Max Sterling
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Or need to be incentivized into getting vaccinated...
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I think this is incentivizing their parents.
bfly
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Tickets to Florida concert are $18 if you're vaccinated, $1,000 if you're not
So far, no one has bought the full-price $1,000 ticket, but the promoter says if they do, they'll be treated just like everyone else.
www.nbcnews.com
industry navigating requirements and figuring out how to enforce/handle rules when the local gov doesn't set them.
I got my first dose of Pfizer the other day. I did get a raised bump at the injection site that calmed down after a day and I also had soreness where I got stuck for a couple of days. However, nothing all that bad as far as side effects. I hope I can say this after the next shot.
Also, I found this article very appropriate:
www.mcsweeneys.net
Also, I found this article very appropriate:
Vaccine Side Effect, or Have You Just Been Alive for 40 Years?
Did you get the COVID-19 vaccine? A) Yes, because I’m ready to get back out there and start partying again! B) Yes, because I am haunted ...
www.mcsweeneys.net
The mask mandate has been lifted in Massachusetts as of May 28th. Here is what I have noticed when traveling around Massachusetts and visiting family over the long holiday weekend.
In Amherst, a community that is very liberal and has 4 colleges / universities masks were still to be seen everywhere. People walking around on the sidewalks were still wearing them, all staff at stores and restaurants were still wearing them. Most restaurants are still operating in curbside pickup or takeout only. Those that are open still have social distancing seating. It was very hard to find a sit down place open in Amherst to meet up with my Aunt for lunch.
Outside of Amherst and Northampton (which have a reputation in Western Massachusetts as being liberal and places to avoid) there wasn't a mask to see in Western Massachusetts. No staff at restaurants, bars or tap rooms or retails stores were wearing any. Not a single patron of any of these establishments (other than us) had masks on and no one out and about on the streets did.
When we went to a tap room on Sunday and walked in with our masks on we got judged. A table of of people pointed at us and made a comment about our masks and they laughed. Something about "Sheeple" was said.
Only about 30% to 40% of people in the rural towns of Western Massachusetts have been vaccinated. The vaccines are available but people don't want them. They don't want be a "guinea pig for a new vaccine" or are like "I've never gotten a flu shot in my life. I'm not going to get one now just for the rona".
Back here in Salem a lot of stores are still requiring masks. This includes Market Basket (a regional supermarket).
My experience stopping by Market Basket today to stock up on food for the week now that I'm back home was about 25% of the people in the store did not have masks on even though they have signage saying masks still required. A person at the front door telling you have to put a mask on enter and constant PA announcements. But I noticed a lot of people just ripping the mask off after they got past the person at the front door checking. Lots of people were giving the person at the front door shit as well over masks and how it's no longer a state mandate. I saw one guy turn around and leave the store telling them they just lost a customer.
In Amherst, a community that is very liberal and has 4 colleges / universities masks were still to be seen everywhere. People walking around on the sidewalks were still wearing them, all staff at stores and restaurants were still wearing them. Most restaurants are still operating in curbside pickup or takeout only. Those that are open still have social distancing seating. It was very hard to find a sit down place open in Amherst to meet up with my Aunt for lunch.
Outside of Amherst and Northampton (which have a reputation in Western Massachusetts as being liberal and places to avoid) there wasn't a mask to see in Western Massachusetts. No staff at restaurants, bars or tap rooms or retails stores were wearing any. Not a single patron of any of these establishments (other than us) had masks on and no one out and about on the streets did.
When we went to a tap room on Sunday and walked in with our masks on we got judged. A table of of people pointed at us and made a comment about our masks and they laughed. Something about "Sheeple" was said.
Only about 30% to 40% of people in the rural towns of Western Massachusetts have been vaccinated. The vaccines are available but people don't want them. They don't want be a "guinea pig for a new vaccine" or are like "I've never gotten a flu shot in my life. I'm not going to get one now just for the rona".
Back here in Salem a lot of stores are still requiring masks. This includes Market Basket (a regional supermarket).
My experience stopping by Market Basket today to stock up on food for the week now that I'm back home was about 25% of the people in the store did not have masks on even though they have signage saying masks still required. A person at the front door telling you have to put a mask on enter and constant PA announcements. But I noticed a lot of people just ripping the mask off after they got past the person at the front door checking. Lots of people were giving the person at the front door shit as well over masks and how it's no longer a state mandate. I saw one guy turn around and leave the store telling them they just lost a customer.
wokeupnew
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I've visited Northampton plenty of times and love it. Great little city. I dunno why but Iol'ed at this statement.
EDIT: I've got nothing else to add to this other than, you'll notice the loud minority. 1 person saying "sheeple" (bit weird) sticks out compared to 10 in that same business not caring.
Dtknuckles
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Strange things that you find out because you take a weekly Covid test. One nasal passage is bigger than the other.
The Trumpies in rural MA love to poke fun at it over things like it being a sanctuary city, supporting LGBTQ and during COVID, especially over the mask requirements and stricter city restrictions. There is a lot of "That's where the Libs live".
I too lol at hearing Northampton called out like that.
Americans 21+ eligible for free beer once 70% of US adults are partially vaccinated
To date, 62.8% of the adult U.S. population have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and 133.6 million are fully vaccinated.
abc7.com
New variant in Vietnam.
Vietnam's health ministry has detected a suspected new coronavirus variant which it said appears to be a hybrid of two highly transmissible strains.
"A new coronavirus variant with characteristics from the existing Indian and UK variants had been detected in Vietnam for the first time," Vietnam's Minister of Health Nguyen Thanh Long told a national news conference Saturday.
www.cnn.com
Vietnam's health ministry has detected a suspected new coronavirus variant which it said appears to be a hybrid of two highly transmissible strains.
"A new coronavirus variant with characteristics from the existing Indian and UK variants had been detected in Vietnam for the first time," Vietnam's Minister of Health Nguyen Thanh Long told a national news conference Saturday.
Vietnam says it has detected a new coronavirus variant as cases surge
Vietnam's health ministry has detected a suspected new coronavirus variant which it said appears to be a hybrid of two highly transmissible strains.
www.cnn.com
I just read a post by someone who left me shaking my head. He was arguing that it's not rural Americans/Republicans who are resisting getting the vaccine. "It's the libs. More specifically Illegals and blacks in urban centers who don't trust the government."
My two aunts, uncle, father and stepfather who are all republicans living in rural areas and big Trumpies all will not be getting the vaccine. If you ask them if they will be getting a vaccine it's a very definitive "Hell No". They don't want to be a guinea pig to a new vaccine. I also believe they object to it because the government is asking them to get it.
While that doesn't represent all rural Americans who lean republican, I'd suspect there are more of them who are resistant to getting a vaccine than "illegals" or "blacks".
My two aunts, uncle, father and stepfather who are all republicans living in rural areas and big Trumpies all will not be getting the vaccine. If you ask them if they will be getting a vaccine it's a very definitive "Hell No". They don't want to be a guinea pig to a new vaccine. I also believe they object to it because the government is asking them to get it.
While that doesn't represent all rural Americans who lean republican, I'd suspect there are more of them who are resistant to getting a vaccine than "illegals" or "blacks".
Goatfish
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Sounds like a pretty racist language based on the delivery of the comments, but demographics-wise, it appears to be fairly accurate as far as vaccine uptake. I don't think anyone can make any meaningful conclusions on WHY there is a demographic split - just speculation:
Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity | KFF
KFF is collecting and analyzing data on COVID-19 vaccinations by race/ethnicity to gain increased insight who is receiving the vaccine and whether some groups are facing disparities in vaccination.
www.kff.org
COVID Data Tracker
CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov
The rural white Americans live in more sparsely populated areas that are less effected by COVID outbreaks. The greater concern would be getting to maximum vaccine uptake in urban areas and places with higher population density, so hopefully these demographic trends shift soon.
bfly
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word from co-workers in Taipei:
Taiwan had handled the virus fairly well, and most of the population had no interest in a vaccine since they "had no cases." due to little interest and need, the government got a low amount of doses- and now cases are spiking wildly again. manufacturing plants are grinding to a halt once more, and vast swathes of the population are being made to work from home again, or not work.
similar things happening in Japan as well.
Taiwan had handled the virus fairly well, and most of the population had no interest in a vaccine since they "had no cases." due to little interest and need, the government got a low amount of doses- and now cases are spiking wildly again. manufacturing plants are grinding to a halt once more, and vast swathes of the population are being made to work from home again, or not work.
similar things happening in Japan as well.
Chucktshoes
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Everything about this pandemic, from how folks reacted to it to how they feel about the vaccine is far more complicated than the simple partisan divides that have been presented in media stories.Sounds like a pretty racist language based on the delivery of the comments, but demographics-wise, it appears to be fairly accurate as far as vaccine uptake. I don't think anyone can make any meaningful conclusions on WHY there is a demographic split - just speculation:
Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity | KFF
KFF is collecting and analyzing data on COVID-19 vaccinations by race/ethnicity to gain increased insight who is receiving the vaccine and whether some groups are facing disparities in vaccination.
COVID Data Tracker
CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.covid.cdc.gov
The rural white Americans live in more sparsely populated areas that are less effected by COVID outbreaks. The greater concern would be getting to maximum vaccine uptake in urban areas and places with higher population density, so hopefully these demographic trends shift soon.
The folks who actively participated in the overt politicization of the pandemic should be strung up for the damage they’ve done. They’ve prevented any chance that ever existed to not just present folks with reasoned options, but also made it near impossible to correctly identify issues that may prevent folks from making reasoned choices.
This is the point where I would normally say ‘a pox on them all’ but the pox is already on us all.
85% of republicans believe it is a HIPAA violation if businesses ask them for a proof vaccination.
HIPAA has absolutely nothing to do with this. HIPAA only covers employee's of a business. Not a businesses patrons.
HIPAA has absolutely nothing to do with this. HIPAA only covers employee's of a business. Not a businesses patrons.
Chucktshoes
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The general public as a whole have no clue how HIPAA functions.
Regardless, I’m not offering up medical information to any yahoo who asks. If the choice is to present personal medical information or not patronize a business, the business loses my patronage permanently.
Skeletonframes
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To further expand on this, anyone can ask for anyone else's medical history. The violation only occurs if the medical professional releases the information without the patient's okay.
My work can ask my doctor for my past medical history. No violations there. They can ask me. No violation. The concert venue can request proof of vaccination. No HIPAA violation. I can give the information to all parties that asked for it. Still no violation. My doctor can contact me and ask me if I am okay with them releasing the information to my work. NO VIOLATION. A concert venue or a restaurant or a grocery store can deny my entrance if I don't show them proof of vaccination. Violation? Nope! My doctor or any other medical professional releases my private info without asking me, first? Ding ding ding. There's where HIPAA comes in.
The amount of people that think HIPAA has anything to do with entrance to private establishments, or that HIPAA means that all medical information is some Secret File never to be opened is wild.
I could also be really wrong about that. I'm going off of a paper I read years and years ago that, admittedly, I barely understood any of. This is just what my jelly-brain got out of it, after Googling half the words. Ha.
@Skeletonframes Yup, that's all right. The only thing I would add to it is it's not must medical professionals releasing your private information without your consent. You employer also can not release any of your medical information without your consent. Say you have a medical condition that you require accommodation for. It would be a HIPAA violation is they disclosed what that medical condition was without your consent to anyone who asked them.
And don't forget about places like your insurance company. They also cannot release your medical information without your consent. There was a big story about this not too long ago where Google was partnering with Ascension health systems under the guise of helping them with their data, since they are a largely non-profit Catholic based hospital system:
On November 14 last year, the British Guardian published an account from an anonymous whistleblower at Google, accusing the company of misconduct in regard to handling sensitive health data. The whistleblower works for Project Nightingale, an attempt by Google to get into the lucrative US healthcare market, by storing and processing the personal medical data of up to 50 million customers of Ascension, one of America's largest healthcare providers. As the Wall Street Journal had already reported 3 days earlier, and as the whistleblower confirmed, neither was the data anonymized when transmitted from Ascension nor were patients or their doctors notified, let alone asked for consent to sharing their data with Google (Copeland, 2019; Pilkington, 2019). As a result, Google employees had full access to non‐anonymous patient health data.
Google's Project Nightingale highlights the necessity of data science ethics review
On November 14 last year, the British Guardian published an account from an anonymous whistleblower at Google, accusing the company of misconduct in regard to handling sensitive health data. The whistleblower works for Project Nightingale, an attempt ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And technically, Google can get away with this:
Ascension, a Catholic not-for-profit health system, said in a press release all of Google's work with its data is "underpinned by a robust data security and protection effort" and compliant with its "strict requirements for data handling."
The 1996 HIPAA law allows such data collection without direct patient consent as long as its is being used to help the secondary company "carry out its health care functions." In this case, the function is to design new software leveraging its hefty artificial intelligence and machine learning capabilities for care management and personalized health recommendations, with the end goal of creating a search tool aggregating patient data in one place, the documents reportedly say.
Google's 'Project Nightingale' prompts HHS investigation
The Office of Civil Rights launched a federal inquiry into Google's R&D using the personal health information of tens of millions of patients from Ascension, the nation's second-largest health system.
Here's the deal with a lot of these algorithms; they are put into place to score patients for potential adverse health events. What this means is that they are trying to figure out when the people in these health systems hit a critical point where they become high users of health care (i.e. their benefits cost too much for employers to want to fund). I'm worried because as I work in healthcare, I see a constant obsession with finding accurate AI models to score people. I am concerned that these models will be used against people in the future.
Anywho, sorry to go off on a tangent...