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I think whether Biden wins really boils down to who he picks as VP. If he picks a Tim Kaine as his VP, then they might as well mail it in. If he picks someone strong he has a chance.
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I think whether Biden wins really boils down to who he picks as VP. If he picks a Tim Kaine as his VP, then they might as well mail it in. If he picks someone strong he has a chance.
bloody hell. This is a bit of a scary read.
Jan
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That's why i think what goes under #flattenthecurve is so important. The more we can slow zhe spread down by measures the less overwhelmed the hospital system gets. We will have thousands of infections in basically every country but if we can stretchit over weeks and months hospitals will be able to deal with it. And we will have to protect the elderly and those with preexisting conditions. Christian Drosten, the virologist whose group developed the first corona test, told german media today that up to 25% ( 20-25% goes for people over eighty, but letality is still 7-8% for people over 70, 3% for 60-70 and up to 1.5% for people over 50) of infected patients in those groups might die, so those should really avoid going out into larger groups right now.
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TenderLovingKiller®
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This made me laugh. This will play well with a certain portion of the electorate. I don’t think that guy was gonna vote for anyone on the Democratic ticket anyhow.
Joe Biden confronted on gun control by auto plant worker - CNN Video
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was confronted by an auto plant worker in Michigan who accused him of wanting to confiscate guns from Americans.www.cnn.com
Yikes
Biden: "You're full of shit"
State of emergency in Massachusetts due to the coronavirus.
We got the notice at work that unless you absolutely need to be in the office, work from home.
So I'm going to be working from home for the forseeible future.
We got the notice at work that unless you absolutely need to be in the office, work from home.
So I'm going to be working from home for the forseeible future.
Biden said it to the man’s face. He didn’t tweet it. I don’t love it, but it’s not the end of the world either.
And Alabama
Meanwhile my father continues to give me glimpses into Republican Propaganda. She just shared this with me me on facebook.
TenderLovingKiller®
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CNN just called Joe Biden winning Michigan.
Dtknuckles
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I know he’s your father and all and I don’t really know what your relationship is like, but if this stuff bothers you maybe you should set some boundaries. This would bother me if it were my father.
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Only 55% of the vote for Michigan has been reported at this time. But Joe Biden is crushing it.
I suppose there is still the possibility of an upset, but it's not looking good at all for Bernie
I suppose there is still the possibility of an upset, but it's not looking good at all for Bernie
Oh, I have set boundaries. He keeps sending stuff like that. Mostly by text. Short of blocking his number there is nothing I can do.
KenKaniff
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so...you spread it?
Not as propaganda but rather to mock it.
Phaneronic
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I've spent the past couple days making peace with probably having to vote for Biden in November, that he's not as much of a loser as Bernie supporters would have me believe, and to be put off voting because of Biden is exactly what the people who got Trump elected want, that Bernie just didn't manage to connect with the people who he needed to this season, that Warren's not a "traitor" or whatever for not endorsing him immediately. I will happily vote for Biden come November.
Do I still get to be frustrated and disappointed?
Do I still get to be frustrated and disappointed?
jaycee
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If you don't think that Obama saying small town people clinging to guns and religion wasn't a giant fuck-up I don't know what to tell you. I get it. Biden sucks and your boy Bernie shit the bed but Obama nearly cost himself the nomination with that comment and I think it continues to haunt the democratic party and Joe Biden. The person that confronted Biden about guns likely got their narrative from the NRA in 2008 when they pounced on Obama's comments. It was significant and influenced if not directly caused a run on ammunition that lasted throughout Obama's first term. Maybe you were not a voter then so it didn't matter to you but it sure as hell mattered to blue collar workers and further polarized the country.
Someone who is more into weapons can help clarify that ammunition run timeline. Obama lost Pennsylvania in the '08 primary because of it.
From wikipedia entry on Obama '08 primary:
After Obama's win in Mississippi on March 11, 2008, the campaign turned its attention to Pennsylvania. Mid March polls by Rasmussen Reports,[155] Franklin & Marshall College Poll,[156] Quinnipiac University Polling Institute[157] and Public Policy Polling[158] had Obama trailing Clinton in Pennsylvania by 12 to 16 points. Dozens of campaign offices were opened around the state, including 8 in Philadelphia.[159] By the beginning of April, polls of Pennsylvanians showed Obama trailing Clinton by average of 5 points.[160]
Speaking about small-town Pennsylvania at a private April 6 fundraising event in Kentfield, CA, a small suburb of San Francisco located in neighboring Marin County, his remarks would be widely criticized after they were reported:
Hillary Clinton described the remarks as "elitist, out of touch, and frankly patronizing."[162] Noting he had not chosen his words well, Obama subsequently explained his remarks, "Lately there has been a little typical sort of political flare-up, because I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois, who are bitter."[163] Obama had addressed similar themes in a 2004 interview with Charlie Rose,[164] and his strategists countered that Bill Clinton had made similar comments in 1991.[165]
Just hours prior Obama's remarks in San Francisco, he spoke in Silicon Valley at another private event, and expressed a much more nuanced understanding of the second amendment and rural America. He stated,
That Obama's comments in San Francisco made wide media play but not the ones he spoke in Silicon Valley became a source of speculation about the media and its political coverage.[167]
On Friday, April 18, 2008, Obama spoke in Independence Park in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to a crowd of 35,000, the largest audience yet drawn during the campaign. The crowd was nearly twice what had been projected[168] and spilled over into nearby streets.[169] The next day, Obama conducted a whistle stop train tour from Philadelphia to Harrisburg, drawing a crowd of 6,000 at a stop in Wynnewood and 3,000 at a stop in Paoli.[170]
The last big event in the final week of the campaign was the April 16 debate on ABC-TV. Many pundits gave the edge to Hillary Clinton, though many were critical of moderators Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos.[171] A two-month-old controversy gained more exposure when Stephanopoulos questioned Obama during the debate about Obama's contacts with Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers.[172]
Polls during the debate week showed the momentum that had cut Clinton's lead by half had stalled. Despite being outspent by three to one,[173] Clinton would win the April 22 primary election with 54.6 percent of the vote, a solid nine-point margin over Obama's 45.4 percent.[174] Although Clinton remained behind in delegates, the press soon ran cover stories about Obama's apparent trouble connecting with less educated whites and Catholics.
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