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I guess I’m not sure what you mean by “centrism” then. I think of it as a branding label applied to a certain political program (roughly speaking, the political program espoused by the Biden campaign) that doesn’t really occupy the “center” of anything. It’s a highly small-c conservative and pro-capital program that is called “centrism” by people who either (a) are knowingly trying to mislabel it to make it sound more appealing to voters than it really should be or (b) are trying to convince themselves that their support for policies that tend to make them more materially comfortable, and their lack of support for policies that would help others but perhaps come at some cost to their own material comfort, is really grounded in high-minded concepts of neutrality, magnanimity and open-mindedness rather than cowardice, avarice and laziness.
You know I had to look it up and I’m not sure I support centrism - which while not right minded get rid of government conservative, is meant to to keep a certain social status quo in place. I’ll go back to using middle ground and compromise.
 

Face masks have become the new divide between republicans and democrats and it's only intensifying.

People who are republican tend to not believe in the science behind why you should wear a face mask, do not like the government telling them what to do and have a mistaken belief that being told to wear a face mask is unconstitutional. They will fight for their so called right to not wear one. They have been calling democrats "sheeple" for listening to the health experts and wearing one.
 

Face masks have become the new divide between republicans and democrats and it's only intensifying.

People who are republican tend to not believe in the science behind why you should wear a face mask, do not like the government telling them what to do and have a mistaken belief that being told to wear a face mask is unconstitutional. They will fight for their so called right to not wear one. They have been calling democrats "sheeple" for listening to the health experts and wearing one.

It's such an odd hill for them to die on.
 

Face masks have become the new divide between republicans and democrats and it's only intensifying.

People who are republican tend to not believe in the science behind why you should wear a face mask, do not like the government telling them what to do and have a mistaken belief that being told to wear a face mask is unconstitutional. They will fight for their so called right to not wear one. They have been calling democrats "sheeple" for listening to the health experts and wearing one.
For a good long while there, we as a society got very lucky that the anti-vaccination coalition didn’t map very well onto the basic partisan divides (including as it did a spicy melange of your anti-gummint conspiracy theory types, San Francisco wheat germ moms, et al). I was afraid for years that it would tip over into an outright culture war issue (no real mystery about which side would end up being home to the “scientists are wrong” team), at which point there was no question in my mind that people would be giving their kids measles to own the libz.

Well here we are now and it’s much worse than I feared
 

Face masks have become the new divide between republicans and democrats and it's only intensifying.

People who are republican tend to not believe in the science behind why you should wear a face mask, do not like the government telling them what to do and have a mistaken belief that being told to wear a face mask is unconstitutional. They will fight for their so called right to not wear one. They have been calling democrats "sheeple" for listening to the health experts and wearing one.

The face mask thing is weird for me. I went out to the shop earlier and was equipped with my mask, technically a cycling snood (UK - I was the only one with one on.). I’m aware that I’m not wearing it to protect myself because it’s not the proper type but the idea is to protect others. However, I haven’t left my house in a week, I know for a fact I’m not a risk to the public so what am I wearing the mask for?
 
The face mask thing is weird for me. I went out to the shop earlier and was equipped with my mask, technically a cycling snood (UK - I was the only one with one on.). I’m aware that I’m not wearing it to protect myself because it’s not the proper type but the idea is to protect others. However, I haven’t left my house in a week, I know for a fact I’m not a risk to the public so what am I wearing the mask for?
A couple of weeks ago I went to pick up a pizza, leaving my property for both the first time in a week and the first time since everyone started wearing them in NY. So I got halfway there before I realized I had forgotten my mask. I was the only person on line, and the only person I could see on the “Main Street” of my town, who didn’t have a mask on. I felt like a real dipshit and haven’t forgotten my mask again.

That’s why.
 
A couple of weeks ago I went to pick up a pizza, leaving my property for both the first time in a week and the first time since everyone started wearing them in NY. So I got halfway there before I realized I had forgotten my mask. I was the only person on line, and the only person I could see on the “Main Street” of my town, who didn’t have a mask on. I felt like a real dipshit and haven’t forgotten my mask again.

That’s why.

Oh no doubt, if it’s mandatory of course, you don’t really have a choice.
Where I am it’s only suggested if you are in a shop or crowded area, there is no mandate.
And tbh comparing NYC to a little village In Scotland really isn’t the same. If I was in London then I could see the comparison and you better believe I’d be walking around in a full on biohazard suit.
 
I think it's about forming the habit and normalizing it. You know you're not sick, but the guy who may be sick who sees you pass by his window may now be more likely to mask because that's what people do now. It also signals to others that you're aware of and committed to stopping transmission. It's hot and sweaty and uncomfortable and unnatural, so the more we can adapt to best practices and learn not to touch our faces while it's still quasi-optional, the better.
Yes, thank you for explaining it better than me. Looking back I see that my little story could have been read to mean that the “why” was “so you won’t feel like a dipshit” when what I meant was “so you can help us dipshits act like we’re supposed to.”
 
It's not hard hit blue states that are in financial trouble due to COVID-19. States like Ohio are as well.


Cuts include:
  • $210 million from Medicaid
  • $300 million from K12 schools
  • $55 million from other education budget items
  • $110 million from higher ed
  • $100 million from all other agencies

Let's make huge cuts to Education and Medicaid to try to balance the budget.
 
“Of all the lies politicians tell, the notion that progress can only happen if we come together as moral and political equals is possibly our favorite. It is the lie we most want to be true because it is the lie that brings the rest of the lies we tell ourselves about our country and our history into coherence.”

 
It's not hard hit blue states that are in financial trouble due to COVID-19. States like Ohio are as well.


Cuts include:
  • $210 million from Medicaid
  • $300 million from K12 schools
  • $55 million from other education budget items
  • $110 million from higher ed
  • $100 million from all other agencies

Let's make huge cuts to Education and Medicaid to try to balance the budget.
I've supported just about everything DeWine has done up to this point, but this is a disastrous decision.
 
“Of all the lies politicians tell, the notion that progress can only happen if we come together as moral and political equals is possibly our favorite. It is the lie we most want to be true because it is the lie that brings the rest of the lies we tell ourselves about our country and our history into coherence.”


Thanks for sharing that article. It was a great read.
 
Trump has now taken to calling us "warriors" and compared this to Pearl Harbor. Hmmmm.......wonder what FDR would have done with a two month warning.
I’m not the first to point this out but what makes the “warrior” thing particularly crazy-making is that, metaphorically speaking, by going out in public when you don’t need to you’re fighting for the other side.
 
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