the unit was noted for its quietude when reviewed as new, so I just may have some aging components that need a refresh. The Sutherland, on the other hand, has zero hum and minimal noise at max volume.

Anyone have a good US East Coast repair shop to recommend? I have a good guy in CA, but he’s backed up right now and shipping costs to and from CA cost almost as much as the repair itself. Bryston repair has been shutdown due to COVID and is just reopening, so they also have a massive backlog.
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This is the place. The owner was the former Service Manager at Conrad Johnson.

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