yukbon
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I love that the brief basically says "there's no right to privacy, so fuck your abortion rights" and people got them panties twisted because the brief is leaked. I thought there wasn't any priva-see guyzzz
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Sen. Collins calls police over abortion rights message written outside her Maine home
Republican Sen. Susan Collins called the police over the weekend after an abortion rights message was written on a sidewalk outside her Maine home.
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Calling the police over sidewalk chalk and a message saying vote yes on the bill to legalize abortion rights?
Also, Trump's former White House Press Secretary said the Biden's Press Secretary violated federal law over the weekend for refusing to denounce protesters outside of SCOTUS justices houses and telling them to go home.
She's like statute blah blah blah says it's a federal offense to influence a judge and that's exactly what the protesters are doing and the Biden Administration doing by now recalling them on an interview with Fox News.
Yup, the same Trump White House Press Secretary who pushed the big lie and election fraud conspiracies. But those aren't mentioned and she's acting like refusing to recall the protesters is the biggest scandal of the century for the white house and a violation of federal law.
Joe Mac
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And we continue to be in thrall to this set of utter bastards.
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After 30 Years of Turning Abortion Clinics Into War Zones, Now You Want “Civility”? — Slate
The protests outside Supreme Court justices' homes are nothing compared with the tactics anti-abortion activists have employed for years.
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Senate blocks bill to codify right to abortion — The Washington Post
The Women’s Health Protection Act is expected to fail, but Democrats say the vote is about mobilizing voters, not passing legislation.
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No surprise here. Let's keep sending it through to them from the house until it gets passed, stop everything else.
And fuck Joe Manchin who opposes the bill because he supports preserving the "status quo".
John Oliver on this topic. Good watch.
Very nervous about this. I think it's one step closer to WWIII
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Finland's president and prime minister announced their support for joining NATO on Thursday, moving the Nordic nation which shares an 800-mile border with Russia one step closer to membership of the US-led military alliance. The Kremlin has responded by saying the move would be a threat to Russia.
The statement of support for NATO from President Sauli Niinisto and Prime Minister Sanna Marin had been expected, after the Finnish government recently submitted a report on national security to the country's parliament which outlined the path to joining the alliance as one of Finland's options.
Finland's leaders announce support for NATO membership, moving nation closer to joining alliance | CNN
Finnish President Sauli Niinistö has given his public support for the Nordic country joining NATO -- a symbolic move that could bring an end to its decades-long ambivalence about membership of the military alliance.
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Finland's president and prime minister announced their support for joining NATO on Thursday, moving the Nordic nation which shares an 800-mile border with Russia one step closer to membership of the US-led military alliance. The Kremlin has responded by saying the move would be a threat to Russia.
The statement of support for NATO from President Sauli Niinisto and Prime Minister Sanna Marin had been expected, after the Finnish government recently submitted a report on national security to the country's parliament which outlined the path to joining the alliance as one of Finland's options.
The democrats failure to pass the preliminary vote through the senate to protect abortion rights yesterday shows that they are willfully unprepared and helpless to do anything to stop the coming ruling.
They don't have the same vigor that Republicans have when it comes to abortion. Protecting abortion rights for sure is not a generational battle that the democrats have been working towards for 50 years like the republicans have been to dismantle it.
And as Joe Manchin's vote indicates, protecting abortion rights is not something they really care about. He will not vote to protect them. And rather than side with republicans to over turn them he a copping out by saying he stands for preserving the "status quo". In other words, handing the rights back to the states is fine by his book.
We are now at the point where even if we wanted to make this a generational battle for democrats, pull all stops including abolishing the filibuster we are still helpless to pass this bill because we don't even have enough votes within the party to pass the senate.
They don't have the same vigor that Republicans have when it comes to abortion. Protecting abortion rights for sure is not a generational battle that the democrats have been working towards for 50 years like the republicans have been to dismantle it.
And as Joe Manchin's vote indicates, protecting abortion rights is not something they really care about. He will not vote to protect them. And rather than side with republicans to over turn them he a copping out by saying he stands for preserving the "status quo". In other words, handing the rights back to the states is fine by his book.
We are now at the point where even if we wanted to make this a generational battle for democrats, pull all stops including abolishing the filibuster we are still helpless to pass this bill because we don't even have enough votes within the party to pass the senate.
Melt Face Molly Drop
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I thought they needed 60 votes to pass, so they wouldn't have been close anyway unless the filibuster was eliminated
Hemotep
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Even with the filibuster eliminated it wouldn't have passed. While on the one hand, Manchin, Collins, and Murkowski are scumbags, they did say they'd vote to codify just not this bill which they thought expanded it. It's a BS excuse, but Schumer should have called them on it and had the simple codification bill up too. Force them to vote and then force them to confront the filibuster. My guess is they wouldn't have voted to codify and this move gave them cover.
I'm all as doom and gloom about this as anyone and think Dems, on the whole, are bad at messaging at the very least. I don't know what they could really do here in this moment outside of what they did - this was baked from when Sara Gideon and Cal Cunningham and Theresa Greenfield couldn't win their races in vulnerable races and Joe Manchin became an essential vote to do anything. I would imagine this is a pretty dramatically different discussion if even two of those folks win their seats in terms of filibuster abolishment/reform and passing what I consider to be essential laws in this environment.
However, I am happy to blame this on the Democrats of Christmas past: holding solid trifectas doing nothing about these issues, not putting up any kind of real fight in red districts where Republicans were chipping away at blue districts, not responding appropriately to their constituencies in easily winnable races/states and losing them, etc. This is very much the chickens coming home to roost and it's really effing depressing.
However, I am happy to blame this on the Democrats of Christmas past: holding solid trifectas doing nothing about these issues, not putting up any kind of real fight in red districts where Republicans were chipping away at blue districts, not responding appropriately to their constituencies in easily winnable races/states and losing them, etc. This is very much the chickens coming home to roost and it's really effing depressing.
They only need 50 votes to pass with the the tie breaker being the Vice President. The 60 votes come from the required number of votes to override the filibuster under current senate rules. Thus the requirement to eliminated the filibuster would be needed.
For the most part, Democrats want the same things Republicans want. They just go about accomplishing it by lack of action.
The democrats policy to win elections over the last 40 years is to just do nothing. Demographics based on population show that they will win the presidency and majority a little more than 50% of the time without spending money or creating a movement around an issue.
And this approach is failing them now.
The 5th Circuit’s Reinstatement of Texas’ Internet Censorship Law Could Break Social Media — Slate
No one knows what will happen when a state asserts the power to censor broad swaths of the web.
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The 5th Circuit just reinstated Taxes Internet Censorship Bill.
This Texas state law would make it illegal for social media companies to censor posts by users as conservatives feel big tech has a liberal bias and an agenda to censor conservative views. The law also takes it further and says social media companies can't add notices to posts such as "missinformation".
Under this law, any citizen as well as the Texas AG can sue social media companies for violating.
In other words, this law could be very devastating for Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other big players with more than 50 million users.
Expect this to be appealed all the way up to the SCOTUS. But if the conservative 5th circuit just reinstated this law, I don't expect much support from the SCOTUS. Violating corporations 1st amendment rights in the same of protecting conservative voices.
And as the article points out, there is no evidence of any agenda to silence conservative voices. They just labeled stuff as miss information during a public health emergency when absolute bull shit was posted, whether it be conspiracies, alternative facts and treatments.
yukbon
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Why are there no liberal bad-faith shills to troll the right, is my question. a Joe Rogan / Alex Jones type who's like "lots of people are saying Donald Trump's shrimp dick doesn't work unless he's thinking about Barrack Obama, I don't know if that's true but lots of people are saying it". Shit, someone going on air and calling it TrumpCare and encouraging people to sign up for the ACA. Quoting the bible's anti-usury passages and pushing for student debt forgiveness. That blackmailing thing that John Oliver did? Do that evvvvvery week and name names. Why is it only conservative dickheads who troll for their terrble causes, where are my chaotic good trolls.
The 5th Circuit’s Reinstatement of Texas’ Internet Censorship Law Could Break Social Media — Slate
No one knows what will happen when a state asserts the power to censor broad swaths of the web.
The 5th Circuit just reinstated Taxes Internet Censorship Bill.
This Texas state law would make it illegal for social media companies to censor posts by users as conservatives feel big tech has a liberal bias and an agenda to censor conservative views. The law also takes it further and says social media companies can't add notices to posts such as "missinformation".
Under this law, any citizen as well as the Texas AG can sue social media companies for violating.
In other words, this law could be very devastating for Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other big players with more than 50 million users.
Expect this to be appealed all the way up to the SCOTUS. But if the conservative 5th circuit just reinstated this law, I don't expect much support from the SCOTUS. Violating corporations 1st amendment rights in the same of protecting conservative voices.
And as the article points out, there is no evidence of any agenda to silence conservative voices. They just labeled stuff as miss information during a public health emergency when absolute bull shit was posted, whether it be conspiracies, alternative facts and treatments.
Hemotep
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I know they won't cause they're greedy, but if I was the CEO of those companies I'd just stop doing service in Texas. Cause F'em, that's why.The 5th Circuit’s Reinstatement of Texas’ Internet Censorship Law Could Break Social Media — Slate
No one knows what will happen when a state asserts the power to censor broad swaths of the web.
The 5th Circuit just reinstated Taxes Internet Censorship Bill.
This Texas state law would make it illegal for social media companies to censor posts by users as conservatives feel big tech has a liberal bias and an agenda to censor conservative views. The law also takes it further and says social media companies can't add notices to posts such as "missinformation".
Under this law, any citizen as well as the Texas AG can sue social media companies for violating.
In other words, this law could be very devastating for Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other big players with more than 50 million users.
Expect this to be appealed all the way up to the SCOTUS. But if the conservative 5th circuit just reinstated this law, I don't expect much support from the SCOTUS. Violating corporations 1st amendment rights in the same of protecting conservative voices.
And as the article points out, there is no evidence of any agenda to silence conservative voices. They just labeled stuff as miss information during a public health emergency when absolute bull shit was posted, whether it be conspiracies, alternative facts and treatments.
Is Texas paying for the plaintiffs legal fees? How exactly does this play out? I don’t exactly imagine big tech would let this slide that easily. Plus with dipshit Musk likely taking twitter private doesn’t this become pointless?The 5th Circuit’s Reinstatement of Texas’ Internet Censorship Law Could Break Social Media — Slate
No one knows what will happen when a state asserts the power to censor broad swaths of the web.
The 5th Circuit just reinstated Taxes Internet Censorship Bill.
This Texas state law would make it illegal for social media companies to censor posts by users as conservatives feel big tech has a liberal bias and an agenda to censor conservative views. The law also takes it further and says social media companies can't add notices to posts such as "missinformation".
Under this law, any citizen as well as the Texas AG can sue social media companies for violating.
In other words, this law could be very devastating for Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other big players with more than 50 million users.
Expect this to be appealed all the way up to the SCOTUS. But if the conservative 5th circuit just reinstated this law, I don't expect much support from the SCOTUS. Violating corporations 1st amendment rights in the same of protecting conservative voices.
And as the article points out, there is no evidence of any agenda to silence conservative voices. They just labeled stuff as miss information during a public health emergency when absolute bull shit was posted, whether it be conspiracies, alternative facts and treatments.
Vinyl&Kicks86
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Joe Mac
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The 5th Circuit’s Reinstatement of Texas’ Internet Censorship Law Could Break Social Media — Slate
No one knows what will happen when a state asserts the power to censor broad swaths of the web.
The 5th Circuit just reinstated Taxes Internet Censorship Bill.
This Texas state law would make it illegal for social media companies to censor posts by users as conservatives feel big tech has a liberal bias and an agenda to censor conservative views. The law also takes it further and says social media companies can't add notices to posts such as "missinformation".
Under this law, any citizen as well as the Texas AG can sue social media companies for violating.
In other words, this law could be very devastating for Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other big players with more than 50 million users.
Expect this to be appealed all the way up to the SCOTUS. But if the conservative 5th circuit just reinstated this law, I don't expect much support from the SCOTUS. Violating corporations 1st amendment rights in the same of protecting conservative voices.
And as the article points out, there is no evidence of any agenda to silence conservative voices. They just labeled stuff as miss information during a public health emergency when absolute bull shit was posted, whether it be conspiracies, alternative facts and treatments.
I think with this careering headlong into Europe trying to do completely the opposite you’re going to have social media being completely between a rock and a hard place, not that I have that much sympathy for them. Looking at it from a pure potential customer numbers basis I’d just block Texas IP addresses and no longer offer services there. If a good few more states follow suit it’s a more difficult decision.
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Dipshit Musk might be backing out of the Twitter Deal. It put it on hold citing "Bots". Says there are too many bots on the platform. But that sounds like a Bull Shit reason to me.
This announcement from Musk yesterday came after the 5th Circuits decision. Twitter stocks went into a free fall yesterday.