They’ll just now be convinced that Pence is part of the deep state. Unless it’s trump it literally doesn’t matter. Fuck Pence.
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TenderLovingKiller®
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I know there is A LOT of of competition in the Senate but Ron Johnson might be King Dip Shit.
This dumb ass just killed Hawley-Sanders $1,200 stimulus check proposal citing the motherfucking Deficit. What an asshole.
This dumb ass just killed Hawley-Sanders $1,200 stimulus check proposal citing the motherfucking Deficit. What an asshole.
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Twentytwo
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A rising tide lifts alll boats right? Paul, McConnell, Johnson and Blackburn are probably my most disliked. Republicans talking about the budget deficits these days is real rich. I always love to hear people say what works for regular people when they are worth 10 million dollars and they have free healthcare.
Dtknuckles
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This isn't capitalism. This isn't what Adam Smith envisioned with his invisible hand. In fact, both Marx and Smith were huge critics of financiers and the rentier class--those people that generated their income passively through owning a resource that they rent out whether it be in monthly rent or through loan interest. Both warned against giving the financiers power to shape the economy because of the very issues we are dealing with right now.
Oh, it gets better than that:
According to the New Food Economy, Amazon ranks high on the list of employers with massive numbers of employees enrolled in SNAP (the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, otherwise known as food stamps). In Ohio, around one in 10 Amazon employees uses SNAP; in Pennsylvania, about one in nine. In Arizona, nearly one in three Amazon employees is enrolled in the food stamp program.
Later this year, Amazon will start accepting food stamps for online grocery orders, from which it stands to benefit enormously as one of the nation’s top retailers. That means the company will be the recipient of government assistance (in the form of tax breaks and incentives) while its own workers are forced to rely upon that same program to survive.
A large number of Amazon workers rely on food stamps for assistance
The latest troubling revelation regarding the online retail giant's working conditions.archive.thinkprogress.org
So Amazon workers are on food stamps and Amazon accepts food stamps so he not only doesn't pay his workers a living wage, but also rakes in government dollars by accepting the very food stamps that his workers rely on.
TenderLovingKiller®
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I know this goes without saying but the POTUS is a nutter. 31 more days.
Tyr
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In an update to this ^ story comes this absolutely chilling article.Holy hell, check out this wild statement from Putin:
“If there was such a desire, it would have been done,” Putin said with a chuckle.
Putin denies involvement in poisoning of Kremlin foe Navalny
MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday rejected allegations that the Kremlin was behind the poisoning of his top political foe, opposition leader Alexei Navalny, and accused U.S. intelligence agencies of fomenting the claims even as he held out hope for better ties with Washingtoapnews.com
I know it’s not directly tied to US politics (as per the thread title) but really, world politics are US politics.
Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny dupes spy into revealing how he was poisoned — CNN
A Russian agent sent to tail Alexey Navalny has revealed how a lethal toxin was secreted in the underpants of the opposition leader. He thought it was an official debriefing, but he was talking to Navalny himself.
apple.news
Bellingcat, CNN, and Navalny staged a set up operation worthy of a John Le Carre novel. In today’s world of shock politics I doubt this information will even register on the public scale. But it is absolutely horrifying.
Joe Mac
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In an update to this ^ story comes this absolutely chilling article.
Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny dupes spy into revealing how he was poisoned — CNN
A Russian agent sent to tail Alexey Navalny has revealed how a lethal toxin was secreted in the underpants of the opposition leader. He thought it was an official debriefing, but he was talking to Navalny himself.
Bellingcat, CNN, and Navalny staged a set up operation worthy of a John Le Carre novel. In today’s world of shock politics I doubt this information will even register on the public scale. But it is absolutely horrifying.
Is it wrong that I’m both horrified and also kind of resigned to the fact that it’s Russia and that’s what they do?
Dtknuckles
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In an update to this ^ story comes this absolutely chilling article.
Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny dupes spy into revealing how he was poisoned — CNN
A Russian agent sent to tail Alexey Navalny has revealed how a lethal toxin was secreted in the underpants of the opposition leader. He thought it was an official debriefing, but he was talking to Navalny himself.
Bellingcat, CNN, and Navalny staged a set up operation worthy of a John Le Carre novel. In today’s world of shock politics I doubt this information will even register on the public scale. But it is absolutely horrifying.
After reading this the thought occurred to me, why put so much effort into cleaning this up? What are they risking in getting discovered? There never seems to be any force that can hold people in power accountable.
Dtknuckles
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I mean this has been the way Russian politics operates since what...their revolution? And probably before then.
bfly
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where did the news story originate? I'm interested in reading but it's the Apple News link instead of the source.In an update to this ^ story comes this absolutely chilling article.
Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny dupes spy into revealing how he was poisoned — CNN
A Russian agent sent to tail Alexey Navalny has revealed how a lethal toxin was secreted in the underpants of the opposition leader. He thought it was an official debriefing, but he was talking to Navalny himself.
Bellingcat, CNN, and Navalny staged a set up operation worthy of a John Le Carre novel. In today’s world of shock politics I doubt this information will even register on the public scale. But it is absolutely horrifying.
**nvm, I know how to google.
Tyr
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I gotchu
Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny dupes spy into revealing how he was poisoned
A Russian agent sent to tail Alexey Navalny has revealed how a lethal toxin was secreted in the underpants of the opposition leader. He thought it was an official debriefing, but he was talking to Navalny himself.
Tyr
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I mean, yes and no. The biggest issue I see is this is exactly why Putin doesn't really mind saying "we would have just finished the job if it was us" (obvious paraphrasing) because most of the world is resigned to that fact.
True, which is how it has become normalized. The thing to remember, and I always hesitate to post things such as this on boards that are housed/server stored in the US, this is also what we have been doing since time immemorable, as well. All the alphabet agencies in the majority of the first world countries have been playing this game, and carrying out these types of operations in secret for decades.
Its just always a shock when it is such a blatant and brazen thing.
dhodo
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Really? What political opponents has our government assassinated, or tried to, in the last 40 years? Genuinely curious if it is something I'm forgetting or unaware of. The only relatively modern incidents I can think of is all the FBI's agenda against the BPP, like Fred Hampton, for example.
Tyr
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Well, our alphabet agencies (note: I’m not mentioning the one that I am directly referring to) have a storied history with direct assassination attempts (Cuba, Castro, the declassified operation northwood) but in the last 20-30 years we’ve taken a systematic approach to supporting the deposing or overthrowing of political opponents in an indirect manner (Ghadaffi, Omar, etc).
However, if we want to list specific and direct attempts there is the declassified assassination attempt of Shia cleric Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah. The alphabet Director even admitted to bypassing presidential approval to get around the executive order forbidding political assassination.
There’s also the rendition and torture of Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr in Italy in 2003 of which the head of the agencies Milan office received an 8 year prison sentence (and 23 other operatives received lesser sentences.
There’s the car bombing of Chilean dissident Orlando Letelier that was carried out on our own soil in DC. Declassified documents show the Chilean intelligence minister was, at the time of the killing, on the alphabet payroll.
I mean the list of direct attempts in the past 30-40 years is long as hell. Not to mention the ones we subcontract to foreign agencies to do for us.
dhodo
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I guess I misunderstood your initial post. I don't see those as being similar to the Russian case. I was looking for assassinations of domestic political opponents/leaders within our country as is the case with Navalny and Fred Hampton is another good example. I know there are countless examples where we have interfered in the politics of other countries, which I agree is commonplace in first world countries, but very different in my opinion. Not to say one is worse than another.
Navalny would be more like Trump assassinating Biden or Bernie or something, no? Hard to draw a direct analogy since our political landscape is still quite different. I don't think that has been normalized most places.
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