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ayayrawn said:
Liberals will dump on the deep south and then wonder why they have no interest in their party.

These places are like this because they're among the most impoverished and exploited.
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As someone who lived in Alabama while I was in school there my wife and I made 35,000 dollars between the two of us one year and we still had to pay in to the state on our income taxes. How is that right? They are impoverished because the heaviest burden is placed on the people who can least afford it. They continually vote against their own interests because gay marriage and abortion are bad. I know that is an oversimplification but it isn't to far off. I have been to every southern state and lived in quite a few of them so I am pretty cognizant of the way things are down here.
 
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In terms of election day being made a federal holiday...I also kind of wonder if that were to come to pass and people were actually given the day off from work, how many people would be like, "wait I actually get a day off for once, I'm not going to spend it standing in line for 8 hours to vote when I could go do something fun instead."

I'm not advocating for that as a reason against it, but maybe I'm just feeling cynical at the moment.
 
mdmost said:
Maybe China isn't thrilled at the prospect of more tariffs.

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I think there are a couple of things at play here.

1. Outside influences are just fucking with shit. They don’t necessarily care who wins as much as sowing chaos.

2. Is it possible that Harris’s systems are more protected because she is actually in the administration and her communication network is more of national security? Meaning Trump and Vance are just more open to this kind of stuff not necessarily a better target.

3. Trump and Vance seem to lack in certain areas of intelligence/common sense. Might they just have done stupid stuff with their devices?
 
Nee Lewman said:
I think there are a couple of things at play here.

1. Outside influences are just fucking with shit. They don’t necessarily care who wins as much as sowing chaos.

2. Is it possible that Harris’s systems are more protected because she is actually in the administration and her communication network is more of national security? Meaning Trump and Vance are just more open to this kind of stuff not necessarily a better target.

3. Trump and Vance seem to lack in certain areas of intelligence/common sense. Might they just have done stupid stuff with their devices?
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Trump used unsecured lines and phones all the time when he was in office before. The Situation Room book talked about it extensively and how it drove the intelligence people crazy because he simply wouldn't do the simple things he was told to do to keep everything secure. Because he's a fucking toddler.
 
mdmost said:
Trump used unsecured lines and phones all the time when he was in office before. The Situation Room book talked about it extensively and how it drove the intelligence people crazy because he simply wouldn't do the simple things he was told to do to keep everything secure. Because he's a fucking toddler.
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Well there we go then. Big believer in Occam’s Razor.
 
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