Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

Local Facebook groups are popping up with info on where you can go that wont enforce social distancing, mask or glove wearing.

There seems to be a lot of interest in people to go to stores or take out places that won't require them to use a mask or enforce other social distancing measures.

Sighs :mad:

Why is this so god damn important to people.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
I just saw someone who leans conservative posted this online. Someone who is not far right or believes in conspiracies. Someone who you would find a very intelligent and respectable. They lean conservative because they are affluent and in money management, and republican policies work in their favor.
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Generally, it is not completely wrong, i think. it is indeed what you see in many countries in europe right now. Countries are step by step reducing the corona measures.. How it works, we'll see in a few weeks. But a main difference seems to be that some precautions were done during the lockdown. Hospital and testing capacities were ramped up, there are social distancing plans enacted for the reopening ( e.g. in germany masks are mandatory in public transport and shops) and metrjcs defined in terms of R value and trends in number of infections to monitor effects of the reopening closely and shut things back down if necessary. There is great fear of a second wave, but most people around here seem to embrace the freedoms gained back and try to use tgem responsibly. From the outside it looks like this planning for a phased easing of the stay at home orders and the capabilitiees to monitor the Development seems to be missing. There seems to be a very hard political border between strict stay at home and let's just get completely back to normal now that seems to roughly align with the dem vs rep narrative.
 
wokeupnew said:
Our "kitchen" is currently part of a larger open living space, the "kitchen" portion is actually closest to the actual kitchen where we have a table set up. If there was another person or small child watching tv or playing right next to us I... don't know how I'd deal with that. So yeah, people love open concept but walls are also good for separation. I think the open concept design will be on the decline a little bit with all of this happening.
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Yeah, you've described my wfh situation perfectly. Except there are two small people under 5 and a large person trying to parent them while also trying to get work done and I have to help not infrequently and am the only one who can get them to nap.

We started back at the office several days a week and while I have conflicting feelings about safety, I also feel guilty because it is so relatively relaxing.
 
Jan said:
Generally, it is not completely wrong, i think. it is indeed what you see in many countries in europe right now. Countries are step by step reducing the corona measures.. How it works, we'll see in a few weeks. But a main difference seems to be that some precautions were done during the lockdown. Hospital and testing capacities were ramped up, there are social distancing plans enacted for the reopening ( e.g. in germany masks are mandatory in public transport and shops) and metrjcs defined in terms of R value and trends in number of infections to monitor effects of the reopening closely and shut things back down if necessary. There is great fear of a second wave, but most people around here seem to embrace the freedoms gained back and try to use tgem responsibly. From the outside it looks like this planning for a phased easing of the stay at home orders and the capabilitiees to monitor the Development seems to be missing. There seems to be a very hard political border between strict stay at home and let's just get completely back to normal now that seems to roughly align with the dem vs rep narrative.
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One issue I take is we haven't flattened the curve in the United States. New York is now in a steep decline of new cases and deaths. New York alone is flattening the curve. Removing New York and just looking at the other 49 states we see we still are on the upward slope and accelerating.

New York was a big hot spot. Its numbers alone are skewing the national curve.

While I don't disagree with what that person said, I think there is a misunderstanding on what flatten the curve means. I think we are pushing to open too soon.

We also need to phase in structured steps to reopening and put safety guidelines in place. Not just say, well, we can't mandate masks because people just wont follow that order in red states. Red states plans for reopening are also accelerated, such as adding 25% more capacity / businesses every 2 weeks.

There also seems to be no plan in place for if we need to shut down again when waive two hits. It's like we did it boys, crisis averted. Ohio is even going as far trying to pass legislation to limit the health department / health director ability to issue future stay at home orders should one be needed.
 
Just got an Apple News notification that had me reading an article on deflation caused by coronavirus lockdowns.

We have seen 2 months in a row now with a decline in prices for Oil, Cloths, cars, air fair and general merchandise.

Meanwhile food and rent prices continue to soar. Food prices have seen their largest increase since February of 1974, rising 2.6% last month.


Food is up because of demand. More people are eating at home and cooking. For example, most people are making their own lunches everyday now, where as before Coronavirus most of my coworkers got pickup for lunch every day.

As to why rent continues to soar, I don't have an answer. I'm assuming because it can.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
I just saw someone who leans conservative posted this online. Someone who is not far right or believes in conspiracies. Someone who you would find a very intelligent and respectable. They lean conservative because they are affluent and in money management, and republican policies work in their favor.
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You know what, I sort of agree with some of what he says. Except for the part that the goal that hospitals are protected is achieved. This is not necessarily true if you get a massive spike when you reopen without doing it correctly. You're basically back to the same place you were two months ago and you have to shut everything down once again. You need a great testing and tracing program in place for starter. You also need people and business to buy-in to health and safety measures.
 
So I *might* have let my brain go into a dark place last night. But this is it, isn't it? This is how society descends into those post-apocolyptic like movies we see? The violence over wearing masks and being open or closed is going to escalate to the point of needing armed intervention. Red states and blue states are going to be at each others' throats. Or heck, blue cities and red rural areas. It will descend into a civil war. Other countries will get involved. Supply changes will be disrupted. Vaccines will become commodity.

Or.... we get rid of the idiot in the WH in Nov and slowly start to get back to some sort of acceptance of fact as fact, science as our guiding principal and respect for each other.
 
Teeeee said:
So I *might* have let my brain go into a dark place last night. But this is it, isn't it? This is how society descends into those post-apocolyptic like movies we see? The violence over wearing masks and being open or closed is going to escalate to the point of needing armed intervention. Red states and blue states are going to be at each others' throats. Or heck, blue cities and red rural areas. It will descend into a civil war. Other countries will get involved. Supply changes will be disrupted. Vaccines will become commodity.

Or.... we get rid of the idiot in the WH in Nov and slowly start to get back to some sort of acceptance of fact as fact, science as our guiding principal and respect for each other.
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i will start the underground railroad and people who want to be safe i will smuggle to my house in canada lol

in all seriousness i hope everyones healthy and doing ok
 
Teeeee said:
So I *might* have let my brain go into a dark place last night. But this is it, isn't it? This is how society descends into those post-apocolyptic like movies we see? The violence over wearing masks and being open or closed is going to escalate to the point of needing armed intervention. Red states and blue states are going to be at each others' throats. Or heck, blue cities and red rural areas. It will descend into a civil war. Other countries will get involved. Supply changes will be disrupted. Vaccines will become commodity.

Or.... we get rid of the idiot in the WH in Nov and slowly start to get back to some sort of acceptance of fact as fact, science as our guiding principal and respect for each other.
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I like your 'Or' much better than your dark place.
 
Teeeee said:
So I *might* have let my brain go into a dark place last night. But this is it, isn't it? This is how society descends into those post-apocolyptic like movies we see? The violence over wearing masks and being open or closed is going to escalate to the point of needing armed intervention. Red states and blue states are going to be at each others' throats. Or heck, blue cities and red rural areas. It will descend into a civil war. Other countries will get involved. Supply changes will be disrupted. Vaccines will become commodity.
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Good morning! How you doin'? ;)
Teeeee said:
Or.... we get rid of the idiot in the WH in Nov and slowly start to get back to some sort of acceptance of fact as fact, science as our guiding principal and respect for each other.
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I don't think it matters who the President is as far as the RoRo is concerned. People will behave in a way that they are inclined to behave. As for the physical-distancing, lack of large events and general lack of being actually social, I don't see how waiting a few more weeks or months changes anything. We're waiting for a widely-available vaccine. Until that happens... tomorrow looks like today.

I'm sad for the loss of sports - not just at the top level, but at all levels. It's a thing that really brings disparate groups of people together and gives them something to bind over and to share. We're a tribal species. I used to live in Buffalo, NY; if you tell people they can't tailgate and go to the Bills games, some people have no reason to exist. What the hell else are you gonna do in Buffalo? Sports bind so many communities together. It's a release for a lot of people. Screaming, yelling, cussing, cheering. It's all gotta vent somewhere else if we don't have our sports to placate us.

And only the top pro leagues existing and playing in empty stadiums/arenas for the sake of tv can fuck right off.
 
High Rant District said:
I used to live in Buffalo, NY; if you tell people they can't tailgate and go to the Bills games, some people have no reason to exist. What the hell else are you gonna do in Buffalo? Sports bind so many communities together.
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I see your Buffalo tailgate and I invite you to Baton Rouge for an LSU home game.

GEAUX TIGERS!

That is all.
 
One of my fellow black-sheep family members (yes, they do exist) just posted this and tagged the rest of my family, whom are conspiracy-minded, orange gebbeth loving, 'Murica patriots. I cannot wait till they start chiming in that COVID was somehow created by Soros.

Popcorn gif at the ready 😂

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