It Could Get A Bit Messi In Here - The Football Thread.

The Garden Goblin said:
Watching Leicester City/Norwich and the announcers were talking about how this will make the 6th time that Norwich has been relegated and that “some” believe there should be a league between Premier & Championship. Is there such a gap in talent for that?
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There is but it’s largely because there is a monumental gap in money. If you don’t allow teams to yoyo for a bit and build deeper pockets you kinda turn the premier league into a closed shop which is no good at all.

What is actually needed is for more of the premier leagues wealth to be shared down amongst the lower leagues.
 
So Jesse Marsch? Does he have a good reputation over there. Because playing Raphina at right wing back is, to put it kindly, a pretty eccentric ploy.
 
Joe Mac said:
So Jesse Marsch? Does he have a good reputation over there. Because playing Raphina at right wing back is, to put it kindly, a pretty eccentric ploy.
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i know your high regards for the bundesliga, but under Marsch Leipzig was about to miss CL qualification, so he was sacked after half the season
 
Jan said:
i know your high regards for the bundesliga, but under Marsch Leipzig was about to miss CL qualification, so he was sacked after half the season
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Haha! I actually do like some of the football played over there and it’s a good breeding ground for young players and the whole fan share thing is great. I’m just sick of a group of self flagellating English journalists pointing towards a league dominated by a single team as some kind of footballing nirvana that should be the aim.

The Premier League has so many problems and some of the approaches would definitely be preferable, particularly around ownership, but you can’t just messily implement one footballing culture into another either.

There also a kinda weirdo footballing hipster that you’ll come across from time to time in England who “supports” Leverkusen or whomever (never Dortmund and definitely never Munich) and they are utterly insufferable and often not that knowledgable about football, they’re just poseurs.

I had seen that he didn’t last the first half of the season at Leipzig, interesting to see if he’ll be given a chance to bring Leeds right back up but he really doesn’t fill me with confidence.
 
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If Arse win today, I've accepted the fate of Europa League. It's a winnable competition. Conte got his Inter squad to the final in 19/20 even though he normally has an abhorrent european record. But still, I'm going to be shitting bricks up until match time. Arse have't wont away to Spurs since 2014, so I'm hopeful for a win but expecting the worst. How you feeling @Jonathan Y? A win for Spurs still requires Arsenal to drop points away to Newcastle or home to Everton. Newcastle will be tough, but Everton may have already secured safety with Leeds collapse of late so they won't try as hard away from home.
 
Joe Mac said:
So Jesse Marsch? Does he have a good reputation over there. Because playing Raphina at right wing back is, to put it kindly, a pretty eccentric ploy.
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I watched a lot of Marsch when he managed the new york red bulls. He was hired after the team surprisingly fired a club favorite/legend, and people were pissed (to put it mildly). But he quickly ingratiated himself to the fans with completely transparency and a great demeanor. The results didn't hurt either. During his time there, his approach was pretty one-dimensional - high press "red bull" football, and the team got in trouble when they fell behind or played a team that bunkered, and he failed to adjust the game plan.

BUT the eccentric ploys weren't part of his game. Part of what the players (supposedly) liked was the honesty and clear direction about what was expected of him.

I'll always have a soft spot for Jesse, although I could do without the newly adopted Ted Lasso vibes.
 
mgp said:
I watched a lot of Marsch when he managed the new york red bulls. He was hired after the team surprisingly fired a club favorite/legend, and people were pissed (to put it mildly). But he quickly ingratiated himself to the fans with completely transparency and a great demeanor. The results didn't hurt either. During his time there, his approach was pretty one-dimensional - high press "red bull" football, and the team got in trouble when they fell behind or played a team that bunkered, and he failed to adjust the game plan.

BUT the eccentric ploys weren't part of his game. Part of what the players (supposedly) liked was the honesty and clear direction about what was expected of him.

I'll always have a soft spot for Jesse, although I could do without the newly adopted Ted Lasso vibes.
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Yeah he has to deal with Lasso plus a deep rooted culture of distrust towards “American soccer” in European Football culture plus the fact he really does come across like an over enthusiastic middle management consultant in his interviews here, and no one likes management consultants…

It may well be a case of when needs must given Leeds’ injuries right now but if you’re going to put your most creative player out of position in a 3-5-2 stick him up front and put someone a little less decisive out of position at right wing back.
 
wokeupnew said:
If Arse win today, I've accepted the fate of Europa League. It's a winnable competition. Conte got his Inter squad to the final in 19/20 even though he normally has an abhorrent european record. But still, I'm going to be shitting bricks up until match time. Arse have't wont away to Spurs since 2014, so I'm hopeful for a win but expecting the worst. How you feeling @Jonathan Y? A win for Spurs still requires Arsenal to drop points away to Newcastle or home to Everton. Newcastle will be tough, but Everton may have already secured safety with Leeds collapse of late so they won't try as hard away from home.
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Man I am so fucking nervous for this match....I don't even want to think ahead if we do lose. I'm just going to sit here and be full of anxiety for the next 4 hours. GOOD LUCK!
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah he has to deal with Lasso plus a deep rooted culture of distrust towards “American soccer” in European Football culture plus the fact he really does come across like an over enthusiastic middle management consultant in his interviews here, and no one likes management consultants…

It may well be a case of when needs must given Leeds’ injuries right now but if you’re going to put your most creative player out of position in a 3-5-2 stick him up front and put someone a little less decisive out of position at right wing back.
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Ha! The middle management thing is spot on and priceless. The man needs a makeover.

We've got the reverse culture trust towards English Football over here. If a youth coach has a British accent they are employable forever, and they can charge double for summer camps.
 
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