Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

I have to figure out what I'm going to do for restocking on groceries.

They are advising to not go out to the grocery stores, but rather use curbside pickup or delivery.

Neither Market Basket or Shaws has either of those. The local Target and Walmart have curbside pickup but no groceries as they are older smaller stores. Amazon Fresh is not yet available in my area. Stop & Shop has PeaPod, but there is nothing but complaints about it, impossible to get scheduled deliveries and their website has been down for maintenance for at least 24 hours now.

My local Market Basket has had one of their employees pass away from COVID-19 :cry: :cry::cry::cry:

Other employees have tested positive and are in quarantine.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
I have to figure out what I'm going to do for restocking on groceries.

They are advising to not go out to the grocery stores, but rather use curbside pickup or delivery.

Neither Market Basket or Shaws has either of those. The local Target and Walmart have curbside pickup but no groceries as they are older smaller stores. Amazon Fresh is not yet available in my area. Stop & Shop has PeaPod, but there is nothing but complaints about it, impossible to get scheduled deliveries and their website has been down for maintenance for at least 24 hours now.

My local Market Basket has had one of their employees pass away from COVID-19 :cry: :cry::cry::cry:

Other employees have tested positive and are in quarantine.
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you could see if Instacart is available for any stores near you. I... wasn't going to use them all the time. I didn't want to cross the picket line since a lot of shoppers are striking for more pay. But my girlfriend didn't want me going out to the grocery store so we've been using them. I've just been tipping at least 20% if not more. You may not be able to find an open time to get an order delivered for a couple of days. We've been planning meals well in advance in order to place an order for a week from today, for example.

If you use this link you can get $10 off your order, you may have better luck in finding a store that has it since I'd imagine you have more stores near you. Oddly enough, the closest grocery store to me is a 1 minute drive but they're not on Instacart, so I've been ordering from a store a mile away instead - Instacart - $10 off and Free Grocery Delivery.
 
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So the IHME model has revised its casualty projection down to 60,000 dead, and reaching peak resource use by the end of this week. Fauci tentatively predicts that schools will open on time for the next school year. Cuomo says NY is reaching a plateau.

I didn't expect to hear any of those somewhat promising things yesterday. Obviously it's too soon to assert any of them very confidently, but that was more hopeful on multiple fronts than I expected at this stage.
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I was sharing this website with a coworker today and the projections definitely did change for the better. I was looking at Alabama last week and it looked REALLY bad there, but nowhere near as bad now.

covid19.healthdata.org

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
covid19.healthdata.org covid19.healthdata.org

I've been thinking back to this Fauci quote recently. "if it looks like we're overreacting, then we'll have done the right thing." It would be great if our projections were wrong.

thehill.com

Fauci: ‘If it looks like you’re overreacting, you’re probably doing the right thing’

National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci said Sunday that it was better to err on the side of caution in coronavirus mitigation, even if the steps take…
thehill.com thehill.com
 
Indymisanthrope said:
So the IHME model has revised its casualty projection down to 60,000 dead, and reaching peak resource use by the end of this week. Fauci tentatively predicts that schools will open on time for the next school year. Cuomo says NY is reaching a plateau.

I didn't expect to hear any of those somewhat promising things yesterday. Obviously it's too soon to assert any of them very confidently, but that was more hopeful on multiple fronts than I expected at this stage.
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I saw a report yesterday which hinted at a positive change in the National model. The article I read claimed that here in N.C. we would reach peak around April 15. Our internal model still projects the peak sometime in early May. Given the ramp up I’m seeing locally and looking at trends on the jhu map.... if I were a betting man, I’d put money on our model. I may read some of these Links if I have time, but I’m having a hard time keeping up with entity documents at this point and am a little more concerned about a document for my team that we are currently shooting up the flagpole.
 
www.cnn.com

Right-wing media suggests coronavirus death toll is inflated, despite experts saying the opposite

Some of the biggest names in right-wing media are questioning the official Covid-19 death toll. Indeed, they're suggesting the numbers might be inflated in an effort to paint President Trump and/or the crisis in the worst possible light.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

Experts are saying the official death toll for COVID-19 is not reliable because it is under estimating the number of deaths. It does not include anyone who was not tested. Whether they died before they could be tested or died out side of the hospital.

However, the right wing media is reported that the official death toll is 'over inflated'.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
I have to figure out what I'm going to do for restocking on groceries.

They are advising to not go out to the grocery stores, but rather use curbside pickup or delivery.

Neither Market Basket or Shaws has either of those. The local Target and Walmart have curbside pickup but no groceries as they are older smaller stores. Amazon Fresh is not yet available in my area. Stop & Shop has PeaPod, but there is nothing but complaints about it, impossible to get scheduled deliveries and their website has been down for maintenance for at least 24 hours now.

My local Market Basket has had one of their employees pass away from COVID-19 :cry: :cry::cry::cry:

Other employees have tested positive and are in quarantine.
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You could also call them and see if they have a special service considering the current situation.
 
Dtknuckles said:
You could also call them and see if they have a special service considering the current situation.
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All they have going on right now is seniors only from 6:00am to 7:00am.

Other wise a maximum of 100 people including employees are allowed in the store at any given time. There is a queue line to get in the store that has well over 100 people last time I drive by.

I found Instacart is available here and will shop for you and deliver items for a $38 fee. But no slots are open. It's completely booked.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
www.cnn.com

Right-wing media suggests coronavirus death toll is inflated, despite experts saying the opposite

Some of the biggest names in right-wing media are questioning the official Covid-19 death toll. Indeed, they're suggesting the numbers might be inflated in an effort to paint President Trump and/or the crisis in the worst possible light.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

Experts are saying the official death toll for COVID-19 is not reliable because it is under estimating the number of deaths. It does not include anyone who was not tested. Whether they died before they could be tested or died out side of the hospital.

However, the right wing media is reported that the official death toll is 'over inflated'.
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No need to be an expert. As I already said, the first numbers in France didn't included people who died from the coronavirus outside of the hospitals. The death numbers are given by hospitals. So if someone dies at home, in nursing homes, jail, social structures, hotel, etc... These deaths are not included. Only this week French government started communicating on deaths in nursing homes (and the numbers are high, like very high).

EDIT: other countries are certainly doing the same. There is in fact no way to have an exact number. On a positive point, the numbers of people how were contaminated and are good now is also underestimated. Many people have the virus whitout any symptoms, others successfully fought the virus with no need to go to a hospital.
 
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RenegadeMonster said:
I have to figure out what I'm going to do for restocking on groceries.

They are advising to not go out to the grocery stores, but rather use curbside pickup or delivery.

Neither Market Basket or Shaws has either of those. The local Target and Walmart have curbside pickup but no groceries as they are older smaller stores. Amazon Fresh is not yet available in my area. Stop & Shop has PeaPod, but there is nothing but complaints about it, impossible to get scheduled deliveries and their website has been down for maintenance for at least 24 hours now.

My local Market Basket has had one of their employees pass away from COVID-19 :cry: :cry::cry::cry:

Other employees have tested positive and are in quarantine.
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wokeupnew said:
you could see if Instacart is available for any stores near you. I... wasn't going to use them all the time. I didn't want to cross the picket line since a lot of shoppers are striking for more pay. But my girlfriend didn't want me going out to the grocery store so we've been using them. I've just been tipping at least 20% if not more. You may not be able to find an open time to get an order delivered for a couple of days. We've been planning meals well in advance in order to place an order for a week from today, for example.

If you use this link you can get $10 off your order, you may have better luck in finding a store that has it since I'd imagine you have more stores near you. Oddly enough, the closest grocery store to me is a 1 minute drive but they're not on Instacart, so I've been ordering from a store a mile away instead - Instacart - $10 off and Free Grocery Delivery.
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The best option is to use small stores if they exist near you, change your shopping patterns.

It's all about chance of exposure, and going to giant supermarkets is a recipe for disaster. We have a co-op we go to here for most stuff, and you can also try like asian grocery stores which are smaller and generally well stocked. Then save your trips to the big store for like once a month to stock up, and go during off times.
 
gouis said:
The best option is to use small stores if they exist near you, change your shopping patterns.

It's all about chance of exposure, and going to giant supermarkets is a recipe for disaster. We have a co-op we go to here for most stuff, and you can also try like asian grocery stores which are smaller and generally well stocked. Then save your trips to the big store for like once a month to stock up, and go during off times.
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My Asian grocery actually closed for a couple weeks. I'm not sure why. I actually felt safer there because they were wearing masks and wiping down the conveyor belts after each use long before the other grocery stores were doing anything. I don't blame them if they wanted to reduce their exposure and risk of getting sick.
 
it's nice to live in a state with a competent governor and health department. this page is updated everyday at 11am and over the past few weeks as more data has been accumulated, more figures were offered.


our stay at home order was extended to May 4th this afternoon. infections and deaths are still increasing here of course but we seem to be doing well / have decreased the rates. i think the models have us about a week out from peak infection.
 
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Interesting case study showing how COVID-19 spreads and why social distancing is really important in the fight. It details how a single person can set off a disastrous chain reaction.

One infected person with very mild symptoms resulted in at least 15 down-line infections and 3 deaths.


original publication:

www.cdc.gov

Community Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 at Two Family Gatherings ...

Investigation of COVID-19 cases in Chicago identified a cluster of 16 confirmed or probable cases, including three deaths, likely resulting from one introduction.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

And because I like charts, this is how they graphed out the case study:

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Skalap said:
No need to be an expert. As I already said, the first numbers in France didn't included people who died from the coronavirus outside of the hospitals. The death numbers are given by hospitals. So if someone dies at home, in nursing homes, jail, social structures, hotel, etc... These deaths are not included. Only this week French government started communicating on deaths in nursing homes (and the numbers are high, like very high).

EDIT: other countries are certainly doing the same. There is in fact no way to have an exact number. On a positive point, the numbers of people how were contaminated and are good now is also underestimated. Many people have the virus whitout any symptoms, others successfully fought the virus with no need to go to a hospital.
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There are huge complexities in calculating death rates that give unfortunate scope for argument and it’s been rammed home by a sad event today. A good friend of mine lost his father this afternoon. He was 93, had advanced dementia and had fallen badly roughly two weeks ago. While in hospital, being treated he was tested and came back positive for COVID19 and his death certificate will reflect this- he will be one small part of the UK figures tomorrow whatever they are. Those figures cannot reflect that his chances of survival even before the pandemic were not especially good.
 
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