Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus
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Skalap
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This seems...bad. (And it would seem to suggest that perhaps some of the rumors about more deaths in China than have been reported might have something to them.)
Hidden Mortality In Spain
ve been working on collecting different bits of information pointing to dramatically higher COVID-19 mortality than is showing up in official statistics. (Josh Kovensky is beginning to report the…talkingpointsmemo.com
The numbers in France are wrong as well. Basically they only count deads and contaminated in hospitals. They do not add people who died at home or, and it's a big issue because the numbers seems to be high, at nursing homes.
Chucktshoes
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Does the German measles cause undue negative feelings towards Germans? What about West Nile virus? Norovirus? Rocky Mountain spotted fever? MERS (middle eastern respiratory syndrome)? Lyme disease? Ebola? Zika? Spanish Flu? Lassa fever?
All are named after the location in which they were first identified. That has been a common practice for a long, long time. Why is it now all of a sudden the practice is considered prejudicial? Is it because it is, or is it a reflection of the Chinese government’s undue influence in the WHO?
TenderLovingKiller®
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I mean if you wanna call it the Wuhan Virus go for it (it’s better than Chinese virus certainly) I think the point is that it is needlessly divisive. I would imagine had any of those previously labeled bugs had come into being and were being thrown around as a slight (which it what this is, everyone knows what Coronavirus or Covid-19 is at this point) people would not feel super great about that either.
Exactly
Also, in this case, it's simply called the coronavirus or COVID-19 rather than the region it was first identified. Wahan Virus is not the official name the world recognizes.
This virus also is creating fear at the global level unlike any of those other virus / deceases mentioned do. Those other names haven't resulted in people spraying people of asian decent on the subway with febreze simply because they are asian and 'dirty' out of fear of catching this virus.
Chucktshoes
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I use COVID-19 because it is the accepted and official name for it. On the other hand I don’t discount information or articles about it because somebody chooses a call if the Wuhan virus.
I am more concerned at the damage caused by unnecessary politicization and virtue signaling surrounding the name used to refer to it. Remember, it was only a month ago that politicians in New York, San Francisco and other places were encouraging people to come out to Chinatowns in major cities to attend lunar new year festivals. I can’t even guess how many new infections resulted from that cluster fuck of a virtue signal. So I don’t care what people call it, I just wanna know what information you have about it.
dhodo
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Scientists don't generally refer to most of those things by the names you used. Those are common names and it is not uncommon that they are incorrect about origin. They are frequently established long before the investigation on origin is completed. You might want to look up where Spanish Flu started again.
It is prejudicial when it is used in that manner, which seems to be very common at the moment with people blaming the "Chinese Virus" on some dude "eating a raw bat."
Edit: Nevermind the fact that it was established worldwide for some time colloquially as Coronavirus, and some people continue to go out of their way to refuse to call it that and instead try to rename it based on its point of origin. In my opinion, there isn't a good reason for a renaming as everyone I've seen who is passionate about calling it Chinese or Wuhan is blaming Chinese people in a derogatory manner.
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TenderLovingKiller®
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The whole “virtue signaling” thing bothers me, I get that some on the left like to weaponize this type of stuff (as does the right; unfortunately people of all ideologies use shit like this to score cheap political points) but if some folks are offended by it (and as you stated who fucking cares we have much bigger fish to fry) why not just choose the inoffensive option.
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Chucktshoes
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You know, I think I’ve stated my position as clearly as I can. I don’t care what people call it, I just care about the quality of the information they provide.I’ll judge the information on its merits as best as I can and discard the nonessential stuff.
Chucktshoes
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On to lighter fare, who else feels like they’re scrubbing in for surgery when they’re washing their hands these days? 
TenderLovingKiller®
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Word. I love ya Chuck and apologize if it feels like we’re ganging up. Regarding the source The Federalist is almost completely troll enduring garbage at this point (I think they were recently suspended from Twitter and it might have been the piece referenced here that accomplished that feat). I used to follow them in my political feed (I follow lots of conservative and libertarian voices too. I like too somewhat well- rounded in that regard) but the bootlicking became too much for me to bear. They are also super secretive regarding who pays their bills to keep the publication going which is kinda shady too.
I found my self timing my self like brushing my teeth. I make sure I get 20 seconds of scrubbing in.
juiceless
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Because that's not what it's called.
juiceless
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You should. It's bad journalism.
Ed Selley
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Ignoring the nomenclature for a moment, it is generally presumed that this global event has its origin point in culinary practises- both in terms of what is being eaten and what it is being prepared near- that have now largely been eliminated almost everywhere else. I'll be candid- I don't want any well meaning squeamishness over blame to get in the way of pressure to knock this on the head. Not least because I don't want to do this any more than once in my life and because that pressure is working.
Turbo
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And the Covidiot award of the day goes to...
www.cnn.com
More than 40 spring breakers who ignored public health advice test positive for coronavirus
Dozens of spring breakers from Texas boarded a plane for fun and came home with coronavirus.
www.cnn.com
Turbo
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A quick finger-prick blood test can determine whether you've ever had the coronavirus. It could soon become widely available.
A quick blood test could help you figure out whether you've developed antibodies for the new coronavirus — which means you had it.
www.businessinsider.com
Some Americans could wait 20 weeks to receive stimulus checks, IRS tells House Democrats
Americans likely won't begin to see direct payments from the coronavirus stimulus bill until at least April 13 and it could take 20 weeks for all the checks to be mailed, Trump administration officials told lawmakers, according to a House Democratic memo obtained by CNN.
www.cnn.com
Things aren't going back to the way they were in a hurry.
Jan
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That will probably be important to end lockdowns ans to see how wide-spread covid-19 is in the Population. German is riding to rampingg up a cross-population study Screening 100.000s for antibodies.
A quick finger-prick blood test can determine whether you've ever had the coronavirus. It could soon become widely available.
A quick blood test could help you figure out whether you've developed antibodies for the new coronavirus — which means you had it.