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I was trying to google this with no luck and thought I'd ask the educated hive mind here:

At what point does Biden's vaccination mandate for employers come into effect? My workplace has more than 100 employees, but I've heard zip from management.
 
Bull Shannon said:
I was trying to google this with no luck and thought I'd ask the educated hive mind here:

At what point does Biden's vaccination mandate for employers come into effect? My workplace has more than 100 employees, but I've heard zip from management.
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Everything goes into effect November 22, 2021 for federal employees and federal contractors--as in people must be fully vaccinated by this date. I work for a health care company and though I see no patients, I am considered "customer facing" because I generate data for large employers. My work required us to be vaccinated by October 1.

I would probably aim for November 22 which is when they are saying the federal mandate will be put in place.

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RenegadeMonster said:
www.cnn.com

Man accused of killing his pharmacist brother wanted to confront him for administering the Covid-19 vaccine, court documents say

A Maryland man accused of killing his pharmacist brother, his sister-in-law and an 83-year-old woman told his mother he wanted to "confront" his brother over "him administering COVID vaccines," according to charging documents obtained from Howard County District Court.
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Killed his brother for administering Covid-19 vaccines.

What has the world come too.
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Jesus, community pharmacists have enough to worry about, now they’ve got this too? Yet another reason I will only work hospital.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
www.cnn.com

Analysis: Someone needs to remind Greg Abbott he is a conservative

On Monday, a governor issued an executive order that banned every entity in his state -- including private businesses -- from requiring anyone to have the Covid-19 vaccine in order to return to work or keep their job.
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Articles like this suck because it’s really only about demonizing the other side rather then examining their position. It’s obvious that it’s not hypocritical for the governor to have this stance. He thinks that medical rights are more important than the rights of an employer.
 
Dtknuckles said:
Articles like this suck because it’s really only about demonizing the other side rather then examining their position. It’s obvious that it’s not hypocritical for the governor to have this stance. He thinks that medical rights are more important than the rights of an employer.
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To put it another way, he thinks the rights of the individual outweigh the rights of the collective, except for the individual rights of women, which I would argue is hypocritical to the extreme but wasn't brought up in that article.
 
Dtknuckles said:
Articles like this suck because it’s really only about demonizing the other side rather then examining their position. It’s obvious that it’s not hypocritical for the governor to have this stance. He thinks that medical rights are more important than the rights of an employer.
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The traditional republican stance is that this is still a huge over-reach. I mean, that's been a republican mainstay argument since like, before Roe V Wade and one of the stated reasons for defunding Planned Parenthood -- "no tax dollars for abortions!" etc. There are a lot of choice words for Abbott and hypocrite is absolutely one of the many fitting ones, I think.
 
Dtknuckles said:
Articles like this suck because it’s really only about demonizing the other side rather then examining their position. It’s obvious that it’s not hypocritical for the governor to have this stance. He thinks that medical rights are more important than the rights of an employer.
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It contains an outright basic arithmetic error as well which really erodes credibility for me.

from tfa:
Multiplying two negative numbers doesn't get you a positive number.
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Um, actually, yeah, it does, sooooo I guess you mean summing?
 
yukbon said:
The traditional republican stance is that this is still a huge over-reach. I mean, that's been a republican mainstay argument since like, before Roe V Wade and one of the stated reasons for defunding Planned Parenthood -- "no tax dollars for abortions!" etc. There are a lot of choice words for Abbott and hypocrite is absolutely one of the many fitting ones, I think.
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Although I don’t agree with the pro life stance I don’t think that it’s all that hypocritical to have pro life and anti vaccine mandates. They just like to carve out certain exceptions that I don’t agree with.
 
Dtknuckles said:
Although I don’t agree with the pro life stance I don’t think that it’s all that hypocritical to have pro life and anti vaccine mandates. They just like to carve out certain exceptions that I don’t agree with.
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I'm not even trying to juxtapose the morality or ethics of either stance or contrast them; the government reaching in and telling you "you must provide insurance/health care for this condition" has been demonized as a prime example of government overreach and they have used exactly that as an excuse against laws protecting that coverage and as an excuse to cut funding for anyone providing such care. But now this isn't a prime and identical example of that same over-reach? It's not even about whether you think abortion is acceptable or ethical or legal or whatever, this is selectively defining the same words differently just for the sheer cravenness of it.
 
yukbon said:
I'm not even trying to juxtapose the morality or ethics of either stance or contrast them; the government reaching in and telling you "you must provide insurance/health care for this condition" has been demonized as a prime example of government overreach and they have used exactly that as an excuse against laws protecting that coverage and as an excuse to cut funding for anyone providing such care. But now this isn't a prime and identical example of that same over-reach? It's not even about whether you think abortion is acceptable or ethical or legal or whatever, this is selectively defining the same words differently just for the sheer cravenness of it.
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In both areas it is having government get involved, but the situations are different. What conservatives are say by taking this stance is that in some situations it ok to have government control in one situation but not in the other. They have their reasons why. I disagree with them, but I don’t think it’s hypocritical to have the stance that they do.

Edit: hypocritical would be to be pro life but force your mistress to get an abortion.
 
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Wife and I just got exposure notifications on our phones today. Been nearly two weeks since the exposure, according to the app, and neither of us have symptoms, but I guess we should get tested.
 
oldschoolkirby said:
Wife and I just got exposure notifications on our phones today. Been nearly two weeks since the exposure, according to the app, and neither of us have symptoms, but I guess we should get tested.
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Last I heard, if you're vaxxed and don't have any symptoms after 5 days, you're alright. Doesn't hurt to make sure though.
 
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