Let's See What Makes Your Vinyl Spin!
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Joe Mac
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So what everyone is going Technics now
I can see why they would. They’re big bulletproof units that’s are simple to use and live with and still sound great. Doesn’t mean that everyone would or should. If I ever changed it’s been clear to me for a while that it’s be the right decision for me too but I’m not going to tell someone they’re wrong to get something else, there isn’t much shit out there at the price!
Hollywood
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LiamGallaghersBucketHat
Go on, geezer.
wmeugene
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The ease of use is something else entirely. I had a U-turn, which was nice for the price, and the Technics is just so much easier than the entry level. The DD and push button speed change is so easy.
dansomeone
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So, we're gonna get slaughtered?
Bsdmr2
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A chap on my floor at university was a dj and had the obligatory 1210's, so they're forever etched in my mind for that use only. They are good TT's though, and as said before built extremely well and very user friendly. Their aesthetic is too industrial for my tastes, but I definitely get the appeal and popularity.
Joe Mac
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The wooden isolation box that company in London makes for them really does soften the edges, the silver one against it looks almost retro in a good way, if only we could get rid of that pitch thing in a model above the 1500c…
Bsdmr2
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The 1000R is the epitome of retro looks in their range, I like the brass platter.
Joe Mac
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For £18k without a plinth I’d had want to!
The 10R (which is the turntable element of the 1000R) with a custom wooden plinth and the tonearm of my choosing would be my dream lotto win table!
Bsdmr2
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You don’t need to win the lotto to get there! Keep an eye out for ex-demo, and then work through tonearm upgrades over time!
Joe Mac
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At £8k for just the turntable I’m guess that an ex demo is also out of my comfort zone
I have cast a half serious eye on a Japanese sp10mkII and to get it stripped, serviced and resprayed by a specialist which is a bit more affordable. Also with it being using a DC current from an outboard power supply is also less hassle as an import because rather than having to get the power supply modded or using a transformer I could just get a one of the modern replacement power supplies from a UK specialist and they are in most cases a decent upgrade over the original.
I haven’t thought about this much, nope…
Bsdmr2
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Keep that eye focused Joe!At £8k for just the turntable I’m guess that an ex demo is also out of my comfort zone
I have cast a half serious eye on a Japanese sp10mkII and to get it stripped, serviced and resprayed by a specialist which is a bit more affordable…
I look forward to you starting a what’s makes your vinyl spin 2023 with an sp10 (MK2 or 3) as the first post.
Joe Mac
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Keep that eye focused Joe!
I look forward to you starting a what’s makes your vinyl spin 2023 with an sp10 (MK2 or 3) as the first post.
I dont think it’s that imminent but I’d love an sp10 one day! I know the fella in Lincolnshire (acoustand), who I’ve bought various upgrades from for my current table makes some gorgeous plinths and will strip and respray the turntable…
psemeraro
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It always fascinates me how people join camps, put stakes in the ground etc. regrading audio gear. The 1200mk2-5 has been around long enough that everyone knows what it is. It's never been the best or the worst technics TT but Technics made a set of choices that reslulted in a good sounding TT, that was robust and long-lived, and was able to sound good in places where other TT's would not function at all.
Laid on top of that history has been a bazillion opinions from audiphiles, some of them valid, some of them just silly. Bought my first 1200 brand new in 1986 while still in high school. Bought and owned dozens and dozens of them since that time for my work. In college, the radio station I worked at had Sp10 Mk2s, and it was impossible to not notice the difference in "presentation" between the Sp10s and the 1200. But still, the 1200s traveled well in a road case, kept the needle in the groove on wobbly tables, bouncy floors, and clubs with enough bass to shake the walls, and if you maintained them, just worked. I'm now whats classified as a music first audiophile. I would never, ever seek out a record that made the system sound good, I'm looking for gear that makes the records sound good. And sorry, but there's no way one "perfect" piece of gear makes all my different records sound good.
I'm a music fan, not a gear fan. Does that make me a heretic in these parts?
When the 1200mk2 was designed in the 70s, domestic audio was different than it is now. Most speakers were crap (there were good ones of course but most of the mainstream was pure crap) and even my "aspirational" seperates, from Nikko and SAE didnt resolve, didnt image and werent quiet like todays better and best gear. The only stand alone phono pre I knew about was the $20 one from Radio Shack that allowed another turntable to be used in a line input. How good, really were all those built-in phono pres? Yep the quality was all over the place. "Rack systems", typical receivers, etc, forget about it... and please let's be honest here, the select few highly regarded bits and pieces from the 70s and 80s that we loved today (gigantic Pioneer receivers, Sansui integrated amps, etc) were not the mainstream. The very high end - Macintosh, Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, Martin Logan, etc was even less common.
The 1200Mk2 used domestically likely existed in a system that looked something like a big Sansui integrated amp and JBL L100's. Or a gigantic Pioneer receiver (or Nikko seperates) and a pair of Maggies. It's headshell carried a good quality MM cart and played thru the built in phono preamp of the supporting gear.
The new 1200s exist in our modern world, with much better sounding supporting gear and completely different music. Of course they sound better than the classic 1200's and it's exciting the market now has a modern 1200 option that brings some of the great attributes of the classic along with modern thinking and performance.
Cheers,
Pat
Laid on top of that history has been a bazillion opinions from audiphiles, some of them valid, some of them just silly. Bought my first 1200 brand new in 1986 while still in high school. Bought and owned dozens and dozens of them since that time for my work. In college, the radio station I worked at had Sp10 Mk2s, and it was impossible to not notice the difference in "presentation" between the Sp10s and the 1200. But still, the 1200s traveled well in a road case, kept the needle in the groove on wobbly tables, bouncy floors, and clubs with enough bass to shake the walls, and if you maintained them, just worked. I'm now whats classified as a music first audiophile. I would never, ever seek out a record that made the system sound good, I'm looking for gear that makes the records sound good. And sorry, but there's no way one "perfect" piece of gear makes all my different records sound good.
I'm a music fan, not a gear fan. Does that make me a heretic in these parts?
When the 1200mk2 was designed in the 70s, domestic audio was different than it is now. Most speakers were crap (there were good ones of course but most of the mainstream was pure crap) and even my "aspirational" seperates, from Nikko and SAE didnt resolve, didnt image and werent quiet like todays better and best gear. The only stand alone phono pre I knew about was the $20 one from Radio Shack that allowed another turntable to be used in a line input. How good, really were all those built-in phono pres? Yep the quality was all over the place. "Rack systems", typical receivers, etc, forget about it... and please let's be honest here, the select few highly regarded bits and pieces from the 70s and 80s that we loved today (gigantic Pioneer receivers, Sansui integrated amps, etc) were not the mainstream. The very high end - Macintosh, Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, Martin Logan, etc was even less common.
The 1200Mk2 used domestically likely existed in a system that looked something like a big Sansui integrated amp and JBL L100's. Or a gigantic Pioneer receiver (or Nikko seperates) and a pair of Maggies. It's headshell carried a good quality MM cart and played thru the built in phono preamp of the supporting gear.
The new 1200s exist in our modern world, with much better sounding supporting gear and completely different music. Of course they sound better than the classic 1200's and it's exciting the market now has a modern 1200 option that brings some of the great attributes of the classic along with modern thinking and performance.
Cheers,
Pat
Joe Mac
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Mather
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It's all a rich tapestry.
Joe Mac
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@AnthonyI you’re using a marantz blu ray for CDs/SACDs right? How do you find it? My Sony died and I’m hunting for a UD7007 if I can get one for a nice price. Combined with a HDMI to I2S converter I can get the SACD layer out to my DAC I think….
Do you like the one you have? How does it sound. Considering either that or just a standard Sony Blu Ray that plays SACDs if not
Do you like the one you have? How does it sound. Considering either that or just a standard Sony Blu Ray that plays SACDs if not
AnthonyI
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I don't have any point of comparison, but you can hear the difference between a standard CD and SACD and they both sound wonderful. That said, if I had to do it all over again I would have probably tried to find something a little newer, this one is lacking a few inputs/outputs that would have been handy, not a deal breaker by any means, but it looks like the UD7007 has all that you might need. I paid $300ish for the UD5007, if you can find a good deal on the 7007 I think you'll be happy with it. A universal BR player is a very viable option for filling the SACD hole in a system.
I still stand by the choice, does it sound better than a dedicated SASD player?? I don't know to be honest, and don't care, this sounds fantastic and its hard to argue the cost savings over a SACD player.
