Hip Hop

250 usd is about the maximum id spend on shoes.
And theyd better last me atleast 1yr 6 months otherwise I regret the purchase.
But im guessing some of you are spending much more and not wearing them really? special occassions?
I dont get that whole "sneaker game" I see poppin off.

All that pops in my head when I think of the sneaker scene is turtle from entourage and when kanye brought out those weird looking shoes and now has set a trend I see across all brands
 
That's a dumb move then, because ebay takes a cut of even a fake sale. If that's true, you're just giving them money
If someone “buys it” and then doesn’t pay up, there’s no fee from eBay. I sold an expensive record in an auction awhile back for way more than I thought it would because of a bidding war. But then the winner didn’t want to pay up so it got cancelled and I got the final sale fee back. Then it went up again and sold for like 1/2 of what I would have gotten...

It’s more of a phenomenon on discogs it seems to drive up the highest paid and median values. I truly doubt somebody actually paid $1500 for Blond last montg
 
If someone “buys it” and then doesn’t pay up, there’s no fee from eBay. I sold an expensive record in an auction awhile back for way more than I thought it would because of a bidding war. But then the winner didn’t want to pay up so it got cancelled and I got the final sale fee back. Then it went up again and sold for like 1/2 of what I would have gotten...

It’s more of a phenomenon on discogs it seems to drive up the highest paid and median values. I truly doubt somebody actually paid $1500 for Blond last montg

Those ebay fees come out after tho right?

Ive done it unintentionally before.
Sold like 3 things. Got my money. Spent it.
Then after money is gone ebay sends me an annoying email claiming I owe them fees for the sales.
Then eventually I paid them back.


But if u didnt give a shit.. you could sell things and then not pay them? Your only at risk at losing that ebay account lol
Make a new one right? its free.
 
Those ebay fees come out after tho right?

Ive done it unintentionally before.
Sold like 3 things. Got my money. Spent it.
Then after money is gone ebay sends me an annoying email claiming I owe them fees for the sales.
Then eventually I paid them back.


But if u didnt give a shit.. you could sell things and then not pay them? Your only at risk at losing that ebay account lol
Make a new one right? its free.
Yea--you always pay fees to sell and it's based on the value of the final sale price. I forget too sometimes and then get the invoice a month later.

In these artificial sale cases, it's more that if I sell an album, as soon as the auction ends, ebay puts a seller fee charge on my account based on what I sold it for. If the buyer refuses to pay, then I can cancel the order and eBay will refund that seller fee. So if I wanted to make it look like an album is selling for more than it actually is, I create a fake ebay account to "buy" the album at a high price. People see it sell for a lot and start to think of that as the going rate for the album. This also happens on reddit a bit--people "sell Blond" for $550 but don't actually sell it to anybody. Then someone else lists it for $500 and people say to themselves "oh well the last copy on here sold for $550 so $500 is a bargain!". Meanwhile, it just sold for $350 the month before. The discogs median has been creeping up because somebody just sold it for $1,500. And discogs does not get rid of cancelled sales apparently.
 
Yea--you always pay fees to sell and it's based on the value of the final sale price. I forget too sometimes and then get the invoice a month later.

In these artificial sale cases, it's more that if I sell an album, as soon as the auction ends, ebay puts a seller fee charge on my account based on what I sold it for. If the buyer refuses to pay, then I can cancel the order and eBay will refund that seller fee. So if I wanted to make it look like an album is selling for more than it actually is, I create a fake ebay account to "buy" the album at a high price. People see it sell for a lot and start to think of that as the going rate for the album. This also happens on reddit a bit--people "sell Blond" for $550 but don't actually sell it to anybody. Then someone else lists it for $500 and people say to themselves "oh well the last copy on here sold for $550 so $500 is a bargain!". Meanwhile, it just sold for $350 the month before. The discogs median has been creeping up because somebody just sold it for $1,500. And discogs does not get rid of cancelled sales apparently.
But if you search by completed listings, doesn't it exclude those?
 
Discogs price reporting is jacked. Many, many times I have bought an album for, say, $40 or $50 and for months afterwards it still says the highest price ever sold was $20 or whatever the case may be. I've also observed this happen when I've had an eye on a record, failed to pull the trigger in time and someone else buys, and then the discogs sell price info never updates - although this second scenario could be explained by sellers taking down the listing.

To join in on the "this is the new sneaker game" convo, I wish more releases would be on a set preorder period. Its announced in advance and then fans have 48 hours or w/e to preorder, and the company presses at least that many. Late-to-the-party folks are still gonna get hit with resale prices, but fans who are following an artist will always get the chance. "Labels" like Daupe are utter toxic garbage. They thrive off of this corny "exclusive" game and don't let artists repress material that they've pressed. Getting the exclusive variant can be cool sometimes but generally I just want the cheaper black vinyl variant and Daupe-type releases bottleneck even those. Sure, limit it to 10 obis and 15 copies that are pressed with WSG's body hair in the actual wax (for the culture), but the only limit on standard edition repressed should be audience demand.

Side note - Benny the Butcher Statue of Limitations with the dope alternate cover still available on TuffKong... Check out the Cuns "Family Jewels" project whole you're there as well, Cuns is a wicked up coming producer from Roma. His benny and Conway 7"s a few years ago are facemelters.

First forum post. Hope I didn't go overboard 😂 cheers.
 
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But if you search by completed listings, doesn't it exclude those?
If you're talking about looking at sales history, I don't believe it does. I have seen a lot of people in the discogs forums complain about how discogs keeps track of the sales and includes cancelled sales in their numbers. Some people have emailed discogs to tell them to remove the sale of an album that was cancelled and discogs says they cannot do so.
 
If you're talking about looking at sales history, I don't believe it does. I have seen a lot of people in the discogs forums complain about how discogs keeps track of the sales and includes cancelled sales in their numbers. Some people have emailed discogs to tell them to remove the sale of an album that was cancelled and discogs says they cannot do so.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about eBay.
 
Discogs price reporting is jacked. Many, many times I have bought an album for, say, $40 or $50 and for months afterwards it still says the highest price ever sold was $20 or whatever the case may be. I've also observed this happen when I've had an eye on a record, failed to pull the trigger in time and someone else buys, and then the discogs sell price info never updates - although this second scenario could be explained by sellers taking down the listing.

To join in on the "this is the new sneaker game" convo, I wish more releases would be on a set preorder period. Its announced in advance and then fans have 48 hours or w/e to preorder, and the company presses at least that many. Late-to-the-party folks are still gonna get hit with resale prices, but fans who are following an artist will always get the chance. "Labels" like Daupe are utter toxic garbage. They thrive off of this corny "exclusive" game and don't let artists repress material that they've pressed. Getting the exclusive variant can be cool sometimes but generally I just want the cheaper black vinyl variant and Daupe-type releases bottleneck even those. Sure, limit it to 10 obis and 15 copies that are pressed with WSG's body hair in the actual wax (for the culture), but the only limit on standard edition repressed should be audience demand.

Side note - Benny the Butcher Statue of Limitations with the dope alternate cover still available on TuffKong... Check out the Cuns "Family Jewels" project whole you're there as well, Cuns is a wicked up coming producer from Roma. His benny and Conway 7"s a few years ago are facemelters.

First forum post. Hope I didn't go overboard 😂 cheers.
Welcome! I agree with the limited window thing being better for consumers, but even that can get crazy if you miss that window--look at Blonde and some of the other releases that have a lot pressed but still sell for crazy prices. The trade off with the made to order strategy though is that you end up waiting 7+ months to get your record. I think the vinyl bubble will burst one of these days though...

I also hate the whole thing that Tyler + Weeknd and others do where they never announce what variants will be available ahead of time. So you buy one, then another one comes out a few days later and they won't let you cancel. I've given up on trying to get a Daupe release lately and stuff like that has made me really not like trying to get hip hop on wax much anymore...
 
If the vinyl popularity stops we might not even have alot of these vinyl options.
And thats not something Id want under any circumstance tbh
I think it will still be popular, but I just think people might get fed up with paying $60+ for a single record with like 6 tracks on it. I don't know that we'll see vinyl just stop selling but super limited only releases might get curbed in favor of wider releases. I hope the Freddie/Alc Alfredo method becomes more of the norm--a cheap black vinyl with no limit and then limited versions.
 
I think it will still be popular, but I just think people might get fed up with paying $60+ for a single record with like 6 tracks on it. I don't know that we'll see vinyl just stop selling but super limited only releases might get curbed in favor of wider releases. I hope the Freddie/Alc Alfredo method becomes more of the norm--a cheap black vinyl with no limit and then limited versions.

Better be 6 amazing tracks xD

Anyone going to grab the 40th anniversary of sugarhill gang dropping soon?
 
If someone “buys it” and then doesn’t pay up, there’s no fee from eBay. I sold an expensive record in an auction awhile back for way more than I thought it would because of a bidding war. But then the winner didn’t want to pay up so it got cancelled and I got the final sale fee back. Then it went up again and sold for like 1/2 of what I would have gotten...

It’s more of a phenomenon on discogs it seems to drive up the highest paid and median values. I truly doubt somebody actually paid $1500 for Blond last montg

I can see that it's possible, especially for massive seller accounts, but I still wonder if it's worth it.

That sounds like a smooth enough situation for you, and I don't know how long ago this happened, but you generally have to prove that you weren't paid, because it's easy to make that claim and take the money on the side. Ebay wants their cut and isn't fucking around like that.

It's true that the buyer can try and request a cancellation based on a drop down selection of reasons, but that's tricky, too. I've had someone just not pay and I had to go through a claim over it. Ebay will still take a cut in that situation, if you don't go through the whole process. I've had someone do the thing where they want to backout because they bought it elsewhere, after I accepted their offer, and I've told them no. I lose all of my other watchers and it's a headache. I had to call ebay to deal with my fee from them over it. Then I relisted it and actually got more. It just sucked because it was also listed and sold during a promotional window where Ebay's cut would have been smaller.

Of course, in this situation, you wouldn't have to worry about the other person simply not paying, because they would ask to cancel and you would accept, being that it's yourself. I still don't see it as something one seller could do repeatedly without a red flag on their account. "Why does everyone keep canceling?" I guess if they made new accounts to sell from, that could work, but it becomes a pain in the ass quick.

I once listed a Lil Ugly Mane shirt and tossed in a free Mista Thug Isolation tape. In the listing I mentioned what a great deal it was since, if you ordered the tape from Ormolycka, you wouldn't even know when or if it would show up at all. Keep in mind that the item connected to him wasn't even the thing I was selling. But, Orm's feelings were hurt, so he offered me $2,000 on the listing. Since it was well over the listing price, it automatically accepted it. That meant ebay was coming for a $200 fee on a bunk sale that I wasn't getting paid for. I had to get them on the phone to deal with it and show them how absurd it looked, to stop from getting charged in the first place. Normally, you have to give them time to pay and can be charged your feecwithin that window. Often, cancellations can even drag out or keep your fee in limbo.

Overall, it's just a pain in the ass system to mess with. I'm sure those doing have a better system all worked out.

That sucks about your auction. If that ever happens, you can always just hit up the second highest bidder and see if they want it. Were they not interested? It usually offers that option.

14 years ago, I was a night auditor at a hotel, so I'd just fuck around on the internet all night and poke around on ebay. I lost an ebay auction, but the seller contacted me later to tell me that the winner was from Canada and he doesn't ship there, so it's mine if I wanted it. For about $60 total, I got a ton of original hip hop pressings.

Included in that bundle was Liquid Swords, Cuban Linx, Funcrusher Plus, Hard To Earn, Organix...

I think Heavy Mental was part of that, too, but I can't remember if my Lyricist Lounge Vol. 1 was from that auction, or if I got it separately. There may have been something else slipping my mind.

The sleeves weren't pristine or anything, but i'd imagine it's still next to impossible to pull something like that these days. It was definitely a different time.
 
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