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Twentytwo said:
He’s a horrible human being. It has a veto proof majority but he’s just an asshole.

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Trump calls Covid relief bill unsuitable and demands Congress add bigger stimulus payments

President Trump, in a stunning tweet, called the $900 billion Covid relief bill passed by Congress an unsuitable "disgrace."
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I agree about the horrible human being part but If he can somehow get his callow feckless party to go for more stimulus I would be all for it. I am not holding my breath but $2,000 would be better than $600.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I agree about the horrible human being part but If he can somehow get his callow feckless party to go for more stimulus I would be all for it. I am not holding my breath but $2,000 would be better than $600.
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I don’t know a person on the planet who wouldn’t want $2000 but it has no chance of going anywhere in either chamber. Trump is just wasting people’s times. Maybe if we all put an LLC beside our name we could get that $2000.
 
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Twentytwo said:
I don’t know a person on the planet who wouldn’t want $2000 but it has no chance of going anywhere in either chamber. Trump is just wasting people’s times. Maybe if we all put an LLC besides our name we could get that $2000.
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Well, I don’t know about the Senate, but Pelosi has already said the The Lower chamber would take up the $2k...

...which is a great move as it puts pressure on Mitch and the GA Senators to either support the additional stimulus or be the reason that every American (and Georgian) is out an additional $1,400.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
Well, I don’t know about the Senate, but Pelosi has already said the The Lower chamber would take up the $2k...

...which is a great move as it puts pressure on Mitch and the GA Senators to either support the additional stimulus or be the reason that every American (and Georgian) is out an additional $1,400.
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I want to think this would work, but I'm hard pressed to think any republican voters would care that their representatives boned them out of 1400 dollars.
 
After a person I argue with in the internet expressed some outrage over all the seeming no related stuff in this stimulus bill I came to a realization. All these various large pieces of aide are just ways to distribute capital that in turn support various structures and institutions, private companies, public services, markets, and families. All of these things need to be stabilized through this time. We all depend on these things and need them to be back to normal as soon as possible.

His outrage was why isn’t all this foreign aide going to the American people. I pointed out that there were a lot of Asian countries in it. Do we want China to provide the stabilization in that area? Egypt and Sudan? Stable gas prices. The Kennedy Center and research on fallen trees. That money goes to people’s salaries, educational programs, and protecting assets from natural disaster. My whole argument was that we actually see benefits from these programs and maybe his outrage about it shouldn’t be so extreme.

I will say a couple of things though. There are a lot of holes in my knowledge about these things. Yes there probably is a lot of pork and waste in those aide packages. Yes $600 is not the solution to the problem for families.
 
Dtknuckles said:
After a person I argue with in the internet expressed some outrage over all the seeming no related stuff in this stimulus bill I came to a realization. All these various large pieces of aide are just ways to distribute capital that in turn support various structures and institutions, private companies, public services, markets, and families. All of these things need to be stabilized through this time. We all depend on these things and need them to be back to normal as soon as possible.

His outrage was why isn’t all this foreign aide going to the American people. I pointed out that there were a lot of Asian countries in it. Do we want China to provide the stabilization in that area? Egypt and Sudan? Stable gas prices. The Kennedy Center and research on fallen trees. That money goes to people’s salaries, educational programs, and protecting assets from natural disaster. My whole argument was that we actually see benefits from these programs and maybe his outrage about it shouldn’t be so extreme.

I will say a couple of things though. There are a lot of holes in my knowledge about these things. Yes there probably is a lot of pork and waste in those aide packages. Yes $600 is not the solution to the problem for families.
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Also, in cold macro economic terms it is less expensive overall to have a (relatively) stable world than an unstable one. The economy is global. The amount the US spends on Pork and Foreign Aid is a pittance compared on what is spent on the Military.
 
If Republicans haven't figured out yet that Trump is just using them, along with all the American people, they all need to leave office. They collectively swore blind faith in following every win from this ass-hat, now, that the ass-hat just keeps pushing the line further and further you have half who are scared shitless of losing HIS base and the other half hiding in hopes of not being noticed.

Republicans, Trump does not care about the party, you and or the people of this country.

.........now I'm going to go watch more Madelorian finally reaction and get in a good mood :)
 
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