Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus
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Sonicpharmacist
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Where this occurred isn’t too far from me. I’m appalled.
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Montana health officer says he was forced to resign after being blamed for death after doc denies livestock drug
Physician's assistant Nick Lawyer says that he was forced to resign from his position as the Sanders County health official after a man blamed him for his wife's death, revealed CBS News reporter David Begnaud. According to Lawyer, the man is claiming that his wife was denied Ivermectin...
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Joe Mac
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'Desperate need' to get vaccines to Africa - Brown
'Desperate need' to get vaccines to Africa - Brown
"To allow this disease to spread uninhibited, in the poorest countries of the world and to leave people unprotected against it, is really a crime against humanity and it cannot be allowed to continue".
'Desperate need' to get vaccines to Africa - Brown
"To allow this disease to spread uninhibited, in the poorest countries of the world and to leave people unprotected against it, is really a crime against humanity and it cannot be allowed to continue".
Jan
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It´s sad that the whole politization ov COVID just eroded trust in medicine and doctors so much. These people do what they can to save lives and now eevrybody comes in with their own treatments cobbled from the webWhere this occurred isn’t too far from me. I’m appalled.
Montana health officer says he was forced to resign after being blamed for death after doc denies livestock drug
Physician's assistant Nick Lawyer says that he was forced to resign from his position as the Sanders County health official after a man blamed him for his wife's death, revealed CBS News reporter David Begnaud. According to Lawyer, the man is claiming that his wife was denied Ivermectin...
This is without a doubt the biggest tragedy. The western world is too obsessed with market share and not obsessed enough with saving humans.
yukbon
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You don't need a specific "don't leave the kids in the car" law, there's already a law against child endangerment.
Really trying to wrap my head around all of this. The vaccines don't seem to stop transmission, just bad symptoms:
Overall, 79% of the 233 inmates were fully vaccinated, and almost three-quarters of all inmates tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.
Within the subgroup, there was no significant difference in median interval between reported symptom onset and last positive RT-PCR test between vaccinated and unvaccinated people (9 vs 11, respectively). Among 58 specimens undergoing genomic sequencing, all were from the Delta variant.
Among fully vaccinated seronegative people, attack rates were significantly higher among those who received Pfizer versus the Moderna vaccine (85% vs 54%, P<0.001). But interestingly, 76% of fully vaccinated inmates who received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine were vaccinated at least 4 months prior to the outbreak, while all the fully vaccinated Moderna recipients were vaccinated within 4 months of the outbreak.
"The high number of infections in vaccinated persons, comparable duration of positive RT-PCR test results after symptom onset regardless of vaccination status, and presence of infectious virus in specimens from both unvaccinated and vaccinated infected persons underscore the importance of implementing and maintaining multiple COVID-19 prevention strategies in settings where physical distancing is challenging, even when vaccination coverage is high," they wrote.
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Overall, 79% of the 233 inmates were fully vaccinated, and almost three-quarters of all inmates tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.
Within the subgroup, there was no significant difference in median interval between reported symptom onset and last positive RT-PCR test between vaccinated and unvaccinated people (9 vs 11, respectively). Among 58 specimens undergoing genomic sequencing, all were from the Delta variant.
Among fully vaccinated seronegative people, attack rates were significantly higher among those who received Pfizer versus the Moderna vaccine (85% vs 54%, P<0.001). But interestingly, 76% of fully vaccinated inmates who received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine were vaccinated at least 4 months prior to the outbreak, while all the fully vaccinated Moderna recipients were vaccinated within 4 months of the outbreak.
"The high number of infections in vaccinated persons, comparable duration of positive RT-PCR test results after symptom onset regardless of vaccination status, and presence of infectious virus in specimens from both unvaccinated and vaccinated infected persons underscore the importance of implementing and maintaining multiple COVID-19 prevention strategies in settings where physical distancing is challenging, even when vaccination coverage is high," they wrote.
COVID Vaccines No Match for a Delta Prison Outbreak
High number of positive tests among exposed inmates, but outcomes were less severe
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dbarila
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To me it makes a little bit of sense that places like prisons where it's a population contained in close quarters would have more breakthrough infections. They're more likely to have prolonged exposure to the virus. I'm not quite sure this situation translates to real world scenarios where you're generally not exposed to a mass population of people 24 hours a day. But obviously I'm not virus expert. I still hang my hat on that most of those with severe infections are unvaccinated.Really trying to wrap my head around all of this. The vaccines don't seem to stop transmission, just bad symptoms:
Overall, 79% of the 233 inmates were fully vaccinated, and almost three-quarters of all inmates tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.
Within the subgroup, there was no significant difference in median interval between reported symptom onset and last positive RT-PCR test between vaccinated and unvaccinated people (9 vs 11, respectively). Among 58 specimens undergoing genomic sequencing, all were from the Delta variant.
Among fully vaccinated seronegative people, attack rates were significantly higher among those who received Pfizer versus the Moderna vaccine (85% vs 54%, P<0.001). But interestingly, 76% of fully vaccinated inmates who received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine were vaccinated at least 4 months prior to the outbreak, while all the fully vaccinated Moderna recipients were vaccinated within 4 months of the outbreak.
"The high number of infections in vaccinated persons, comparable duration of positive RT-PCR test results after symptom onset regardless of vaccination status, and presence of infectious virus in specimens from both unvaccinated and vaccinated infected persons underscore the importance of implementing and maintaining multiple COVID-19 prevention strategies in settings where physical distancing is challenging, even when vaccination coverage is high," they wrote.
COVID Vaccines No Match for a Delta Prison Outbreak
High number of positive tests among exposed inmates, but outcomes were less severe
ayayrawn
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Headlines like these are so fucking irresponsible, and I see them everywhere. Infuriating.Really trying to wrap my head around all of this. The vaccines don't seem to stop transmission, just bad symptoms:
Overall, 79% of the 233 inmates were fully vaccinated, and almost three-quarters of all inmates tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.
Within the subgroup, there was no significant difference in median interval between reported symptom onset and last positive RT-PCR test between vaccinated and unvaccinated people (9 vs 11, respectively). Among 58 specimens undergoing genomic sequencing, all were from the Delta variant.
Among fully vaccinated seronegative people, attack rates were significantly higher among those who received Pfizer versus the Moderna vaccine (85% vs 54%, P<0.001). But interestingly, 76% of fully vaccinated inmates who received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine were vaccinated at least 4 months prior to the outbreak, while all the fully vaccinated Moderna recipients were vaccinated within 4 months of the outbreak.
"The high number of infections in vaccinated persons, comparable duration of positive RT-PCR test results after symptom onset regardless of vaccination status, and presence of infectious virus in specimens from both unvaccinated and vaccinated infected persons underscore the importance of implementing and maintaining multiple COVID-19 prevention strategies in settings where physical distancing is challenging, even when vaccination coverage is high," they wrote.
COVID Vaccines No Match for a Delta Prison Outbreak
High number of positive tests among exposed inmates, but outcomes were less severe
People ask me why I got out of public health, and it's largely because it was too political. I saw people get promoted and appointed to positions that were questionable choices. Exhibit A:
Joseph Ladapo, MD, PhD, and Ryan Cole, MD, spread disinformation about COVID-19. Now they're in prominent public health positions.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) appointed Ladapo to the position of state Surgeon General on Tuesday, and commissioners of Idaho's largest county appointed Cole to its health board last week.
Ladapo has been known for his Wall Street Journal op-eds questioning COVID vaccines, masks, lockdowns, and more, while Cole is known for disparaging COVID vaccines and for not getting vaccinated himself.
As Florida Surgeon General, Ladapo will oversee the state's department of health. According to the Miami Herald, when asked whether Florida should be promoting vaccination, Ladapo said it "should be promoting good health, and vaccination isn't the only path for that. It's been treated almost like a religion, and that's just senseless."
Cole was appointed to the health board of Idaho's Ada County, where Boise is located, after it had let go another member over their support for pandemic restrictions, according to the Washington Post. That board member had held the position for 15 years and was a former president of the American Academy of Family Physicians.
Many wanted an epidemiologist endorsed by the Idaho Medical Association to take the seat, but Ada County Commissioners gave the job to Cole for his "outsider" perspective and his willingness to question medical norms, the Post reported.
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Joseph Ladapo, MD, PhD, and Ryan Cole, MD, spread disinformation about COVID-19. Now they're in prominent public health positions.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) appointed Ladapo to the position of state Surgeon General on Tuesday, and commissioners of Idaho's largest county appointed Cole to its health board last week.
Ladapo has been known for his Wall Street Journal op-eds questioning COVID vaccines, masks, lockdowns, and more, while Cole is known for disparaging COVID vaccines and for not getting vaccinated himself.
As Florida Surgeon General, Ladapo will oversee the state's department of health. According to the Miami Herald, when asked whether Florida should be promoting vaccination, Ladapo said it "should be promoting good health, and vaccination isn't the only path for that. It's been treated almost like a religion, and that's just senseless."
Cole was appointed to the health board of Idaho's Ada County, where Boise is located, after it had let go another member over their support for pandemic restrictions, according to the Washington Post. That board member had held the position for 15 years and was a former president of the American Academy of Family Physicians.
Many wanted an epidemiologist endorsed by the Idaho Medical Association to take the seat, but Ada County Commissioners gave the job to Cole for his "outsider" perspective and his willingness to question medical norms, the Post reported.
'Disinfo Docs' Land Public Health Jobs; Pediatrician Faces School Board Ouster
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Texas doctor fired for using leftover Covid-19 vaccine doses sues county for discrimination
A Texas public health doctor fired earlier this year for using leftover doses of Covid-19 vaccine on eligible individuals is suing Harris County for $1 million, saying he was fired for giving "the vaccine to too many individuals with 'Indian' sounding names."
A Texas doctor was fired for giving leftover vaccine doses to eligible people rather than discarding them.
Harris county says it was theft and that "HCPH also told Gokal he "should have instead thrown the vaccines away". He says it was because of giving "the vaccine to too many individuals with 'Indian' sounding names." And he was doing what any responsible medical profession would do. Get as many available doses out to those as eligible as fast as possible.
The theft is for the doses, but rather the resources of the staff being used to give the shots out. A grand jury heard this case and did not indict the Texas doctor.
Max Sterling
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I don't understand the theft claim, the vaccine's are free...EDIT: Oh, I misread your post. Even so, we're not paying these people to administer the doses, if someone is eligible, there was no theft. It's their job to vaccinate... and anyone eligible can get it for free... where was the theft?Texas doctor fired for using leftover Covid-19 vaccine doses sues county for discrimination
A Texas public health doctor fired earlier this year for using leftover doses of Covid-19 vaccine on eligible individuals is suing Harris County for $1 million, saying he was fired for giving "the vaccine to too many individuals with 'Indian' sounding names."www.cnn.com
A Texas doctor was fired for giving leftover vaccine doses to eligible people rather than discarding them.
Harris county says it was theft and that "HCPH also told Gokal he "should have instead thrown the vaccines away". He says it was because of giving "the vaccine to too many individuals with 'Indian' sounding names." And he was doing what any responsible medical profession would do. Get as many available doses out to those as eligible as fast as possible.
The theft is for the doses, but rather the resources of the staff being used to give the shots out. A grand jury heard this case and did not indict the Texas doctor.
LeSamourai
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Wait, my religion required ten percent of my income and two years living on another continent working over-60 hour weeks that I paid for. You're telling me all I have to do for this new religion is get vaccinated?!
Use of facilities, use of staff to administer shots and so on.
Essentially it's comparable to using your companies computers and software to complete freelance work. At least that's the argument they are trying to make.
Essentially, they are just being pricks about police, and are using it to terminate him. Likely for a different reason, they were looking for something to get him on.
The more I think about this, the more it might make sense because of some research I read about and my old public health knowledge regarding increased HIV/AIDS prevalence in prison populations. Here's the crux of the matter:
A 36-year-old woman with advanced HIV carried the novel coronavirus for 216 days, during which the virus accumulated more than 30 mutations, a new study has found.
If more such cases are found, it raises the prospect that HIV infection could be a source of new variants simply because the patients could carry the virus for longer, Tulio de Oliveira, a geneticist at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in Durban and the study’s author, told the Times.
But it is probably the exception rather than the rule for people living for HIV, because prolonged infection requires severe immunocompromise, Dr Juan Ambrosini, associate professor of infectious diseases at the University of Barcelona, said. Indeed, the woman in the case study was immunosuppressed. The findings are important for the control of Covid-19 because these patients could be a continuous source of transmission and evolution of the virus, Ambrosini said.
Woman with HIV had Covid-19 for 216 days, virus mutated 32 times inside her
If more such cases are found, it raises the prospect that HIV infection could be a source of new variants.
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If this is happening in Africa, I'm sure this is happening in prison populations, too. They keep saying that there is no reinfection, but I really do think there might be reinfection if you get a separate variant.
Turbo
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A man went into a pharmacy in Sherbrooke QC a few days ago and started beating the nurse providing her time for vaccination. If that alone wasn't bad enough... Apparently, he wasn't happy his wife got vaccinated without his permission. The nurse was hospitalized but is ok. The man is still on the run.
Seriously, some people are nuts. It's essentially a religious fervor at this point.
School children are once again in the middle of the political debate over covid precautions. In some parts of the country precautions are being increased as cases surge in schools
While in others, I'm looking at your Florida, Ron Desantis signed an executive order allowing asymptomatic students to go to school after a positive test result. Though we know they can still spread COVID.
While in others, I'm looking at your Florida, Ron Desantis signed an executive order allowing asymptomatic students to go to school after a positive test result. Though we know they can still spread COVID.
yukbon
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yeah, the dude's trash. the best thing you can say for him is he's definitely the lapdog that desantis wants in order to appease the base he's appealing to.People ask me why I got out of public health, and it's largely because it was too political. I saw people get promoted and appointed to positions that were questionable choices. Exhibit A:
Joseph Ladapo, MD, PhD, and Ryan Cole, MD, spread disinformation about COVID-19. Now they're in prominent public health positions.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) appointed Ladapo to the position of state Surgeon General on Tuesday, and commissioners of Idaho's largest county appointed Cole to its health board last week.
Ladapo has been known for his Wall Street Journal op-eds questioning COVID vaccines, masks, lockdowns, and more, while Cole is known for disparaging COVID vaccines and for not getting vaccinated himself.
As Florida Surgeon General, Ladapo will oversee the state's department of health. According to the Miami Herald, when asked whether Florida should be promoting vaccination, Ladapo said it "should be promoting good health, and vaccination isn't the only path for that. It's been treated almost like a religion, and that's just senseless."
Cole was appointed to the health board of Idaho's Ada County, where Boise is located, after it had let go another member over their support for pandemic restrictions, according to the Washington Post. That board member had held the position for 15 years and was a former president of the American Academy of Family Physicians.
Many wanted an epidemiologist endorsed by the Idaho Medical Association to take the seat, but Ada County Commissioners gave the job to Cole for his "outsider" perspective and his willingness to question medical norms, the Post reported.
'Disinfo Docs' Land Public Health Jobs; Pediatrician Faces School Board Ouster
This past week in healthcare investigations
Jan
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In germany a couple of days ago a man was denied Service in a Gas Station without a mask. He went home, got a gun and shot the 20 year old attendend that refused to serve him in the head. And now the anti-mask and anti-vaccine Chat groups are celebrating this as the beginning of the resistance and comparing him to Stauffenberg.
Edit: but those guys are really a fringe group over here, but they are getting more radical